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EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
February 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#10141
On February 17 2011 03:30 dsousa wrote:
InControl talks too much.... as a fat, white, American he makes me look bad.

And he ruined Idra for me too....

InControl is the SC2 Yoko Ono.

LOL you do know that inControl lifted weights competitively right?
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
February 16 2011 18:37 GMT
#10142
You will never guess who is whining and bringing more drama to reddit... Sigh.
Why can't we all just get along?
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
February 16 2011 18:39 GMT
#10143
Incontrol's dating stories were hilarious.

This is such a good podcast. Don't even play anymore and it's still incredibly entertaining.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
February 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#10144
On February 17 2011 02:52 coddan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 22:23 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:51 coddan wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:44 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:26 m0ck wrote:
Listening to the show now, that's a lot of trashy talk about morrow, a player so much more accomplished than everyone besides Idra in SC2 on the cast. I guess it's the role of the 'pundits' to have strong opinions, but Jebus it's a lot of judging so far. Players, matchups, casters.. Negativity is easy!

Maybe correct that Morrow is as accomplished as Nony and Incontrol in SC2 and BW, but to say that he is much more accomplished simply is not true.


Well, Morrow has won a couple of tournaments, including a major LAN, placed second in another major LAN and has a couple more top 3 placements. What does Incontrol och Tyler have to show?

Incontrol and Tyler. And.

Swedes. No wonder you come rushing to the aid of Morrow.

I never said that Morrow is worse or less accomplished than Tyler or Incontrol. By accomplished I spoke in a general sense, that of a pro-gamer in general when it comes to SC2 and BW. What I implied is that they (all three) are comparable; both in terms of playing ability and overall scene recognition and accomplishments. Honestly, if you disagree with that statement you need to stop fixating so much on players from your own country as I don't know any other reason you'd disagree. Sure, Morrow has won and placed well in tournaments, and sure neither Tyler nor Incontrol has won a major lan-tournament for SC2 yet, but they have a list of other accomplishments too long to go through in this post. Just an example that comes to my mind is Tyler winning a bo7 vs Idra where he lost a single game, and they have both participated in and placed well in a myriad of lans and online tournaments.


So now that you have no arguments you're going to attack me becaus I'm Swedish? I have no special feelings for Morrow. Fact is, he has accomplished several things in SC2 while Incontrol and Tyler have not. A single showmatch win is not much of an accomplishment, believe it or not, and why you're bringing BW up I have no idea. That was never the discussion.

Feel free to list these "accomplishments" that are too many to go through. They don't exist.

Look at their TLPD pages.
Morrow: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1212_MorroW
Tyler: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/678_Tyler
Incontrol: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1139_iNcontroL/main
Morrow has won 12 tournaments and one showmatch. He has placed second in 11 tournaments.
Tyler has won 2 showmatches. 0 silvers and 0 bronze.
Incontrol has won nothing.

You are the one who's blinded by Tyler and Incontrol being better known figured in the community.



Nony won TSL2.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 18:45:23
February 16 2011 18:44 GMT
#10145
On February 17 2011 03:41 magha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 02:52 coddan wrote:
On February 16 2011 22:23 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:51 coddan wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:44 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:26 m0ck wrote:
Listening to the show now, that's a lot of trashy talk about morrow, a player so much more accomplished than everyone besides Idra in SC2 on the cast. I guess it's the role of the 'pundits' to have strong opinions, but Jebus it's a lot of judging so far. Players, matchups, casters.. Negativity is easy!

Maybe correct that Morrow is as accomplished as Nony and Incontrol in SC2 and BW, but to say that he is much more accomplished simply is not true.


Well, Morrow has won a couple of tournaments, including a major LAN, placed second in another major LAN and has a couple more top 3 placements. What does Incontrol och Tyler have to show?

Incontrol and Tyler. And.

Swedes. No wonder you come rushing to the aid of Morrow.

I never said that Morrow is worse or less accomplished than Tyler or Incontrol. By accomplished I spoke in a general sense, that of a pro-gamer in general when it comes to SC2 and BW. What I implied is that they (all three) are comparable; both in terms of playing ability and overall scene recognition and accomplishments. Honestly, if you disagree with that statement you need to stop fixating so much on players from your own country as I don't know any other reason you'd disagree. Sure, Morrow has won and placed well in tournaments, and sure neither Tyler nor Incontrol has won a major lan-tournament for SC2 yet, but they have a list of other accomplishments too long to go through in this post. Just an example that comes to my mind is Tyler winning a bo7 vs Idra where he lost a single game, and they have both participated in and placed well in a myriad of lans and online tournaments.


So now that you have no arguments you're going to attack me becaus I'm Swedish? I have no special feelings for Morrow. Fact is, he has accomplished several things in SC2 while Incontrol and Tyler have not. A single showmatch win is not much of an accomplishment, believe it or not, and why you're bringing BW up I have no idea. That was never the discussion.

Feel free to list these "accomplishments" that are too many to go through. They don't exist.

