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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
I criticize the guy a lot -- mostly because his potential to be gosu is platable, and like a lot of supporters believe he holds himself back more than any imbalance or opponent could. But what always impresses me about him is that he seems to take most criticism in stride. For a guy that feels that his race might be irreconciably fucked, he generally has a positive attitude and good sense of humour.  Go IdrA go! | ||
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MrSnibbles
United Kingdom267 Posts
On April 21 2011 00:54 Zorkmid wrote: ![[image loading]](http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/20/dce2c936-d1a5-4c73-bb7f-b87f41f132cf.jpg) Gold good sir, Gold. | ||
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Shagg
Finland825 Posts
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
Hope you get dates sorted out by Columbus! | ||
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imbs
United Kingdom320 Posts
On April 21 2011 01:57 Ichabod wrote: I believe JP said it was April 12th on this last podcast o.o (unless he means the week of since April 12th) Hope you get dates sorted out by Columbus! yea i think you are right, i almost turned it off assuming he hadn't updated blip yet or something and i was watching the one from the previous week. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
But I like it quite a lot. People came into it expecting basically a GSL clone, but the difference is that every GSL match has immediate, tangible consequences so people can get hyped every day it's on. The NASL is a slow builder. Like Inc said, even though every NASL game does have consequences, those are in 10 weeks or so. Later on in divisional play it'll feel like more is on the line, and then of course after that there's the live tournament. | ||
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netisopl1
Canada36 Posts
Its unfortunate because I know alot of people who really like the nasl and don't post anything, so everything we read about is negative beyond belief. I actually like the NASL. I like the casters. | ||
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butter
United States785 Posts
On April 20 2011 22:17 ArdentZeal wrote: Tyler Hotkey Setup: Remember to use english keyboardlayout (to the germans)
What i could gather from his small excerpt, might contain errors, but should be laying out the concept. If F becomes a control group, where do Forcefield and Forge go? | ||
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Fries
United States124 Posts
On April 21 2011 02:19 The KY wrote: Man Geoff sounds really down about the reaction to NASL. It's a shame, but there were a bunch of people who have just been incredibly aggressive towards it ever since the Clash of the Titans showmatch, which was plagued with issues, and people assumed NASL would have the same set up. As a result there were people having a go at the quality of the casts weeks before they started. But I like it quite a lot. People came into it expecting basically a GSL clone, but the difference is that every GSL match has immediate, tangible consequences so people can get hyped every day it's on. The NASL is a slow builder. Like Inc said, even though every NASL game does have consequences, those are in 10 weeks or so. Later on in divisional play it'll feel like more is on the line, and then of course after that there's the live tournament. I don't know that it's going to take that long. It will certainly ramp up over the course of the 9 games leading to the tournament, of course, but when you think about it starting tonight there are going to be good players dropping to 0-2 and starting to dig holes. All this creates for more dramatic matchups every week. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
I know a lot of players have been doing something like Q, W, E for all abilities, which I guess he could do W E R or W E S. On April 20 2011 22:50 turdburgler wrote: i find it funny how people still dont get that 5 friends having a chat isnt an epeen measuring contest Cereal. These guys are like best friends. Too many drama llamas on TL. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On April 21 2011 03:07 butter wrote: If F becomes a control group, where do Forcefield and Forge go? He didn't say it, if you want to do just put them where you can reach them easily when binding your units to 3-5 the skills probably go in the row beneath on qwert or something and forge shouldn't really matter at all, sure, you need to build it, but any key should be good | ||
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Treehead
999 Posts
I think people are not giving them the leeway that the ambitiousness of this project warrants. I'm willing to sit through an episode of "when cheese fails" every now and then to know that almost every single night I can go watch some pros duke it out when I don't feel like laddering. What other league provides that kind of service? I know Geoff needs to appear apologetic because he's the face of the operation, but I'd be pissed in his shoes. Think about this logically for a second. How many hours of content did they put out last week? How many of those hours (realistically) do you feel like were either unprofessional or a waste of your time (without knowing beforehand which games would turn out to be epic)? And remember - this was only the first week. I'm not a huge fan of either Incontrol or Gretorp, personally, but the amount of criticism them and their whole project is exposed to is rather silly. The only real complaint I had was in line with Tyler's observation - knowing that they're going to play a ton of games before anyone gets eliminated, the games lacked the elements of drama that we're used to seeing in big tournaments. I'd much rather go the route of the TSL (repeated single elimination tournaments to qualify for the end tournament rather than one long season), if it were up to me. But it isn't, and really, I'm just thankful for nightly content. I think others are, too, but they don't express it as much as those who feel like they were slapped in the face because 10 minutes of every hour they put out was disappointing. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
