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I was looking through the GSL stuff and saw and interview with IdrA that had some interesting info that is not quite getting as much attention as I would expect. The important quotes are highlighted like this.
+ Show Spoiler [Idra] +IdrA: "I'm honored to have a spot in the GSL"![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/l10f/translations/idragslqual1.jpg) - How do you feel about making it through with all wins? ▲ I'm happy I made it to the tournament with defeating everyone. - You've been doing well in StarCraft II tournaments ▲ I got 2nd in IEM in Germany, and before that I won the King of Kings End of Beta Tournament. - You're still CJ player as far as I know, did you have any problems entering the league?
▲ I was in CJ, but I left already. My contract ends the 31st of this month, and since it's almost over, I joined GSL.- Have you decided a new team to join?
▲ I want to join a team not associated with KeSPA. I don't have a specific team yet.- You were Terran in SC1, why did you switch to Zerg? ▲ I thought about changing race in SC1 since Terran didn't fit me, and I felt that Zerg fit my style better than Protoss. That's why I chose Zerg. - What do you think is attractive about the Zerg race? ▲ I like playing games having good economy and large armies, and I think Zerg fits that description the best. - What do you think about the balance? ▲ It's difficult to defend early rushes as Zerg, but I think the balance is getting better after every patch. - Where are you living in Korea?
▲ I'm still in CJ house, but I'm leaving soon. I think I'll stay with a friend until I find a team.- Your goals and determination for this GSL ▲ I hope the Korean fans enjoy my games. I'm honored to have a spot in the GSL, and I think it's going to be fun, so look forward to it. + Show Spoiler [Original Article] +- 전승으로 예선을 통과한 소감은
▲ 모두 이기고 본선에 오르게 돼서 기쁘다.
- 일찍이 스타크래프트2 대회에 참가해 좋은 성적을 거두고 있는데
▲ 얼마 전 독일에서 열린 IEM에서는 2등을 차지했고, 그 전에는 팀리퀴드 대회나 베타 테스트 당시 해외 마지막 대회였던 킹 오브 킹에서도 우승을 했었다.
- 아직 CJ 선수인걸로 아는데, 대회 참가에는 문제가 없었나
▲ 나는 CJ 선수였지만, 이미 팀에 남아 있지 않다. 계약 기간은 이번 달 31일까지 남아 있는데, 막바지라 참여하게 됐다.
- 새롭게 합류할 팀은 정했는지
▲ KeSPA와 관련되지 않은 팀들로 생각 중이다. 아직 정확히 가겠다고 계획된 팀은 없다.
- 스타1 당시 테란이었는데, 저그로 종족을 바꾼 이유가 있나
▲ 스타1 당시에도 테란이 잘 안 맞는 것 같아서 종족을 바꿀 생각이었는데, 프로토스로도 해봤지만 저그가 더 체질에 맞는 것 같았다. 그래서 저그를 선택했다.
- 저그라는 종족의 매력이 뭐라고 생각하는지
▲ 저그만의 확장력과 풍부한 자원을 이용한 물량 게임을 좋아하고, 그런 것에 있어서 저그가 가장 알맞은 것 같았다.
- 종족 간 밸런스에 대해서는 어떻게 생각하나
▲ 아무래도 저그는 초반 러시를 수비하기 어려운 종족이라 헤매는 경향이 있었는데, 패치를 통해서 한 걸음씩 더 완벽한 밸런스에 다가서고 있는 것 같다고 생각된다.
- 요즘 국내에서의 생활은 어디서 하고 있나
▲ 아직은 CJ 숙소에 있지만 곧 나올 것이다. 다른 팀에 들어가기 전까지는 친구와 지낼 것 같다.
- 이번 GSL에 임하는 목표와 각오는
▲ 한국 팬들이 내 경기를 즐겨주면 좋겠다. GSL에서 한 자리를 차지하게 돼서 영광이고, 굉장히 재미있을 것 같으니까 팬 분들도 기대 많이 해주시면 좋겠다.
Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110203&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=Thanks l10f!
So will he be leaving Korea, or just signing with a new team like oGs that is not directly owned by KESPA?
This is pretty big news to me, what does everyone think of this move? I personally would love to see him come back stateside but I have a feeling he was meant for Korea :D!
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It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle.
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This is big news :O i guess he will still be staying in korea, perhaps join ogs or Prime?
Idra fighting!
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He's probably likely to go wherever the biggest tournaments are. At the moment, that's still Korea. (Right?  )
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Idra with a TLAF'Liquid tag would be so awesome!
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Idra get the fuck away form kespa. I hope he gets to keep his suave Cj jacket :/.
Yes i know i used sauve wrong
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Haha the interview is translated into korean, then translated back into english?
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hes just waiting for a proteam that has nothing to do with kespa
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He's just mad at Kespa for penalizing for verbal abuse, lol.
But I'm pretty curious what team he will be joining next.
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He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want.
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Why would he leave Korea now when there is GSL?
Good move because now he won't be controlled any way by Kespa/CJ (dunno if he ever was). And if he will get in a team like oGs or Prime, that training will be much more effective than just laddering games alone basically. If he joins oGs or Prime, i bet he'll get more 'famous' because of it. GOM's star2gether is pretty much everytime featuring one of the players from those clans, so i guess IdrA would be there more often too.
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On August 28 2010 22:19 Tabbris wrote:Idra get the fuck away form kespa. I hope he gets to keep his suave Cj jacket :/. Yes i know i used sauve wrong
I would say you used suave in quite a good way, agreed aswell on the CJ jacket
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On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want.
i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now.
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On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle.
They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team.
Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there.
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On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want. i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now.
Yeah and had his account suspended/locked a couple times, if I remember correctly..
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I think this is good for idra.. if he joined a team like Prime or oGs I think he would improve more as a player because there would be more good sc2 players to train with, whereas CJ is still mainly BW.
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so does he still play brood war or just sc2 now
i imagine every moment playing sc2 is counted as wasted time since he should be practicing bw during that time
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smart decision by IdrA, was kinda pointless to stay in CJ as long as they are still in BW and he was the only one
+ as people said if he performs well he will get good offers from teams
thinking ahead is a useful skil toi have
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On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there.
I thought they said they merged up in that article about it.
I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him
On August 28 2010 22:24 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want. i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now. Yeah and had his account suspended/locked a couple times, if I remember correctly..
More than a couple times.. try a lot of times.
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On August 28 2010 22:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
so does he still play brood war or just sc2 now
i imagine every moment playing sc2 is counted as wasted time since he should be practicing bw during that time
I'm pretty sure hes only been playing SC2 since beta
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Idra joining TL would be quite baller 
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Why doesn't someone ask him? I know he's on here....
HEY IDRA....What teams are you considering?
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On August 28 2010 22:24 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want. i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now. Yeah and had his account suspended/locked a couple times, if I remember correctly..
So has incontrol, even more... it's not a huge deal. EDIT: And Rekrul etc.
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On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him
Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first.
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Who cares if hes bm sometimes and hes account has been suspended a few times, were all adults here (most of us ) , and irl most of tl admins / TLAF members seem to get along with him..
Would be awesome if he joined Team Liquid, although i highly doubt it is going to happen though..
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On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:24 tyCe wrote:On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want. i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now. Yeah and had his account suspended/locked a couple times, if I remember correctly.. More than a couple times.. try a lot of times.
They're living together and practicing together during this GSL time, but its not really a merger, they're wearing the tl-ogs and ogs-tl tag sort of for fun from what i've heard but when it comes down to it, team liquid is a team, ogs is a team. if fnatic and eg practiced together and lived together for a big several weeks long tournament that doesn't mean they combine as far as i know lol.
He'd never join root anyways since root has no sponsors, idra is the top foreigner, draws in a huge market and fan base he will probably join either a korean nonkespa team or a large progaming organization, such as those organizations that have multiple progaming teams from CS to Fifa to SC to quake, etc.
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I could see SK taking on Idra, they obviously want to make a stand in the SC2 world and currently have 1 coach / 1 player.
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You know, I could imagine SK solely due to the fact that SK has more money than pretty much every org lol, and they're willing to take on one player teams such as rapha, the clearcut #1 quake player in the world. I'm sure it all depends on what teams offer IdrA, who'll want to be a salaried player so he can live in Korea and constantly go to these events like GSL.
Lets be honest, he's probably reading this thread and not planning on replying, or he'll reply with a simple, you're wrong, and give us no hints, since he doesnt owe the public any hints towards any signings lol.
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On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first.
But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol!
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i feel like Idra would end up in MyM, Maybe start up Media
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On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol!
I think Idra wouldn't care less about the other players, as long as the contract supports him well enough.
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On August 28 2010 22:43 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol! I think Idra wouldn't care less about the other players, as long as the contract supports him well enough.
Well you also want good pratice partners in a team. But i guess idra does fine without them
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It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. Idra has been living the life of a progamer for awhile. He'll probably want more than air fare and accommodations. He's definitely good enough for a salary, assuming there are SC2 teams that will pay it, I imagine he would want to wait for that.
