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Uniden
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom26 Posts
February 16 2011 19:42 GMT
#10181
Oh man, this sotg was soo good, especially the riffing on TB.

I mean, I know its not factually correct, but the drama and butthurt that always ensues when TB is criticised is so beautiful. Idra + Geoff confirmed for most incredible trolls.

Also I'm so happy to finally hear Geoff say what everyone already knows about Husky.
Ive been trying to explain how poor his casting is to my friends for a while (as if the fact they are still in gold and I'm in diamond isn't proof enough).
In defense of TB, at least his casts are exciting to watch because of his great casting voice.... whereas husky... oh dear god.... just nothing there of any value what-so-ever.
"you had it uniden...you had it"
Fist
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands235 Posts
February 16 2011 19:43 GMT
#10182
On February 17 2011 04:33 scottyyy wrote:
If you pause then resume the download it will get unstuck from 14kbps.

Omfg, i love you. It jumps right to 1 mbps<3
Have you ever realized just how insignificant your existence on this planet really is?
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
February 16 2011 19:47 GMT
#10183
On February 17 2011 04:42 Uniden wrote:
Oh man, this sotg was soo good, especially the riffing on TB.

I mean, I know its not factually correct, but the drama and butthurt that always ensues when TB is criticised is so beautiful. Idra + Geoff confirmed for most incredible trolls.

Also I'm so happy to finally hear Geoff say what everyone already knows about Husky.
Ive been trying to explain how poor his casting is to my friends for a while (as if the fact they are still in gold and I'm in diamond isn't proof enough).
In defense of TB, at least his casts are exciting to watch because of his great casting voice.... whereas husky... oh dear god.... just nothing there of any value what-so-ever.

Just wanted to tell you that I found the highlighted part quite comical. Of all the reasons I've seen for Husky hate that one takes the cake.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 19:48:14
February 16 2011 19:47 GMT
#10184
Rofl. How come so many people are offended by Incontrol?

I would advice you to live in Holland for a few years.

EVERYBODY is like that lol. He's just a hilarious guy. Morrow is a fucking amazing player, incontrol knows that and he didn't bash him at all. Just stfu, k.

Yusername
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 19:55:16
February 16 2011 19:49 GMT
#10185
On February 17 2011 04:26 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 04:16 Yusername wrote:
Mocking MorroW for losing 3-1 to Ret in a ZvZ finals, roughly 4 months after he switched his race... and TB for getting upset about the people at Assembly screwing him over. GJ, guys! You sure don't look like a bunch of morons after this podcast. JP, you're a great guy, but get your fucking facts straight before talking to a live audience about someone's career decisions.

BTW, I used to be an Idra fan, but his unfounded hate towards MorroW is really fucking annoying. I actually think MorroW has greater potential as a Zerg player than IdrA does. Really hope he faces IdrA in a prestigious LAN tourney soon and shuts him up for good.


Were you even listening? They said he was a great player.

Sheth said he was a great player. Incontrol too, before he started to make fun of his oh-so-terrible-god-awful ZvZ. IdrA was just bashing him, as usual. He really seems to hate the guy, which I find disturbing, since MorroW's always been nice and polite to IdrA.

I'm almost fine with Incontrol's mocking, though, since he defended MorroW by mentioning there aren't many Zergs to practice against in Europe.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
February 16 2011 19:50 GMT
#10186
On February 17 2011 03:44 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:41 magha wrote:
On February 17 2011 02:52 coddan wrote:
On February 16 2011 22:23 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:51 coddan wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:44 Dystisis wrote:
On February 16 2011 21:26 m0ck wrote:
Listening to the show now, that's a lot of trashy talk about morrow, a player so much more accomplished than everyone besides Idra in SC2 on the cast. I guess it's the role of the 'pundits' to have strong opinions, but Jebus it's a lot of judging so far. Players, matchups, casters.. Negativity is easy!

Maybe correct that Morrow is as accomplished as Nony and Incontrol in SC2 and BW, but to say that he is much more accomplished simply is not true.


Well, Morrow has won a couple of tournaments, including a major LAN, placed second in another major LAN and has a couple more top 3 placements. What does Incontrol och Tyler have to show?

Incontrol and Tyler. And.

Swedes. No wonder you come rushing to the aid of Morrow.

I never said that Morrow is worse or less accomplished than Tyler or Incontrol. By accomplished I spoke in a general sense, that of a pro-gamer in general when it comes to SC2 and BW. What I implied is that they (all three) are comparable; both in terms of playing ability and overall scene recognition and accomplishments. Honestly, if you disagree with that statement you need to stop fixating so much on players from your own country as I don't know any other reason you'd disagree. Sure, Morrow has won and placed well in tournaments, and sure neither Tyler nor Incontrol has won a major lan-tournament for SC2 yet, but they have a list of other accomplishments too long to go through in this post. Just an example that comes to my mind is Tyler winning a bo7 vs Idra where he lost a single game, and they have both participated in and placed well in a myriad of lans and online tournaments.


So now that you have no arguments you're going to attack me becaus I'm Swedish? I have no special feelings for Morrow. Fact is, he has accomplished several things in SC2 while Incontrol and Tyler have not. A single showmatch win is not much of an accomplishment, believe it or not, and why you're bringing BW up I have no idea. That was never the discussion.

Feel free to list these "accomplishments" that are too many to go through. They don't exist.