"After losing to Zenio, I punched the wall.... It did no damage though." xD | ||
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gnutz
Germany666 Posts
As a non-brood-war-player i find it disgusting you say "Mondragon outplayed Cruncher". The thing, why i like Sc2 more than Wc3, is, that it is actually a strategy game. You just can't build anything and win. In Wc3 you could, with a few exceptions, just have some units and micro them properly, and win 100% of the time. The thing about Sc2 is, that you can't do that. To win, you need not only some mechanics, but you actually need to outsmart your opponent. Mondragon obviously didn't have the experience of Infestors, so he would have easily won. But he didn't. And just because you actually need strategy for this game. So, while you can't say, Cruncher really outplayed Mondragon (because he did the same thing over and over ^^) you can say that to his series against Idra. Never saw such a simple gameplan which was just a hardcounter to Idra's style, not more or less. And also that is why Cruncher wins more, because his gameplan against Idra style is good against Zergs metagame now. But, like Day9 said: If the style gets figured out, it will be more than easy to win against Cruncher. Mondragon showed half the way to do it, now we need Idra to do the other half, getting the right units. That's also the main problem i have with Idra, he flames in games, where it is obvious what could have been done to win. Just playing different. And i think i don't need to add, that if you look at Roach/Hydra and then to VR/Colossus, you could see, that the "obvious counters" to Rach Hydra are Voidrays and Colossi. Just outsmart your opponent, not outplay him. That's the main thing that comes new with Sc2. ALL units have a place, therefore you need to think more about unit compositions in certain matches. And the mechanics are more easy, you can do that with little training. I honestly don't think Idra understood that. Maybe now, but not when he lost to Cruncher. That's why Cruncher is not to blame. His strategy is only designed to "counter" the actual Zerg-metagame. Not more. But not less. | ||
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Brad
2754 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 21 2011 02:19 The KY wrote: Man Geoff sounds really down about the reaction to NASL. It's a shame, but there were a bunch of people who have just been incredibly aggressive towards it ever since the Clash of the Titans showmatch, which was plagued with issues, and people assumed NASL would have the same set up. As a result there were people having a go at the quality of the casts weeks before they started. But I like it quite a lot. People came into it expecting basically a GSL clone, but the difference is that every GSL match has immediate, tangible consequences so people can get hyped every day it's on. The NASL is a slow builder. Like Inc said, even though every NASL game does have consequences, those are in 10 weeks or so. Later on in divisional play it'll feel like more is on the line, and then of course after that there's the live tournament. its all well and good him sounding down on sotg when people are shitting on him. but this is the guy who shits on everyone else. its all fun and fair game until people shit on him, and then its a super sad face sowwwyy guiiizzz moment and we are supposed to feel sorry for him? hes right to apologise for what the nasl has been so far. hes also right that its only their first week, they will improve and it will almost certainly be a great star league 'soon'. but thats not what he promised and so he deserves what hes got so far. this is also a pretty much dead horse that we should probably stop beating, after week 2 is finished, with their hopefully new maps, new production schedule, and hopefully no walkovers, then we can come back and maybe comment again but until then im quietly hopefully that we can see something really good come out this week. i agree that its hard to get psyched about these early weeks, but i dont think that can be avoided. when we get on to season 2 i think it will be alot better. they can compare the match to previous seasons, compare standings to how a player was doing before. and it will have the added excitement of relative "new blood" against veterans from season 1. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
Just finished listening to your answers. I like that you have acknowledged the mistakes NASL has made and agree that you shouldn't have hyped it as much. That being said, I think that if all of you guys stick with it, NASL will be worthy of the hype you gave it. Gl <3 | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On April 21 2011 03:51 turdburgler wrote: its all well and good him sounding down on sotg when people are shitting on him. but this is the guy who shits on everyone else. its all fun and fair game until people shit on him, and then its a super sad face sowwwyy guiiizzz moment and we are supposed to feel sorry for him? hes right to apologise for what the nasl has been so far. hes also right that its only their first week, they will improve and it will almost certainly be a great star league 'soon'. but thats not what he promised and so he deserves what hes got so far. internet trolling, serious business | ||
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kytten
United States163 Posts
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