• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:28
CEST 05:28
KST 12:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?18Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9] 2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7221 users

New ZvT opener - Double Proxy EVO - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 14 Next All
Scope
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden147 Posts
August 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#121
I would loooove to see this developed into something more solid and cost-efficient. As it stands, zerg only has two cheeses, 6pool and baneling bust. Neither will even get you into diamond, I would assume. Terran tears brings life to the swarm.
I think therefore I win
Sentient
Profile Joined April 2010
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:19:46
August 24 2010 16:19 GMT
#122
Could you time this right to totally screw up a Terran's wall?

Build the hatchery but don't cancel it right away. If you must, cancel it and put down the evo chamber so it doesn't finish (or maybe to get some money back). When your speedlings arrive, cancel the hatchery or evo chamber and gain free entry into the base.
Dice.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States78 Posts
August 24 2010 16:20 GMT
#123
This is just silly!
Ahh, that's the stuff. [b]Team Dice[/b] [b][green]Main Team[/green][/b] 2 [tlpd#players#4#T#sc2-korean]Bbyong[/tlpd] 5 [tlpd#players#6#T#sc2-korean]Fantasy[/tlpd] 3 [tlpd#players#629#P#sc2-korean]Oz[/tlpd] 7 [tlpd#players#2322#P#sc2-korean]Parting[/tlp
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:23:16
August 24 2010 16:21 GMT
#124
You can hide Roach Warren off creep, before Lair, and a bit later spread the creep to support it. On maps like DO, where there's cliff and long ground path from the main to the cliff next to it - you can proxy spine crawlers, as it would take too long for the workers to go attack them. You can manner evo or proxy evo block the enemy's choke even later in game - it won't stop him, but will delay expo or his timing attack (manner evo ZvZ particularly). Otherwise, the main opportunity here over just more lings is that you get those time-bombs inside his base before his wall could be ready. Spending the same resources on lings would mean for them to just go and die at the wall.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
August 24 2010 16:24 GMT
#125
I am wondering... could you make some other thing on that creep? a tumor maybe?
Jävla skit
oni_link
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany165 Posts
August 24 2010 16:26 GMT
#126
yes
?:O
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:33:22
August 24 2010 16:32 GMT
#127
I think this could be an actually workable opening


My idea is a later speedling/(or baneling depending on timing) allin using the evo chamber to block the wall, massing lings at the bottom of his ramp, waiting until the chamber dies then at that exact second before they can plug the wall rushing the lings into his main. The broodlings should cover the lings as they make it up his ramp as well as insure them entry, then you can bounce in between the min line and the bunker raping their econ.


I think my idea could actually be viable

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
August 24 2010 16:35 GMT
#128
On August 25 2010 00:44 Iggyhopper wrote:
Wow, you could totally hide a spawning pool with that. This works against a protoss too.

Wouldn't the pool die after time since it would also lose health if you're hiding it?
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
Tiaan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
August 24 2010 16:36 GMT
#129
This will get hotfixed within 2 days. Garaunteed
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 16:39:01
August 24 2010 16:36 GMT
#130
On August 25 2010 01:35 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 00:44 Iggyhopper wrote:
Wow, you could totally hide a spawning pool with that. This works against a protoss too.

Wouldn't the pool die after time since it would also lose health if you're hiding it?


If it can stay alive until you can put a down a creep tumor it won't. Or if you are rushing it might not matter since you'd lose anyway if the rush doesn't succeed.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
August 24 2010 16:42 GMT
#131
On August 25 2010 01:36 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2010 01:35 cHaNg-sTa wrote:
On August 25 2010 00:44 Iggyhopper wrote:
Wow, you could totally hide a spawning pool with that. This works against a protoss too.

Wouldn't the pool die after time since it would also lose health if you're hiding it?


If it can stay alive until you can put a down a creep tumor it won't. Or if you are rushing it might not matter since you'd lose anyway if the rush doesn't succeed.

So you basically need to hide the pool still decently close enough to the main base, rush the creep tumor out (losing larva), delaying the pool/losing 75 minerals early on, just so MAYBE the enemy won't scout it?
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
August 24 2010 16:52 GMT
#132
On August 25 2010 01:15 Scope wrote:
I would loooove to see this developed into something more solid and cost-efficient. As it stands, zerg only has two cheeses, 6pool and baneling bust. Neither will even get you into diamond, I would assume. Terran tears brings life to the swarm.


Six pooling gets you way high in to Diamond. Still works wonders with limited micro against 800-900 Diamond players on the ladder the (very) few times I do it (usually when I realize that I really don't feel like playing SC while watching the loading screen).
I
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 17:18:12
August 24 2010 17:03 GMT
#133
I think my penis is filled with blood. I can't wait to try this out.

How is the economy after this? Looks a little all in, but i have no idea.
It is what it is...
juraigamer
Profile Joined July 2010
42 Posts
August 24 2010 17:09 GMT
#134
Love how the tard terran who tried to bunker rush calls this incredibly innovated zerg strategy cheese.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
August 24 2010 17:15 GMT
#135
On August 25 2010 01:15 Scope wrote:
I would loooove to see this developed into something more solid and cost-efficient. As it stands, zerg only has two cheeses, 6pool and baneling bust. Neither will even get you into diamond, I would assume. Terran tears brings life to the swarm.



wrong... 1k zerg at the top of my diamond league (not me, im just saying there's one there)

and when looking at his match history, 6 pool... 98% of his games
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
pikezeppelin
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden27 Posts
August 24 2010 17:21 GMT
#136
I am so gonna try this :D
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 24 2010 17:32 GMT
#137
Lol this is hilarous, but Blizzard will probably patch this as evo chambers aren't supposed to be "offensive" Just look at what happened to the spine crawler and queens for being too "offensive"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10835 Posts
August 24 2010 17:35 GMT
#138
Pearl necklace rush...? lol cool trick though --
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
August 24 2010 17:36 GMT
#139
It's funny, but I don't see it becoming an actual opening as it sets you so far behind.
Zeak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States19 Posts
August 24 2010 17:48 GMT
#140
Probably a bad idea, but what the hell, I'm so totally gonna experiment with this XD

If something useful does become of this, that would just be epic. Zerg really needs something more interesting to do...and Blizzard better not screw us out of something else again.
Don't worry about it =D
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:30
Masters Cup #151
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 147
EnDerr 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2722
GuemChi 1639
actioN 529
Sharp 84
Aegong 80
Noble 35
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm158
Counter-Strike
taco 628
minikerr298
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox711
Mew2King61
Other Games
summit1g5249
Coldzera 919
XaKoH 213
ViBE86
Trikslyr41
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV31
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• EnkiAlexander 139
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Light_VIP 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21779
League of Legends
• Lourlo582
• Stunt207
Other Games
• Scarra778
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
7h 32m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
Big Brain Bouts
1d 6h
Garitos vs ArT
Lambo vs Percival
TriGGeR vs ByuN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Patches Events
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
[ Show More ]
GSL
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.