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DO you think he left or got forced to leave CJ?
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On August 28 2010 22:31 Sanguinarius wrote:
TLAF'Liquid IdrA?
hope this never happens.
as much as the newguys worship idra hes not what i want to represent our precious TL.
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On August 28 2010 22:46 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:43 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol! I think Idra wouldn't care less about the other players, as long as the contract supports him well enough. Well you also want good pratice partners in a team. But i guess idra does fine without them
Of course it is always +++ to have good players in the team to practise with.
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On August 28 2010 22:48 Snowfield wrote:
DO you think he left or got forced to leave CJ?
Well he said his contract was ending so I doubt he's being forced to leave. At this point CJ is 100% a BW team and IdrA is 100% an SC2 player so I would imagine both sides figured the partnership was useless and they decided to part ways.
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Some of the TL people have had a lot of problems in the past with idra, very very small chance he would ever join liquid. They wont add someone they don't like just because they are good and wins a lot.
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WeMade SC2 together with NaDa, one can dream, right?
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On August 28 2010 22:28 DarkspearTribe wrote:Idra joining TL would be quite baller
Idra is too bm to be invited in Liquid lol.
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Good luck in the future with a new team, IdrA!
I hope to fly to IEM next year, to watch ya kill some terrans and buy ya a beer!
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On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol!
Inc just beat Machine and eliminated Nony at MLG...
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remember that IdrA to SKT thread LOL
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On August 28 2010 22:56 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol! Inc just beat Machine and eliminated Nony at MLG...
Oh snap. I got told -.-. Man Nony needs to step his game up! hes still my favorite player tho
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On August 28 2010 22:54 Avius wrote:
WeMade SC2 together with NaDa, one can dream, right?
That would be neat.
I imagine he'll be sticking with Korea teams as a first priority, though. If I were him, I'd want to know the language before trying to find another team, but it seems like few foreigners are interested in doing that 
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I don't see why any Korean team would want Idra in their house. Of course, he IS one of the best players, but he doesn't speak Korean so he wouldn't be able to discuss strategies which is a HUGE deal in the current stage of SC2 gameplay evolution IMO.
I'm really curious how this ends.
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How about a new team with the good players that left oGs and idra ?!.
Imagine that Tester, Cool and Idra solid lineup isnt it ? :D
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He's not gonna sign with oGs, they've already stated that they're not looking to get any foreign players right now
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On August 28 2010 23:03 Tazza wrote:
He's not gonna sign with oGs, they've already stated that they're not looking to get any foreign players right now
Except Nazgul, Grrr.., TLO and Jinro, right?!
On August 28 2010 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
I think the most important part of IdrA's team is that they need to be able to sponsor him to foreigner tournaments, since that's what he spends a lot of time doing, as well as provide for his food & lodging in Korea, obviously.
I want a vulture and you are right. He probably would want to join a team with some Starcraft 2 players, but a sponsored team. I hear MBC has some Starcraft 2 players on their team now~~
Will be interesting for sure.
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I think the most important part of IdrA's team is that they need to be able to sponsor him to foreigner tournaments, since that's what he spends a lot of time doing, as well as provide for his food & lodging in Korea, obviously.
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On August 28 2010 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
I think the most important part of IdrA's team is that they need to be able to sponsor him to foreigner tournaments, since that's what he spends a lot of time doing, as well as provide for his food & lodging in Korea, obviously.
If he lives in Korea he can provide that for himself. But the foreign tournaments might be an issue. Flying from Asia to Europe/NA for every non-GSL tournament would be pretty costly, which is why I can't see him really joining a team that isn't based in Korea.
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Grrr is the only one who joined oGs, the other ones are still in TLAF-Liquid`.
Grrr also speaks korean fluently and lived there for many years so he is no real foreigner for them anymore.
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On August 28 2010 22:58 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:56 sob3k wrote:On August 28 2010 22:41 Tabbris wrote:On August 28 2010 22:31 Grettin wrote:On August 28 2010 22:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 28 2010 22:24 ZlaSHeR wrote:On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle. They're living together temporarily and practicing together but they're not one team. Idra doesn't seem to want to leave Korea, if he signs with a foreigner team they won't force him to leave korea, and if he joins a korean non-kespa team then obviously he'll stay in korea. I'm fairly confident he won't be leaving there. I thought they said they merged up in that article about it. I would love to see him get on a team like .Root, but he's got all the options open to him Im pretty sure idra wont be joining any team like Root. The best team to join would be some of the big names like EG etc, if you would have to choose from 'foreign' team.. But 100% sure hes focusing on Korean teams first. But everyone besides machine pretty much suks ;/. I still love u incontrol! Inc just beat Machine and eliminated Nony at MLG... Oh snap. I got told -.-. Man Nony needs to step his game up! hes still my favorite player tho
Well at least you're man enough to respond to it. But I don't know how you can say they're bad when you probably haven't seen them play much. Inka just came 2nd at the greenforest lan, lz has 2-0'd everyone up until he faced CauthonLuck who is a top terran player, and LZ gets the least practice in TvT. InControl has been a solid player for a decade. I'd go on but I guess theres no point in saying it, EG is a solid team, their whole lineup can do well in any given tournament
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On August 28 2010 23:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 23:03 Tazza wrote:
He's not gonna sign with oGs, they've already stated that they're not looking to get any foreign players right now Except Nazgul, Grrr.., TLO and Jinro, right?! Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
I think the most important part of IdrA's team is that they need to be able to sponsor him to foreigner tournaments, since that's what he spends a lot of time doing, as well as provide for his food & lodging in Korea, obviously. I want a vulture and you are right. He probably would want to join a team with some Starcraft 2 players, but a sponsored team. I hear MBC has some Starcraft 2 players on their team now~~ Will be interesting for sure.
MBC has IrOn and thats it lol, no?
And once again, oGs and TL are not one team. they practice/live together doesn't mean they're one team, oGs can add players to their team, TL can add players to their team, but TLO Jinro and Nazgul are on teamliquid. Grrr... might be considered a foreigner but he defines what "oGs" stands for, which is the old generation starcraft player.
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Who is surprised about that. I saw that comming way ago. But it's obvious he will stay in korea and join ogs, prime or werra
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Keep the BM attitude, make more interest matches along the way^^
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Of course staying in a purely BW team like CJ is useless for Idra now.
Would be cool to see him join TL in Korea because I think he's totally qualified for it (probably needs to improve a little on his manner in public/broadcasted games though).
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No surprise after all
CJ is not having a Sc2 team atm, also there are no news about the new coach, and Idra is 100% dedicated to Sc2
If you notice, lately, Idra wasnt wearing his CJ Entus uniform in recent tourneys
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As far as i remember right, IrOn is leaving MBC and moving to sc2 fully. So no, there won't be any Sc2 proteam that currently is only focusing on bw.
his is significant in that he is the first active Korean BW progamer on a current proteam to publicly announce he will switch from BW to SC2. As a consequence, he has left the MBC team (due to the failure to negotiate a new contract based on his poor results).
Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146890
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he shouldn't join liquid or ogs imo, at least from a fan perspective. we need more clans with excellent players instead of one clan having all the good ones
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I think he should pull a BoxeR and form his own team ...
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I'm predicting IdrA joining oGs very soon :o
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I'm hoping for idra's sake that he'll get the chance to team up with nada since he have said that nada is his favorite sc player which would be kinda neat to see
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GryFfid0R.IdrA
You heard it from me first.
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On August 28 2010 23:26 heishe wrote:he shouldn't join liquid or ogs imo, at least from a fan perspective. we need more clans with excellent players instead of one clan having all the good ones
I'd rather have one foreigner team being competetive in korea rather than 3 separate ones getting raped constantly.
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so... i suppose he's gonna be staying at Artosis's place? yes? well in any case i'm sure he will be telling the community what he's gonna be doing when he's ready to tell us. no point staying at a team that doesn't accomodate SC2 player i suppose.
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seeing IdrA with TL will be nice!
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Its funny that people think he made that choice. his contract was over and they werent going to resign him. Im sure that if he could continue to be paid for playing starcraft, he would. Now he is essentially unemployed, and so few gaming communities pay their players.
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If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language.
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On August 28 2010 23:56 Sl4ktarN wrote:
GryFfid0R.IdrA
You heard it from me first.
that is such a terrible tag i would be embarrassed for whoever used it
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On August 29 2010 00:08 Darpa wrote:
Its funny that people think he made that choice. his contract was over and they werent going to resign him. Im sure that if he could continue to be paid for playing starcraft, he would. Now he is essentially unemployed, and so few gaming communities pay their players.
B-players gets paid shit anyways. its not like hes missing much
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On August 29 2010 00:14 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:08 Darpa wrote:
Its funny that people think he made that choice. his contract was over and they werent going to resign him. Im sure that if he could continue to be paid for playing starcraft, he would. Now he is essentially unemployed, and so few gaming communities pay their players. B-players gets paid shit anyways. its not like hes missing much
free place to live, play all day and food is not "paid shit", its not all about the salary
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grats to Idra on getting a spot in the GSL already, wondering which team he's going to join tho
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Pretty sure he wont leave korea- if you wanna be among the very top of sc2 you can't miss the GSL.