Look at their TLPD pages.
Morrow: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1212_MorroW
Tyler: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/678_Tyler
Incontrol: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1139_iNcontroL/main
Morrow has won 12 tournaments and one showmatch. He has placed second in 11 tournaments.
Tyler has won 2 showmatches. 0 silvers and 0 bronze.
Incontrol has won nothing.

You are the one who's blinded by Tyler and Incontrol being better known figured in the community.



Nony won TSL2.

I haven't heard of any TSL2 tournament in Starcraft 2, have you?
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
February 16 2011 18:46 GMT
#10146
On February 17 2011 03:03 Odoakar wrote:
10,7 kB/s download speed, sweet!



Only 1 more hour left...


Shite:|
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
February 16 2011 18:49 GMT
#10147
On February 17 2011 01:04 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:43 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Its not SotG's fault you handled this wrong.

You come out and say I'm cutting back on my starcraft 2 content after the incident happened with the tournament. I just don't get how you see how much of a fuck up that is on your part. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASSUME since you didn't publicly say why...


Hahaha oh fucking wow. I'd love to see this attitude fly in real life, I mean really.

*Media personality slanders other media personality on popular broadcast show*
*Slandered personality sues the other guy*
*While standing in the courtroom, claims are made that 'oh the slandered guy just didn't handle it properly, that's the issue!'*

Ahahahah oh I'm fucking sorry, that is priceless, it's made my day just how fucking crazy that attitude is.

Here's the fuckin truth in black and white. This is what they were 'misinformed' about.

http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442649300959232
http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442787922718720

One after another, date-stamped, indisputable.

Now tell me I just didn't handle it right and I wasn't crystal clear.

oh god now the internet has become a court of law...

YOU POSTED THOSE WITH IN HOURS OF BEING TOLD YOU COULDN't CAST THE EVENT. How else are people going to take that. Are you that fucking stupid that you are not seeing how you fucked this up?

Here was your twitter

Will be cutting down on SC2 coverage to focus on other games which appeal to a large portion of my viewers. SC2 will still happen, dont fret
7:12 AM Feb 12th via TweetDeck

Today has been very disappointing on a number of fronts.
6:09 AM Feb 12th via TweetDeck

"Assembly Day 2 Cast.": http://j-tv.me/e1KJlv?a
3:46 AM Feb 12th via Justin.tv

after announcing that you were pissed off about what happened (who could blame you) you announce that you will be cutting down on sc2 coverage. Which yes, people did get their facts wrong that you were quitting that much is obvious. You still handled it unprofessionally and childish (which was all SotG was saying) Since this is apparently a COURT OF LAW (l oh fucking L) i guess i would have to prove how you are being unprofessional and childish. this conversation would be exhibit A. and then they would throw you in jail for being this god damn stupid.


BetterFasterStronger, are you actually this stupid?
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#10148
haha, sometimes reading this thread is better than the show itself
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
eVolvE342
Profile Joined January 2011
157 Posts
February 16 2011 19:00 GMT
#10149
wow,
clearly sotg cast was in the wrong with the whole totalbiscuit fiasco, however totalbiscuit's response makes me lose any sympathy that he gained in the misinformed accusations. Totalbiscuit- You had the opportunity to be the bigger man and you clearly showed that you aren't. Congrats.
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
February 16 2011 19:00 GMT
#10150
On February 17 2011 03:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
haha, sometimes reading this thread is better than the show itself


I completely agree! :D
OGS:levelchange
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
February 16 2011 19:03 GMT
#10151
On February 17 2011 03:49 MaRkieMarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 01:04 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On February 17 2011 00:43 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Its not SotG's fault you handled this wrong.

You come out and say I'm cutting back on my starcraft 2 content after the incident happened with the tournament. I just don't get how you see how much of a fuck up that is on your part. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASSUME since you didn't publicly say why...


Hahaha oh fucking wow. I'd love to see this attitude fly in real life, I mean really.

*Media personality slanders other media personality on popular broadcast show*
*Slandered personality sues the other guy*
*While standing in the courtroom, claims are made that 'oh the slandered guy just didn't handle it properly, that's the issue!'*

Ahahahah oh I'm fucking sorry, that is priceless, it's made my day just how fucking crazy that attitude is.

Here's the fuckin truth in black and white. This is what they were 'misinformed' about.

http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442649300959232
http://twitter.com/#!/Totalbiscuit/status/36442787922718720

One after another, date-stamped, indisputable.

Now tell me I just didn't handle it right and I wasn't crystal clear.

oh god now the internet has become a court of law...

YOU POSTED THOSE WITH IN HOURS OF BEING TOLD YOU COULDN't CAST THE EVENT. How else are people going to take that. Are you that fucking stupid that you are not seeing how you fucked this up?

Here was your twitter

Will be cutting down on SC2 coverage to focus on other games which appeal to a large portion of my viewers. SC2 will still happen, dont fret
7:12 AM Feb 12th via TweetDeck

Today has been very disappointing on a number of fronts.
6:09 AM Feb 12th via TweetDeck

"Assembly Day 2 Cast.": http://j-tv.me/e1KJlv?a
3:46 AM Feb 12th via Justin.tv

after announcing that you were pissed off about what happened (who could blame you) you announce that you will be cutting down on sc2 coverage. Which yes, people did get their facts wrong that you were quitting that much is obvious. You still handled it unprofessionally and childish (which was all SotG was saying) Since this is apparently a COURT OF LAW (l oh fucking L) i guess i would have to prove how you are being unprofessional and childish. this conversation would be exhibit A. and then they would throw you in jail for being this god damn stupid.


BetterFasterStronger, are you actually this stupid?


Do you guys all need a hug? I mean.. really ?
The guys on the show like to exagerate and sometimes even say stuff thats flat out not true.
But from all the posts on this forum i have not seen one post where TB was not extremly defensive and in a lot of cases extremly childish. Idra said some stupid shit about TB and TB responds by being on the exact same level as Idra. And lets face it , TB posted he would cut back on SC2 right after a disappointing tournament, that sounds like sulking to me. We can critizise the hosts for wrong interpretation as they clearly dont seem to like TB but come on man do you really have to respond the way you do about every bit critisism you get?
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
February 16 2011 19:05 GMT
#10152
Also, does anyone else think Sheth sounds exactly like PainUser... I thought it was him when I jumped in late.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
February 16 2011 19:07 GMT
#10153
rofl omg Tyler :D:D:D That ending was soo good!
Mada Mada Dane
Nourek
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany188 Posts
February 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#10154
On February 17 2011 03:11 yejin wrote:
State of the mp3: 1 hour 15 minutes remaining at 10,9ko/s - brought to you by the guys in charge of a North American SC2 league. Yeah, they seem to be technically on the edge, tournaments will run smooth.

I think that must be a local thing, because I could download this podcast at 5 MByte/s. Technical issues that only affect some people are pretty hard to resolve.
Blaine
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy188 Posts
February 16 2011 19:11 GMT
#10155
kinda disappointing they didn't mention the MVP v Squirtle match
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
February 16 2011 19:12 GMT
#10156
LOL you do know that inControl lifted weights competitively right?


Really.... i take it all back then.... he's a true american hero! Talk shits... wins nothing.... talks more shit.... rips people off with $100 subscriptions to unfinished websites.....big talks Idra out of Korea....

but he lifted weights competitively.... wow.

I heard this guys talk to the MLG CEO.... his business sense is quite poor...... he's just a big bully that 16 year olds worship. He won't last in SC2 or otherwise until he learns the real world isn't like high school.

He's got a better chance of winning a tournament in SC2 than he does in setting up and running a successful SC2 venture.

Idra was a fighter, winner and a champion.... then he joined EG.



www.KoshkaTV.com
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
February 16 2011 19:15 GMT
#10157
On February 17 2011 04:12 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
LOL you do know that inControl lifted weights competitively right?


Really.... i take it all back then.... he's a true american hero! Talk shits... wins nothing.... talks more shit.... rips people off with $100 subscriptions to unfinished websites.....big talks Idra out of Korea....

but he lifted weights competitively.... wow.

I heard this guys talk to the MLG CEO.... his business sense is quite poor...... he's just a big bully that 16 year olds worship. He won't last in SC2 or otherwise until he learns the real world isn't like high school.

He's got a better chance of winning a tournament in SC2 than he does in setting up and running a successful SC2 venture.

Idra was a fighter, winner and a champion.... then he joined EG.






Where is your show at? Link plz
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 16 2011 19:15 GMT
#10158
Hahahahahs sick

GET SOME
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
February 16 2011 19:16 GMT
#10159
On February 17 2011 04:12 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
LOL you do know that inControl lifted weights competitively right?


Really.... i take it all back then.... he's a true american hero! Talk shits... wins nothing.... talks more shit.... rips people off with $100 subscriptions to unfinished websites.....big talks Idra out of Korea....

but he lifted weights competitively.... wow.

I heard this guys talk to the MLG CEO.... his business sense is quite poor...... he's just a big bully that 16 year olds worship. He won't last in SC2 or otherwise until he learns the real world isn't like high school.

He's got a better chance of winning a tournament in SC2 than he does in setting up and running a successful SC2 venture.

Idra was a fighter, winner and a champion.... then he joined EG.


The problem is that... he will last. He has the connections, EG, Intel, MLG, you don't have to be good to
actually get people to believe you are.

I have yet to see that infamous league and how Incontrol takes part in that but right now, my feeling is: amateur and big mouth.
nospeech
Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
February 16 2011 19:16 GMT
#10160
Mocking MorroW for losing 3-1 to Ret in a ZvZ finals, roughly 4 months after he switched his race... and TB for getting upset about the people at Assembly screwing him over. GJ, guys! You sure don't look like a bunch of morons after this podcast. JP, you're a great guy, but get your fucking facts straight before talking to a live audience about someone's career decisions.

BTW, I used to be an Idra fan, but his unfounded hate towards MorroW is really fucking annoying. I actually think MorroW has greater potential as a Zerg player than IdrA does. Really hope he faces IdrA in a prestigious LAN tourney soon and shuts him up for good.
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