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On August 29 2010 00:12 Stegosaur wrote:
If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language.
Maybe I just don't understand the situation, but I can't see why someone would live in Korea and not learn Korean. Doesn't this put him at a severe disadvantage? Or is English just that common among SC progamers?
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On August 29 2010 00:30 Befree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:12 Stegosaur wrote:
If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language. Maybe I just don't understand the situation, but I can't see why someone would live in Korea and not learn Korean. Doesn't this put him at a severe disadvantage? Or is English just that common among SC progamers?
My guess is that Korean is actually a difficult language to learn, and that when you're following a strict schedule of 10-12 hours a day training, sleeping and eating, all week around, you're going to not have much time to focus on learning a new language as well?
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Where ever he goes he'll help out if they can speak english and/or put in the work hours with him.
Instantly became the hottest FA on the market for Foreign SC2 teams.
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On August 29 2010 00:14 tube wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 23:56 Sl4ktarN wrote:
GryFfid0R.IdrA
You heard it from me first. that is such a terrible tag i would be embarrassed for whoever used it
![[image loading]](http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/thats_the_joke.jpg)
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On August 29 2010 00:32 LionsFist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:30 Befree wrote:On August 29 2010 00:12 Stegosaur wrote:
If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language. Maybe I just don't understand the situation, but I can't see why someone would live in Korea and not learn Korean. Doesn't this put him at a severe disadvantage? Or is English just that common among SC progamers? My guess is that Korean is actually a difficult language to learn, and that when you're following a strict schedule of 10-12 hours a day training, sleeping and eating, all week around, you're going to not have much time to focus on learning a new language as well?
imho you always pick up a language kinda fast if you live there. but i dont know how much this applies to the asian languages which are very different from what we know.
i mean if you know basic latin you can pick up the basics of spanish,italian,french etc very fast. but korean or chinese etc (chinese is impossible for me. "ma" can mean horse,weed,mom and something else depending on how you say it.i gave up right there.) are a total different story.
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GSL 1st place prize - $85,000
IEM 1st place prize - $5,000
MLG 1st place prize - $2,500
He's obviously not going to leave Korea. The only place you can make any serious money as a full time pro gamer is in Korea. He would be crazy to leave now.
If IdrA is really in it for the long haul, he should definitely be making more of an effort to learn the language though.
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On August 29 2010 00:32 LionsFist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:30 Befree wrote:On August 29 2010 00:12 Stegosaur wrote:
If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language. Maybe I just don't understand the situation, but I can't see why someone would live in Korea and not learn Korean. Doesn't this put him at a severe disadvantage? Or is English just that common among SC progamers? My guess is that Korean is actually a difficult language to learn, and that when you're following a strict schedule of 10-12 hours a day training, sleeping and eating, all week around, you're going to not have much time to focus on learning a new language as well?
He said a while back he was actually taking Korean lessons but gave that up as it was taking alot of his time aswell as not helping him with his career as far as what Korean he was learning was all like "where is the bathroom" not "Go play X and do Y against him."
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who did idra beat to get into the gsl?
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Idra has friend(s)?
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YES!!!!! No more KeSpa for Idra, go where there's freedom and people who don't cancel epic showmatches.
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IdrA sticking it to KeSPA, I love it
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He should really try and learn Korean...
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leaving CJ was the right move imo, hes a full time sc2 player, so no point being full time on cj when they are still purely BW, and probably likely to stay that way for quite a while unless things change between kespa and blizzard, hope all goes well for him.
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This is interesting. I wonder if he left because there wasn't a chance of the contract getting renewed?
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Smart move. He's got a good shot at the top GSL money, he'd be dumb not to leave CJ and go after it.
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On August 28 2010 23:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 23:03 Tazza wrote:
He's not gonna sign with oGs, they've already stated that they're not looking to get any foreign players right now Except Nazgul, Grrr.., TLO and Jinro, right?! Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 23:05 Azarkon wrote:
I think the most important part of IdrA's team is that they need to be able to sponsor him to foreigner tournaments, since that's what he spends a lot of time doing, as well as provide for his food & lodging in Korea, obviously. I want a vulture and you are right. He probably would want to join a team with some Starcraft 2 players, but a sponsored team. I hear MBC has some Starcraft 2 players on their team now~~ Will be interesting for sure.
Meant the Korean oGs. like ensnare and fruitseller
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Good luck to IdrA. I hope SC2 goes far. It would be very sad seeing his whole career go downhill since he's just a great player. Sure he might be BM online, but he seems like a smart dude, and definitely a skilled player.
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Hope he finds a team that fits him.
GL and gogo Idra!
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id leave a kespa team too!
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I very much doubt Idra will join Liquid. I think either SK, mouz, fnatic or MYM will pick him up, since they have the funds to provide a much higher salary than Liquid.
Or he might join oGs if they are sponsored at all.
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Nice move, hope everything works out for him!
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On August 29 2010 00:32 LionsFist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:30 Befree wrote:On August 29 2010 00:12 Stegosaur wrote:
If I was in his spot right now the first thing I'd do is actually learn the Korean language. Maybe I just don't understand the situation, but I can't see why someone would live in Korea and not learn Korean. Doesn't this put him at a severe disadvantage? Or is English just that common among SC progamers? My guess is that Korean is actually a difficult language to learn, and that when you're following a strict schedule of 10-12 hours a day training, sleeping and eating, all week around, you're going to not have much time to focus on learning a new language as well?
True. Idra has stated himself that he was not very good at learning new languages and that he stopped learning the language after he felt that it was cutting into his practice time too much.
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it's nice that he's getting away from kespa.
i dunno if he'd join sk or mouz or any team like that. i have the feeling that idra would want to be on a starcraft-only team. it leads me to think oGs is the best guess.
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Can Idra be a prime? If he could, he can play alongside July :D
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On August 29 2010 01:57 Deathstar wrote:
Can Idra be a prime? If he could, he can play alongside July :D
Ofc he can. As long as they agree with each other and etc.
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sorry but he is in sc1 useless , good for CJ ! gl in c2 IdrA
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I have foreseen this! Media shall rise again!
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I wonder if the CJ Entus coach's ever found out about all of idra's bm? it wasn't so bad when he was playing brood war, but in some of the SC2 tournaments he was just a complete prick eg cursing his opponents out after losses, etc.
I can imagine them not wanting to extend his contract if they knew about all that. Maybe he's hoping to join a different team, but this sounds more like his bad attitude finally caught up to him.
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Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false.
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Tastless, Idra, Artosis, D'Appolo? whaa?
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On August 29 2010 02:15 attackfighter wrote:
I wonder if the CJ Entus coach's ever found out about all of idra's bm? it wasn't so bad when he was playing brood war, but in some of the SC2 tournaments he was just a complete prick eg cursing his opponents out after losses, etc.
I can imagine them not wanting to extend his contract if they knew about all that. Maybe he's hoping to join a different team, but this sounds more like his bad attitude finally caught up to him.
lol. Its not about BM.
You need to play Sc1 if you have a progaming license. Since Idra is focusing 100% on SC2, its stupid to continue in a team like CJ. And it is stupid to keep Sc2 player in a sc1 team if hes not playing the game they are focusing.
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On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false.
Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard.
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Surely teams must be lineing up to sign him.
He's the number1 most followed player and arguably the most skilled non-korean.
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I reckon he takes some time off to enjoy Korea more, and start learning the language. It's gonna be interesting to see what team IdrA ends up with!
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On August 29 2010 02:33 Butigroove wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false. Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard.
That isn't the reason why KesPa BW players aren't playing SC2.
They're sticking to BW 'cause that's where their money's at.
Yes the conflict between KesPa and blizzard is disheartening, but that's no reason to bash KesPa.
Simply put, KesPa = BW (as of now), and they aren't sponsoring SC2 tourneys/players just yet.
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On August 29 2010 02:36 LuciferSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:33 Butigroove wrote:On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false. Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard. That isn't the reason why KesPa BW players aren't playing SC2. They're sticking to BW 'cause that's where their money's at. Yes the conflict between KesPa and blizzard is disheartening, but that's no reason to bash KesPa. Simply put, KesPa = BW (as of now), and they aren't sponsoring SC2 tourneys/players just yet.
That's true, but there's evidence to suggest that Kespa won't ever really sponsor SC2. Take, for example, the recent showmatch between Nada and TLO. Even if Kespa was telling the truth and they didn't actually pull the plug (doubtful) they're still doing their very best to keep SC2 from having any kind of Kespa support (they said the showmatch could not be broadcasted to Korea).
Besides, they're pretty pissed at Blizzard over BW :\
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Lol if IdrA wins the first GSL tournament he'll probably have more money than he made at CJ over past 2 years! XD
$85K first place? (Or even $25K second place...) I'd leave CJ too! XD
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oh yeah did dApollo take part?
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My guess is MYM right now. Good move by IdrA though imo.
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On August 29 2010 02:36 LuciferSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:33 Butigroove wrote:On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false. Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard. That isn't the reason why KesPa BW players aren't playing SC2. They're sticking to BW 'cause that's where their money's at. Yes the conflict between KesPa and blizzard is disheartening, but that's no reason to bash KesPa. Simply put, KesPa = BW (as of now), and they aren't sponsoring SC2 tourneys/players just yet.
People don't like Kespa because they mess up everything and treat pubescent boys as slaves.
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I was curious as to why he wasn't wearing a CJ sponsor shirt at the IEM... I guess this answers my question. I don't think it'll take him very long to find a team. Good luck Idra!!
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On August 29 2010 03:10 Piy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:36 LuciferSC wrote:On August 29 2010 02:33 Butigroove wrote:On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false. Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard. That isn't the reason why KesPa BW players aren't playing SC2. They're sticking to BW 'cause that's where their money's at. Yes the conflict between KesPa and blizzard is disheartening, but that's no reason to bash KesPa. Simply put, KesPa = BW (as of now), and they aren't sponsoring SC2 tourneys/players just yet. and treat pubescent boys as slaves.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I'd like to see Idra play under the TLAF tag, that'd be nifty.
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i'd like to see him with prime. Him and check would make a deadly zerg duo
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Wow. I can't believe he would leave CJ. That sucks.
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kespa sucks. good for idra
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nice interview
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On August 29 2010 03:23 Brazen[six] wrote:I was curious as to why he wasn't wearing a CJ sponsor shirt at the IEM... I guess this answers my question. I don't think it'll take him very long to find a team. Good luck Idra!!
And they still paid for his trip?
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On August 29 2010 03:10 Piy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 02:36 LuciferSC wrote:On August 29 2010 02:33 Butigroove wrote:On August 29 2010 02:23 LuciferSC wrote:
Don't understand why there's so many people bashing KesPa.
You guys should know that belonging to a pro-SC team will greatly improve anyone's chance on being successful in SC.
Pro SC team provides you with coaching staff, who will give advises on builds and what not, and also give you plenty of practice partners in a structured environment.
I speculate that the only reason Idra leaving CJ is 'cause he isn't playing BW no more.
And for his own good, he should try to join up with TL and oGs, because oGs has a number of ex-BW pro gamers and they know how to practice.
But the point of this post is that there's no reason you guys should be bashing KesPa, making it sound like CJ was holding Idra back from becoming a better player, 'cause that is totally false. Do you know anything about Kespa? Kespa players aren't allowed to play in the GSL because of the power struggle between them and Blizzard. That isn't the reason why KesPa BW players aren't playing SC2. They're sticking to BW 'cause that's where their money's at. Yes the conflict between KesPa and blizzard is disheartening, but that's no reason to bash KesPa. Simply put, KesPa = BW (as of now), and they aren't sponsoring SC2 tourneys/players just yet. People don't like Kespa because they mess up everything and treat pubescent boys as slaves.
Too true. I still haven't forgiven them for killing GOM the first time around. >:[
Liquid wouldn't invite IdrA. There was just a Final Edit not too long ago about how Nazgul built the team out of only the most manner players, and IdrA couldn't be farther from that.
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I wish Idra good luck with finding a new team to get a new home in Korea, he deseves it, but honestly i would not be happy to see him representing TL
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Im guessing he will be joining either oGs or Prime very very soon . Good move by IdrA for sure. No reason to be on a team that doesn't support SC2 even though he is fully dedicated to it.
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On August 29 2010 04:02 Ilvy wrote:
I wish Idra good luck with finding a new team to get a new home in Korea, he deseves it, but honestly i would not be happy to see him representing TL
agree
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I always wondered why Idra was @ CJ if they had no SC2 official Team......
Good move, IMO.
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I have a feeling that IdrA will go to MYM. *cough* Artosis.
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On August 29 2010 03:55 DiamondTear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 03:23 Brazen[six] wrote:I was curious as to why he wasn't wearing a CJ sponsor shirt at the IEM... I guess this answers my question. I don't think it'll take him very long to find a team. Good luck Idra!! And they still paid for his trip? I'm pretty sure ESL paid for everyone's trip.
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Pretty exciting for IdrA to possibly join oGs, but at the same time, disappointing he's leaving CJ. I'd love to take his spot.. Hahaha
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I think IdrA deserves a real salary. Players like Moon, Grubby etc. got paid a LOT by European teams.
Time to step it up, buddy (MYM, SK, whoever is payin the most), and collect money for doing what you're best at. After all this time, I think you deserve a good salary with which you can make a decent, decent living.
Time to move to Germany, imo Isn't EPS paying a lot to its players? But IdrA has had some history with ESL, right?
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I dont think he will have problems to find a fitting team, since hes one of the very best players in the world.
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I would think oGs or MYM.
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There's no foreign team that would be able to give IdrA enough money to be able to live in Korea. The cost of living in Korea is actually quite high. That was one of the huge benefits to living in a pro-team environment like the one at CJ. Maybe he wasn't getting an amazing salary, but his room&board + food (inside the dormitory) were completely comped, he didn't pay for those. Try to figure out the cost of living into a number and add that to the salary he received (if any) and essentially that was his REAL salary.
In addition, I wanna look at some facts:
a) Coach Cho retired
b) Pro-Teams are cutting B-team players
c) This past draft, had the fewest drafted players
d) IdrA's contract was over and he was playing SC2
I think it was more of a mutual agreement between the two to not extend his contract any longer while some of you guys are making it sound like idra just told cj he was leaving and that was it.
Best of luck to IdrA in finding a new team, and hopefully pro-teams will pop-up soon. However, for now I think joining oGs would be his best bet, situationally. Then depending on the things to come in the future he can either leave oGs or stay as just a clan member.
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He probily going to join oGs I would imagine. Hes already in korea.
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It'd be interesting for him to join Liquid, but I really can't see that happening..
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On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.
You're wrong.
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He definitely needs to take his time when choosing his next team, find out what their long term goals are as well as immediate benefits. Why am I stating the obvious? I don't know.
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On August 29 2010 06:37 SC2Phoenix wrote:
He probily going to join oGs I would imagine. Hes already in korea.
It's already been stated oGs isn't currently looking for any foreign players. Also it wouldn't be a very good move to join a Korean team without any knowledge of the language I'd say.
But still, best of luck!
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I think he will join oGs, he will get the same benefits from them, as he would if he joined TL. He wud be with them and living with them all.
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wow i almost missed this because i never read this forum :O
it has NEVER occurred to me that idra would leave cj...
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On August 28 2010 22:17 niteReloaded wrote:
It'd be pretty natural for him to join TL-oGs imo. They have the skill, the variety of playstyles and fellow english speakers. It would do good to his mental health to hang around people more similar to himself when it comes to lifestyle.
I don't think Liquid wants his bad manners to be honest. The team is not all about skill its about manners as well and Idra does not have a good reputation in that sense. But he might go with oGs though.
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There aren't very many decent team choices for him for SC2 at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave it a little time to see which teams are developing, and just played in tournaments on his own for the time being.
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So now that he left CJ, whats his visa status? Moreover, I'm not quite familiar with this but are non-Korean gaming companies able to sponsor visas for foreigner gamers?
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I'm envisioning an epic team with Artosis, Idra, Rekrul, and FirebatHero. All they have to do is convince Rek and FBH to play SC2 with them.
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why the hell would idra go to ogs , there is nothing og abt him. that and everyone in korea knows he bms and whines alot so i bet he gets picked up by a top euro team looking for a place in korea. if not he just has to get through the gsl and someone will sign him for sure
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What is encouraging is the korean comments about the interview mentioning surprise at even foreigners not liking kespa, it means there is some serious change coming in korean E-sports that korean public opinion is turning against kespa.
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I also noticed the OSL stage had Blizzard Entertainment logo at some part on the ro8. Is that pretty normal or is Blizzard starting to win out over Kespa?
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I'm enjoying all the comments in this thread from people who clearly haven't read the thread...
Can't wait to see what's in IdrA's future! I personally am rooting for Media's second coming 
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The friend he is gonna live with is Artosis right?
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On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong.
Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.
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On August 29 2010 11:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
What is encouraging is the korean comments about the interview mentioning surprise at even foreigners not liking kespa, it means there is some serious change coming in korean E-sports that korean public opinion is turning against kespa.
Yup 1 netizen comment clearly shows the public opinion of kespa. You don't read comments often do you?
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Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team.
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On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team.
Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team.
No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language.
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It'll be sweet if he teams up with TL oGs|oGs TL
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i wonder how Idra is gonna make a living after he leaves CJ. i m not saying his n00b but there are very very few ppl good enuf to make a living solely out of tourney winnings and sponsorships.
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On August 29 2010 09:03 Slow Motion wrote:
I'm envisioning an epic team with Artosis, Idra, Rekrul, and FirebatHero. All they have to do is convince Rek and FBH to play SC2 with them.
After reading Rek's thread bashing idra, i don't think they like each other very much hehe
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On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:
No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language.
This is not necessarily true when you start thinking about sponsorships. Having a reputation for raging and being ill-mannered really doesn't help when looking for someone that's willing to give you money to represent them. It's a PR issue and liability. This isn't to say that nobody will overlook this, but to say that it doesn't factor in or matter at all, is probably inaccurate.
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On August 29 2010 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:
No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. This is not necessarily true when you start thinking about sponsorships. Having a reputation for raging and being ill-mannered really doesn't help when looking for someone that's willing to give you money to represent them. It's a PR issue and liability. This isn't to say that nobody will overlook this, but to say that it doesn't factor in or matter at all, is probably inaccurate.
Sure, I can agree to that. However, to say a Korean team won't take him because he is BM, when he has in fact been playing on one for several years, is just ridiculous.
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I think laddering is the best way for idra to train. He can keep up wih the latest early game strategies that most teams neglect to use (reasonably so because they hold such confidence in their strong mid-late game)
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I hope he wins the GSL.
best of luck man!
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On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language.
Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
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I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit.
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I doubt OGS is an option because they already have a pretty good amount of foreigners and for some reason I think they don't want a mainly foreign team? I could be wrong and I know OGS is supportive of every foreign and domestic but to continue to add foreigners to their roster might piss some people off?
On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit.
Do you mean practicing with pros as in SC2 pros? Because he has been practicing with pros for 5+ years.
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On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros.
? Idra trained the past 2 years with pros..
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On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
You do know he was on a Korean team right? Maybe they do prefer Korean players, that may or may not be true. It is still a silly argument given his history there.
You change your argument on the second point. You said that a Korean team "certainly" won't take him, context suggests rejection by team, not what is or isn't Idra's preference.
I don't know what you're talking about with the google wave thing. I would've liked to see it get used because it was great program and I probably said something on here about it at some point I guess. Either way, my thoughts on networking trends shouldn't matter here.
Try and stay on topic.
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On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
Pretty sure he's tried to learn korean and practicing 10 hours a day while learning a whole new language isnt easy or very feasible.
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On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
Stop talking as if you know shit. It's good for their image if Korean teams take in a foreigner (white people are loved in Korea) and Idra IS learning Korean.
And I'm Korean, hence my word > yours.
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why would bm play any role in this? he isnt bm in real life, he isnt even allowed to chat in GSL matches.
my guess would be that he joins ogs/tl if they pay a salary.
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On August 29 2010 12:09 Donner wrote:
why would bm play any role in this? he isnt bm in real life, he isnt even allowed to chat in GSL matches.
my guess would be that he joins ogs/tl if they pay a salary.
the fact that TL already told him a couple times that he needed to stop being bm, also temp banned him a few times and warning him that he's about to get perm banned, is enough for me to think that he's not going to join TLAF-Liquid`
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Have you read/heard any of his interviews? Idra doesn't really care about learning Korean nor does he have that much interaction with his CJ teammates beyond a select few. Be informed before you make random statements.
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On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong. Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.
I am the sponsor.
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On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong. Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary. I am the sponsor.
I took this seriously and googled Heosat :X
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On August 29 2010 12:06 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)? Stop talking as if you know shit. It's good for their image if Korean teams take in a foreigner ( white people are loved in Korea) and Idra IS learning Korean. And I'm Korean, hence my word > yours.
You would think they would love all the foreign English teachers then...oh wait...
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On August 29 2010 12:17 Hikko wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong. Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary. I am the sponsor. I took this seriously and googled Heosat :X
Annoyingly there are a couple of impostors now. :/ I blame being featured in several of Husky's videos.
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TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...
If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.
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heosat: As a sponsor I assume you have say into who joins Liquid (sponsored or not)?
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On August 29 2010 12:32 lac29 wrote:
heosat: As a sponsor I assume you have say into who joins Liquid (sponsored or not)?
I am privy to discussions but ultimately I will agree with Nazgul, who has far more experience in this realm than I do.
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On August 29 2010 12:24 Platypus wrote:
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...
If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.
It's not his decision to leave CJ, his contract was running out and he didnt get a new one. Otherwise i guess he would have liked to stay with CJ
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On August 29 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote:
Have you read/heard any of his interviews? Idra doesn't really care about learning Korean nor does he have that much interaction with his CJ teammates beyond a select few. Be informed before you make random statements.
He does learn Korean. He also said that he really likes the korean food and language and is always happy when he comes to Korea from a US trip because the food is so healthy.
I think the chance that he actually becomes good at korean and becomes pretty famous at some point in his sc2 career is kinda high because he is not really as ignorant as some people think he is.
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On August 29 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote:
because he is not really as ignorant as some people think he is.
are you sure we're talking about the same person here?
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Comrade: You quoted the wrong person.
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On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit.
love it... made me laugh!
Wait so IdrA = goku? His temperament seems more like Vegeta... <shrug> It's too late to be over thinking a Dragonball reference...
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On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong. Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary. I am the sponsor.
So, Liquid members are paid a monthly/whatever-ly salary? Neat.
Also, a bit of an annoying way to "Correct me" When I say that; I'm actually looking for info, not a quip.
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On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want. i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now.
Liquid invites players, they don't accept applications.
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ah well, there probably wasn't much hope for him in CJ since most KeSPA teams are definitely more focused on BW
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On August 29 2010 13:05 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly. You're wrong. Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary. I am the sponsor. So, Liquid members are paid a monthly/whatever-ly salary? Neat. Also, a bit of an annoying way to "Correct me" When I say that; I'm actually looking for info, not a quip.
My apologies. I am sometimes too succinct.
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2010 12:36 wiesel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 12:24 Platypus wrote:
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...
If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.
[quote]+ Show Spoiler +It's not his decision to leave CJ, his contract was running out and he didnt get a new one. Otherwise i guess he would have liked to stay with CJ
i dont think that is necessarily true. the way i see it is IdrA on CJ Entus>only SC2 player on CJ and has permission from the team to switch to SC2>CJ subject to KeSPA>KeSPA and blizz not doing too good and KeSPA trying stifle the growth of SC2 in korea>im guessing his team takes a large cut of his tournament winnings>contracted player so cant leave> contract running out soon> decides to leave because he doesnt want to be controlled by KeSPA and have a large part of his earnings taken away when the team isnt really helping him improve since he cant practice with any of them> no point in being on team>decides to put in his notice that he doesnt want a new contract.
its a good time to leave since GSL is starting and its got an enormous prize pool. he can earn a lot there especially if he wins since he'll get to keep it all. and he basically earned it himself since like i said no practice help from his team since none of them play.
he moved to korea to join the team cause that was just what you had to do for BW. SC2 isnt very big in korea yet and all of the big stuff is going on in the West. so i'm thinking he might not see much reason to stay in korea anymore as well since the language barrier he has said is very hard to deal with. i wouldnt be surprised to see him come home since this is where the scene is really taking off. i dont think this game is going to revolve around korea like BW did. and i believe he's said time and time again the Korea server is probably worse than NA is.
That's how i'm seeing it all from what i know. it's all guessing but i think its probably the closest thing to the truth than that he just couldnt get a new contract. im betting he didnt want one.
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On August 29 2010 12:50 banzaiib wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit. love it... made me laugh! Wait so IdrA = goku? His temperament seems more like Vegeta... <shrug> It's too late to be over thinking a Dragonball reference...
Yeah he's definitely more like Vegeta. Vegeta improves through his rage. Like when Goku showed every his super saiyan transformation in the Trunks saga, Vegeta was all pissed and wanted it super bad. He felt like he deserved it more since he is the prince of all saiyans. So then instead of going through emotional distress to become super saiyan, Vegeta knocked out a monstrous training session to achieve his goal. If you don't remember, he trained at like 300x earths gravity then he landed on some planet. A giant asteroid was going to wreck his ship but then he got owned and raged hard. All of a sudden, he turned super saiyan.
So I guess right now Idra is like super saiyan vegeta but now he is trying to achieve ultimate level. New training house is therefore the hyperbolic time chamber. Then to go even further, he is going to let himself get possessed (by kespa maybe?) and become super saiyan majin Idra. Remember Idra, there is good in your heart! Don't turn yourself over to kespa
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+ Show Spoiler +[QUOTE] On August 29 2010 13:15 Keldrath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2010 12:36 wiesel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 12:24 Platypus wrote:
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...
If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action. [quote] + Show Spoiler +It's not his decision to leave CJ, his contract was running out and he didnt get a new one. Otherwise i guess he would have liked to stay with CJ i dont think that is necessarily true. the way i see it is IdrA on CJ Entus>only SC2 player on CJ and has permission from the team to switch to SC2>CJ subject to KeSPA>KeSPA and blizz not doing too good and KeSPA trying stifle the growth of SC2 in korea>im guessing his team takes a large cut of his tournament winnings>contracted player so cant leave> contract running out soon> decides to leave because he doesnt want to be controlled by KeSPA and have a large part of his earnings taken away when the team isnt really helping him improve since he cant practice with any of them> no point in being on team>decides to put in his notice that he doesnt want a new contract. its a good time to leave since GSL is starting and its got an enormous prize pool. he can earn a lot there especially if he wins since he'll get to keep it all. and he basically earned it himself since like i said no practice help from his team since none of them play. he moved to korea to join the team cause that was just what you had to do for BW. SC2 isnt very big in korea yet and all of the big stuff is going on in the West. so i'm thinking he might not see much reason to stay in korea anymore as well since the language barrier he has said is very hard to deal with. i wouldnt be surprised to see him come home since this is where the scene is really taking off. i dont think this game is going to revolve around korea like BW did. and i believe he's said time and time again the Korea server is probably worse than NA is. That's how i'm seeing it all from what i know. it's all guessing but i think its probably the closest thing to the truth than that he just couldnt get a new contract. im betting he didnt want one.[/QUOTE]
There's still too much stigma around pro gaming in NA for it to become popular with the mainstream, not to mention that it's very difficult to make a living as a full time gamer here as well.
Just look at the prize purse for this MLG event and compare it to the GSL. MLG has been around for years and it hasn't really been able to expand outside of its niche gaming culture.
As much as I'd love a huge e-sports scene to emerge in the west, I doubt that it will happen anytime soon, or at all.
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There's still too much stigma around pro gaming in NA for it to become popular with the mainstream, not to mention that it's very difficult to make a living as a full time gamer here as well.
Just look at the prize purse for this MLG event and compare it to the GSL. MLG has been around for years and it hasn't really been able to expand outside of its niche gaming culture.
As much as I'd love a huge e-sports scene to emerge in the west, I doubt that it will happen anytime soon, or at all.
To be fair, they are testing the waters with SC2 right now.
If you look at Halo3, the prize pool is MUCH bigger. (Although it's split between 4 people)
http://pro-circuit.mlgpro.com/pro-circuit/2010/raleigh/halo-3-4v4/prizes
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i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
Very nicely said and finally nice to get the real story of what is happening. And I think all of us can sympathize with you and your decision.
Though if you were to let out what team you were looking at joining next I'm sure we'd all be very appreciative :D
That being said I'm one of Idra's biggest fans since BW and I look forward to supporting him further in his career no matter where he ends up.
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
nice to hear from the primary source
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As long as you are posting Idra, any words on which team you would like to play for?
Good luck with everything.
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Idra I... I love you. There I said it. But honestly I think you would be best at Ogs. They are really good, And have fellow english speakers. Is there somehow you can see how it would be at each team without actually signing up with them?
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i dont know yet which team ill join, the only thing thats for sure at this point is that i will be staying in korea because of the gsl.
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On August 29 2010 14:44 IdrA wrote:
i dont know yet which team ill join, the only thing thats for sure at this point is that i will be staying in korea because of the gsl.
i wish you the best of luck and look forward to watching your career grow and develop. i cant wait to see more of you in the future. IdrA Fighting!
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good luck IdrA! you're an inspiration to a lot of players
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
do you think it's possible you might slack and/or not be as sharp as you could if you continued to live "the progaming lifestyle" ?
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On August 28 2010 22:31 Sanguinarius wrote:
TLAF'Liquid IdrA?
this was my first thought after reading this lol
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
Thanks for the explanation, Idra. It's good that you left CJ on good terms.
About this topic - do you think the pro-gaming lifestyle is appropriate for pro SC 2, or do you think the way the more freelance teams operate is better? Obviously you think the latter fits you better, but what about the long-term development of the scene?
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imo.. idra should move back to the states... easier comp.. could easily clean up 2500$ a pop at mlgs and the monthly tourneys.. and blizz is going to do big things soon i think.
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On August 29 2010 15:25 Hyp-The-Feared wrote:
imo.. idra should move back to the states... easier comp.. could easily clean up 2500$ a pop at mlgs and the monthly tourneys.. and blizz is going to do big things soon i think.
As HuK said, "I mean, this is a nice event and all, but 85k is 85k."
$2500 four times a year is nothing compared to $85,000 for the winner each month from GSL. Blizzard is standing behind the GSL/GomTV.
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"Work" eight hours a day now, and finally learn Korean with your spare time  Step two? Hot Korean girlfriend.
Make it happen, Greg.
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GL IdrA, I think it would be nice to join a team you can understand fluently
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This forum is amazing. Seriously...
Good luck IdrA, eff the haters and keep being your ass kicking self!!! Our fearless leader!
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Perhaps he should hook up with Cool and Tester since they where also dissatisfied with the immense practise time?
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On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
I'm sure a LOT of teams would want him on their team.
Honestly, how many foreigners (and American) are on Pro-korean teams? Idra is one of the few foreigners who actually made it there and most of us would root for him just from association by nationality. It's the same thing as Yao Ming playing basketball in the NBA. There's literally like a article on him every day in the Chinese newspaper even though theres absolutely no new news to report about him and every person in China roots for his team and buy his team's jerseys and merchandise just because "Yao Ming is on it". After Yao went into the NBA, basketball became a heck lot popular in china.
Look at TossGirl from BW afaik she's not very good but they keep her on a team for gimmicks and because she sells tickets. Idra can easily sell tickets and increase the SC2 esports fanbase in America just by being on the team.
No offense to Idra because he's very skilled and is one of the best sc2 players out there.
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
Ok Greg, thx for bringing some light into situation, but, as a big CJ fan would like to ask you if they showed a bit interest in recontracting you or do they have plans for SC2??
Best of Luck
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Whatever he does, he makes for a good presence in SC2 esports
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I thought IdrA was already in OGS?
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gregs actually a really professional guy
gl with your endeavors
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On August 29 2010 17:32 TriniMasta wrote:
I thought IdrA was already in OGS?
Nope. He was in CJ the last few years
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On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too
i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.
That's understandable
12 hours a day each day is retarded.
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12 hours a day is retarded, but all of you fanboys are screamin when top BW korean pros play and everybody wants to be as good as JD for examply, it's about the person if playing 16h profersional game is good enough for you to do for living it's ok. If not just get a real life
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Because in "real life jobs" people don't have to work 12 hours a day? I wish it would be true
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We'll see if oGs is the right place for Idra, if he really didn't want to play that much h/day and wanted more time to do something else. As far as i know, oGs is pretty 'hardcore' aswell? Thats why Tester and Cool left the team, to be more free and practise in their own schedule (before army..).
But good luck, will be rooting for you and hope to see you in a team when the time comes!
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I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
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On August 29 2010 12:47 lac29 wrote:
Comrade: You quoted the wrong person.
My bad, I had 2 qoute I guess you quoted whoever i was responding to and I removed one of the quote signatures. sorry.
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On August 29 2010 21:03 wiesel wrote:Because in "real life jobs" people don't have to work 12 hours a day? I wish it would be true
Most people in America work 8 hours a day and if you are white collar in reality much less than that. Alteast from my experience in the Corporate world that is how it works.
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On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
I do not think IdrA was greasy or rude. He just lost a finals in what would be, for him, the worst way possible. So sure, his mood wasn't the best. He was still calm and professional though, and this he has been nothing buy good for esports.
If only his in game manner matched his interview manner .
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On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
I'd say IdrA was admirably civilized at the IEM Finals Interview. The guy basically says to MorroW "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz reapers are imba" and then turns to IdrA and says "let's not talk about balance..." The interviewer is lucky he came away from that with all his teeth still left in his mouth.
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On August 29 2010 14:57 travis wrote:
do you think it's possible you might slack and/or not be as sharp as you could if you continued to live "the progaming lifestyle" ?
I'm worried about this too. I mean 12 hours a day is a bit excessive for SCII, but I hope Idra still maintains a strict practice schedule. Especially since he is a macro player which requires steady practice.
I think another Korean SC2 team would be great for IdrA because he can practice with other players instead of ladder grinding on CJ.
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It would be interesting to see if anyone has done some research into optimum training conditions for games.
When you think about sports sciences (i'm sure there is overlap here), diet, training regime all these sorts of things have a lot of study and research behind them. The Korean approach of more is more, seems rather unsophisticated.
As 'pro-gaming' becomes an increasingly lucrative activity, the degree of professionalism in training and preparation is going to increase too. I wonder if anyone knows if there is some actual study behind 'optimum' performance in gaming?
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On August 30 2010 00:51 piegasm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
I'd say IdrA was admirably civilized at the IEM Finals Interview. The guy basically says to MorroW "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz reapers are imba" and then turns to IdrA and says "let's not talk about balance..." The interviewer is lucky he came away from that with all his teeth still left in his mouth.
For some reason, I bursted out laughing at the last sentence :p
But yeah, I doubt IdrA will be picked up by a Korean team because of the language barrier, etc.
He will most likely be picked up by a team with many sponsors such as MYM ( Artosis ) until / if Korea switches over to Starcraft 2
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Actually not a big fan of this - I think Idra thrived in a Korean house with their work ethic pushing him.. but will be very keen to see where he ends up now :D
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On August 29 2010 15:41 crazeman wrote:
Look at TossGirl from BW afaik she's not very good but they keep her on a team for gimmicks and because she sells tickets.
While your post brings up a good point, I had to point out there aren't any tickets to sell for BW. She does bring in the fans, like a lot of oldschool players still on teams but with minimal (if any) game time, like Boxer, NaDa, July, etc.
As for IdrA, makes sense for him to leave so long as CJ is sticking with BW since he's not of any use to them as a practice partner nor they are to him (not to mention I can't imagine they'd be happy to officially sponsor a SC2 player until the official switch if an agreement with KeSPA is struck).
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On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?
Korean teams would rather add a foreigner than another Korean. If they didn't, no foreign player would have gone to Korea in the past six years.
Foreigners are different. And when they participate in Korean leagues, it makes Starcraft seem like a global sport.
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On August 30 2010 08:44 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team. Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team. No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language. Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)? Korean teams would rather add a foreigner than another Korean. If they didn't, no foreign player would have gone to Korea in the past six years. Foreigners are different. And when they participate in Korean leagues, it makes Starcraft seem like a global sport.
I kinda agree ... I think they are looking for good players. From what I understand all foreigners have not qualified for the GSL. So, I think Idra may have made a mistake leaving CJ right now, unless he has something lined up we don't know about.
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On August 30 2010 00:51 piegasm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
I'd say IdrA was admirably civilized at the IEM Finals Interview. The guy basically says to MorroW "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz reapers are imba" and then turns to IdrA and says "let's not talk about balance..." The interviewer is lucky he came away from that with all his teeth still left in his mouth.
MorroW admitted to Dennis sometime before the match that reapers are imbalanced.
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On August 30 2010 08:51 jax1492 wrote:
I kinda agree ... I think they are looking for good players. From what I understand all foreigners have not qualified for the GSL. So, I think Idra may have made a mistake leaving CJ right now, unless he has something lined up we don't know about.
I don't think he made a big mistake at all. He's the clear favorite for #1 SC2 player in the world. The fact that he is now a "free agent" means that pretty much every well-known SC2 team will be looking to pick him up. The way I see it, he can only win in this situation.
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yeah this is probably a good move. he should join a team thats heavily into sc2. i guess its gonna be ogs or prime.
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On August 30 2010 08:52 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 00:51 piegasm wrote:On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
I'd say IdrA was admirably civilized at the IEM Finals Interview. The guy basically says to MorroW "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz reapers are imba" and then turns to IdrA and says "let's not talk about balance..." The interviewer is lucky he came away from that with all his teeth still left in his mouth. MorroW admitted to Dennis sometime before the match that reapers are imbalanced.
I know he did but that doesn't change anything. Here I'll rephrase my paraphrase: "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz, by your own admission, reapers are imba". If anything it makes it sound worse because now it's impugning not only MorroW's skill but his integrity as well.
Even if his poor English made it sound worse...the imbalance of the TvZ matchup is a really sore subject. It was completely inappropriate to bring it up at that point and simultaneously tarnish MorroW's win and rub salt in IdrA's wounds.
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Can you even name Korean sc2 teams beside prime or ogs? I don't think there are tons of Korean teams dying to pick Idra up. If he joins a team I predict it'll be a nonKorean one.
If not he might go the Nony route and come back home to the US and continue to compete from the US like Nony is doing.
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Tbh, I think his performance in GSL will be the telling factor. If he wins the whole thing, you can bet your ass korean teams will want him.
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Well, if idra succeeds in GSL, then he would have in his possession plenty of money to continue his freelancer game-life for a while.
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To all you people asking why IdrA doesn't just 'learn Korean', I direct you to this chart:
![[image loading]](http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8425/langg.jpg)
For a native English speaker, learning Korean isn't like learning Spanish or German. It's much harder.
Think IdrA has 2200 hours to spare?
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i think IdrA should join TL and perhaps help TL to become a foreign fighting force to challenge the koreans wud be cool for TL to flagship the foreign push into sc esports in korea ^^
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On August 30 2010 08:55 Rybka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 08:51 jax1492 wrote:
I kinda agree ... I think they are looking for good players. From what I understand all foreigners have not qualified for the GSL. So, I think Idra may have made a mistake leaving CJ right now, unless he has something lined up we don't know about. I don't think he made a big mistake at all. He's the clear favorite for #1 SC2 player in the world. The fact that he is now a "free agent" means that pretty much every well-known SC2 team will be looking to pick him up. The way I see it, he can only win in this situation.
How is he the clear favorite for number 1 sc2 in the world when there are such players as Cool and Tester (which he himself recognize as being troublesome to face)
Sure hes in the top, but saying hes number 1 is a bit over the edge
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I've been trying to learn korean as well and I think with Idras scedule it's almost impossible....
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I would be extremely upset if he joined a non korean team~
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On August 31 2010 05:45 Zacsafus wrote:i think IdrA should join TL and perhaps help TL to become a foreign fighting force to challenge the koreans wud be cool for TL to flagship the foreign push into sc esports in korea ^^
He already is on TL. And has over 10k posts. Yea......
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Very cool hope he chooses oGs
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On August 31 2010 08:47 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 05:45 Zacsafus wrote:i think IdrA should join TL and perhaps help TL to become a foreign fighting force to challenge the koreans wud be cool for TL to flagship the foreign push into sc esports in korea ^^ He already is on TL. And has over 10k posts. Yea......
He meant the team :/, not the forum.
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rofl some of you guys are ridiculous. Idra is within the top 10 if not top 3 SC2 players in the world.
there are a plethora of teams that would LOVE to pick him up seeing how he is always doing well in whatever event he enters. anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant or has their head crammed too far up their ass to see the light of day.
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Maybe idra finally realized that he's like the team mascot and decided to quit.
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Any team would be lucky to get IdrA to play for them
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It's about time IdrA moved on from CJ.
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On August 31 2010 08:59 Vorrenus wrote:
Maybe idra finally realized that he's like the team mascot and decided to quit.
Maybe you should read at least some tiny portion of threads before posting in them.
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I think he should spend some time with the dalai lama, then maybe he'd be less of a douche
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On August 31 2010 13:32 SoulSever wrote:
I think he should spend some time with the dalai lama, then maybe he'd be less of a douche
... so much IdrA hate... How is his even relevant at all?...
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Rofl at 3 red texts on this page. What is it about Idra that gets everyone so riled up? He's good at the game, so he's allowed to be a little cocky. Don't like it? First get as good as he is, then you get to be cocky too.
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Social Experiment: give IdrA banling status, see how many survive :3
OT: I don't think IdrA knows what he's going to do next. I guess he's just going to continue to train and live of his winsavings, whilst waiting for the Korean SC2 scene to develop.
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On August 31 2010 14:43 Saechiis wrote:
Social Experiment: give IdrA banling status, see how many survive :3
OT: I don't think IdrA knows what he's going to do next. I guess he's just going to continue to train and live of his winsavings, whilst waiting for the Korean SC2 scene to develop.
The few thousand dollars hes won, at most 10k, is a serious joke that won't last for more than 2 years for a healthy and somewhat entertaining life style.
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On August 31 2010 14:28 MangoTango wrote:
Rofl at 3 red texts on this page. What is it about Idra that gets everyone so riled up? He's good at the game, so he's allowed to be a little cocky. Don't like it? First get as good as he is, then you get to be cocky too.
Good manners are so important in the SC community that anyone who doesn't play by the highly cordial rulebook catches a lot of flak. Idra is just a normal guy who gets frustrated now and then and lets that get away from him. He's also very blunt and honest about his opinions, so even when he's just speaking his mind he can rub people the wrong way. There are people like this in every single sport around the world from American Football to Mixed Martial Arts, but only in eSports is it considered abnormal to not be the most courteous one can be.
On Topic: If Idra is smart he'll play the field a bit, so long as he's on top he can get a feel for what teams want him and let them woo him a bit. He should be a hot commodity, not only because he's one of the top players but he's also a foreigner which gives him a unique niche to fill. He just needs to be careful that he doesn't fall behind before he gets on a team again, because having a team to keep him focused and help him train is going to keep his skills sharper than hanging out in his friend's apartment.
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On August 31 2010 14:46 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 14:43 Saechiis wrote:
Social Experiment: give IdrA banling status, see how many survive :3
OT: I don't think IdrA knows what he's going to do next. I guess he's just going to continue to train and live of his winsavings, whilst waiting for the Korean SC2 scene to develop. The few thousand dollars hes won, at most 10k, is a serious joke that won't last for more than 2 years for a healthy and somewhat entertaining life style.
You forget, he also made (albeit most likely quite small) a salary whilst at CJ. that in tandem with his tourny winnings + hes living with a friend only temporarily until he gets a team means he should definitely be good for a while. i imagine idra banked most if not all of his salary as he didnt really have the chance to go spend it on anything while at cj plus he had room/board paid for. so besides the occasional meal and whatnot + hookers with artosis he probably hasnt spent that much money in korea
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On August 31 2010 05:40 Hinanawi wrote:To all you people asking why IdrA doesn't just 'learn Korean', I direct you to this chart: For a native English speaker, learning Korean isn't like learning Spanish or German. It's much harder. Think IdrA has 2200 hours to spare?
Why is japanese starred?
Also, I really don't think it's fair to be calling IdrA a mascot. Maybe if he couldn't win foreign tournaments he might qualify for the token white guy but anyone whose been following Brood War knows his results.
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On August 31 2010 08:47 TheAngelofDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 05:45 Zacsafus wrote:i think IdrA should join TL and perhaps help TL to become a foreign fighting force to challenge the koreans wud be cool for TL to flagship the foreign push into sc esports in korea ^^ He already is on TL. And has over 10k posts. Yea......
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For those of you who don't know, CJ Entus is mainly (although they do other things too) a food provider, so basically:
Every time IdrA raged, a poor starving African child starved even more, possibly died.
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Could be nice if he joined liquid.
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On August 31 2010 17:25 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 08:47 TheAngelofDeath wrote:On August 31 2010 05:45 Zacsafus wrote:i think IdrA should join TL and perhaps help TL to become a foreign fighting force to challenge the koreans wud be cool for TL to flagship the foreign push into sc esports in korea ^^ He already is on TL. And has over 10k posts. Yea...... + Show Spoiler +
i was thinking the same thing lol
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On August 31 2010 14:54 Postman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 14:28 MangoTango wrote:
Rofl at 3 red texts on this page. What is it about Idra that gets everyone so riled up? He's good at the game, so he's allowed to be a little cocky. Don't like it? First get as good as he is, then you get to be cocky too. Good manners are so important in the SC community that anyone who doesn't play by the highly cordial rulebook catches a lot of flak. Idra is just a normal guy who gets frustrated now and then and lets that get away from him. He's also very blunt and honest about his opinions, so even when he's just speaking his mind he can rub people the wrong way. There are people like this in every single sport around the world from American Football to Mixed Martial Arts, but only in eSports is it considered abnormal to not be the most courteous one can be. On Topic: If Idra is smart he'll play the field a bit, so long as he's on top he can get a feel for what teams want him and let them woo him a bit. He should be a hot commodity, not only because he's one of the top players but he's also a foreigner which gives him a unique niche to fill. He just needs to be careful that he doesn't fall behind before he gets on a team again, because having a team to keep him focused and help him train is going to keep his skills sharper than hanging out in his friend's apartment.
NO, GOD NO. Idra is NOT a "normal guy who gets frustrated". "Normal" people don't call their opponent a "fag" just because he did a strategy that Idra couldn't deal with. Not only is that not "normal" for someone who supposedly claims professional status, it's not "normal" for any decent human being, period. It's normal for a douche though....
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On September 01 2010 02:31 divertiti wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 14:54 Postman wrote:On August 31 2010 14:28 MangoTango wrote:
Rofl at 3 red texts on this page. What is it about Idra that gets everyone so riled up? He's good at the game, so he's allowed to be a little cocky. Don't like it? First get as good as he is, then you get to be cocky too. Good manners are so important in the SC community that anyone who doesn't play by the highly cordial rulebook catches a lot of flak. Idra is just a normal guy who gets frustrated now and then and lets that get away from him. He's also very blunt and honest about his opinions, so even when he's just speaking his mind he can rub people the wrong way. There are people like this in every single sport around the world from American Football to Mixed Martial Arts, but only in eSports is it considered abnormal to not be the most courteous one can be. On Topic: If Idra is smart he'll play the field a bit, so long as he's on top he can get a feel for what teams want him and let them woo him a bit. He should be a hot commodity, not only because he's one of the top players but he's also a foreigner which gives him a unique niche to fill. He just needs to be careful that he doesn't fall behind before he gets on a team again, because having a team to keep him focused and help him train is going to keep his skills sharper than hanging out in his friend's apartment. NO, GOD NO. Idra is NOT a "normal guy who gets frustrated". "Normal" people don't call their opponent a "fag" just because he did a strategy that Idra couldn't deal with. Not only is that not "normal" for someone who supposedly claims professional status, it's not "normal" for any decent human being, period. It's normal for a douche though....
Nope, I'd say that reaction is pretty normal.
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On August 28 2010 22:13 iCCup.Diamond wrote:I was looking through the GSL stuff and saw and interview with IdrA that had some interesting info that is not quite getting as much attention as I would expect. The important quotes are highlighted like this.+ Show Spoiler [Idra] +IdrA: "I'm honored to have a spot in the GSL" - How do you feel about making it through with all wins? ▲ I'm happy I made it to the tournament with defeating everyone. - You've been doing well in StarCraft II tournaments ▲ I got 2nd in IEM in Germany, and before that I won the King of Kings End of Beta Tournament. - You're still CJ player as far as I know, did you have any problems entering the league?
▲ I was in CJ, but I left already. My contract ends the 31st of this month, and since it's almost over, I joined GSL.- Have you decided a new team to join?
▲ I want to join a team not associated with KeSPA. I don't have a specific team yet.- You were Terran in SC1, why did you switch to Zerg? ▲ I thought about changing race in SC1 since Terran didn't fit me, and I felt that Zerg fit my style better than Protoss. That's why I chose Zerg. - What do you think is attractive about the Zerg race? ▲ I like playing games having good economy and large armies, and I think Zerg fits that description the best. - What do you think about the balance? ▲ It's difficult to defend early rushes as Zerg, but I think the balance is getting better after every patch. - Where are you living in Korea?
▲ I'm still in CJ house, but I'm leaving soon. I think I'll stay with a friend until I find a team.- Your goals and determination for this GSL ▲ I hope the Korean fans enjoy my games. I'm honored to have a spot in the GSL, and I think it's going to be fun, so look forward to it. + Show Spoiler [Original Article] +- 전승으로 예선을 통과한 소감은
▲ 모두 이기고 본선에 오르게 돼서 기쁘다.
- 일찍이 스타크래프트2 대회에 참가해 좋은 성적을 거두고 있는데
▲ 얼마 전 독일에서 열린 IEM에서는 2등을 차지했고, 그 전에는 팀리퀴드 대회나 베타 테스트 당시 해외 마지막 대회였던 킹 오브 킹에서도 우승을 했었다.
- 아직 CJ 선수인걸로 아는데, 대회 참가에는 문제가 없었나
▲ 나는 CJ 선수였지만, 이미 팀에 남아 있지 않다. 계약 기간은 이번 달 31일까지 남아 있는데, 막바지라 참여하게 됐다.
- 새롭게 합류할 팀은 정했는지
▲ KeSPA와 관련되지 않은 팀들로 생각 중이다. 아직 정확히 가겠다고 계획된 팀은 없다.
- 스타1 당시 테란이었는데, 저그로 종족을 바꾼 이유가 있나
▲ 스타1 당시에도 테란이 잘 안 맞는 것 같아서 종족을 바꿀 생각이었는데, 프로토스로도 해봤지만 저그가 더 체질에 맞는 것 같았다. 그래서 저그를 선택했다.
- 저그라는 종족의 매력이 뭐라고 생각하는지
▲ 저그만의 확장력과 풍부한 자원을 이용한 물량 게임을 좋아하고, 그런 것에 있어서 저그가 가장 알맞은 것 같았다.
- 종족 간 밸런스에 대해서는 어떻게 생각하나
▲ 아무래도 저그는 초반 러시를 수비하기 어려운 종족이라 헤매는 경향이 있었는데, 패치를 통해서 한 걸음씩 더 완벽한 밸런스에 다가서고 있는 것 같다고 생각된다.
- 요즘 국내에서의 생활은 어디서 하고 있나
▲ 아직은 CJ 숙소에 있지만 곧 나올 것이다. 다른 팀에 들어가기 전까지는 친구와 지낼 것 같다.
- 이번 GSL에 임하는 목표와 각오는
▲ 한국 팬들이 내 경기를 즐겨주면 좋겠다. GSL에서 한 자리를 차지하게 돼서 영광이고, 굉장히 재미있을 것 같으니까 팬 분들도 기대 많이 해주시면 좋겠다.
Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110203&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=Thanks l10f! So will he be leaving Korea, or just signing with a new team like oGs that is not directly owned by KESPA? This is pretty big news to me, what does everyone think of this move? I personally would love to see him come back stateside but I have a feeling he was meant for Korea :D!
I thought he was kicked out of CJ Entus?
Anyway, he can't come back to the states. He has raged against too many players, and it would be dangerous to his health.
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On August 29 2010 14:44 IdrA wrote:
i dont know yet which team ill join, the only thing thats for sure at this point is that i will be staying in korea because of the gsl.
There have been rumors that you are going EG. Any truth to this story?
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