Look at their TLPD pages.
Morrow: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1212_MorroW
Tyler: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/678_Tyler
Incontrol: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1139_iNcontroL/main
Morrow has won 12 tournaments and one showmatch. He has placed second in 11 tournaments.
Tyler has won 2 showmatches. 0 silvers and 0 bronze.
Incontrol has won nothing.

You are the one who's blinded by Tyler and Incontrol being better known figured in the community.



Nony won TSL2.

I haven't heard of any TSL2 tournament in Starcraft 2, have you?

When I entered the discussion, I stated immediately that I was discussing the Starcraft scene in general. Never once have I said SC2 specifically. They are on a comparable level in the Starcraft scene, and in general as far as pro gaming accomplishments go. However, if you want to narrow it down to SC2, I would suggest this: How about a poll asking who people would guess won a bo7 between, say, Liquid`Tyler and Morrow? My guess: The odds would turn out fairly close.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 16 2011 19:51 GMT
#10187
You were talking out your ass about TB, you were talking out your ass about morrow. Ass-talking is dumb. Don't be dumb!
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
February 16 2011 19:53 GMT
#10188
On February 17 2011 03:19 GP wrote:
this is exactly how I see iNcontroL: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm


Hahaha omg this is perfect
SpartanERK
Profile Joined December 2010
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 19:57:36
February 16 2011 19:55 GMT
#10189
Maybe it's just because I come from politics (where calling a guy a Satan/Stalin/Hitler Hybrid is par for the course), but it seems silly to get upset at InControL, IdrA, or TB for any of what was said.

Pretty much all of what has happened is available to the public, so if it really concerns you do your own searches and draw your own conclusions. Personally I can see how people would get mad, especially with miscommunication and confusion, but I don't think anyone has done anything here that's unforgivable or especially terrible.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 16 2011 19:59 GMT
#10190
On February 17 2011 04:53 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 03:19 GP wrote:
this is exactly how I see iNcontroL: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/evilclown.htm


Hahaha omg this is perfect

lol! That fits Geoff well. Now I'm going to spend 30 minutes reading all of these...
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ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
February 16 2011 20:04 GMT
#10191
On February 17 2011 04:25 iNcontroL wrote:
This is so good. I go on and on about how few eu zergs there are in morrows defense and everyone is bitching lol. We also said he did amazing but hid zvz is bad. He would most likely agree. I dunno. Thought I'd give you guys a chance to not be dumb.

As I said earlier: talking about tb without having the full story was my bad. You guys can complain if you like. Cya next week when you listen to our show anyways

Ok look, 10 people on a forum is not everyone. Anyone with half a brain understands your view on Morrow having no zergs to practice with, which obviously shows. And the TB thing is understandable because WHY would he post that on his twitter right after he got denied to cast?

Sure it may be a coincidence, but these whiners not understanding why people would see a correlation between the two is just them being ignorant. The people complaining are just the few folks that take things too seriously, you know those kind of people.

Please don't let this effect your humor on SoTG, it's golden and is always the highlight of the show. Looking forward to the next one.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 16 2011 20:06 GMT
#10192
On February 17 2011 04:49 Yusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 04:26 Logros wrote:
On February 17 2011 04:16 Yusername wrote:
Mocking MorroW for losing 3-1 to Ret in a ZvZ finals, roughly 4 months after he switched his race... and TB for getting upset about the people at Assembly screwing him over. GJ, guys! You sure don't look like a bunch of morons after this podcast. JP, you're a great guy, but get your fucking facts straight before talking to a live audience about someone's career decisions.

BTW, I used to be an Idra fan, but his unfounded hate towards MorroW is really fucking annoying. I actually think MorroW has greater potential as a Zerg player than IdrA does. Really hope he faces IdrA in a prestigious LAN tourney soon and shuts him up for good.


Were you even listening? They said he was a great player.

Sheth said he was a great player. Incontrol too, before he started to make fun of his oh-so-terrible-god-awful ZvZ. IdrA was just bashing him, as usual. He really seems to hate the guy, which I find disturbing, since MorroW's always been nice and polite to IdrA.

I'm almost fine with Incontrol's mocking, though, since he defended MorroW by mentioning there aren't many Zergs to practice against in Europe.


It seems that Idra is still butt hurt from the 5rax reaper pwnage MorroW laid on him. So naturally Idra thinks of him of a terran scrub that cheated him out of his rightful IEM title by abusing the noob race - like anyone who used something that could beat a 14 hatch back these days.
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 16 2011 20:06 GMT
#10193
kinda funny how totalbiscuit is getting all butthurt because he was completely incompetent at assembly winter 10/10 troll incontrol/idra
Callanish
Profile Joined October 2010
249 Posts
February 16 2011 20:07 GMT
#10194
On February 17 2011 04:42 Uniden wrote:
Oh man, this sotg was soo good, especially the riffing on TB.

I mean, I know its not factually correct, but the drama and butthurt that always ensues when TB is criticised is so beautiful. Idra + Geoff confirmed for most incredible trolls.

Also I'm so happy to finally hear Geoff say what everyone already knows about Husky.
Ive been trying to explain how poor his casting is to my friends for a while (as if the fact they are still in gold and I'm in diamond isn't proof enough).
In defense of TB, at least his casts are exciting to watch because of his great casting voice.... whereas husky... oh dear god.... just nothing there of any value what-so-ever.

OMG, are you the Uniden??!!

Anyway, Husky hasn't got like 300000 subscribers because he sucks. He is entertaining and funny, and he makes new people want to learn more about starcraft. Anyone who does that shouldn't be frowned upon.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#10195
On February 17 2011 05:06 AnotherEon wrote:
kinda funny how totalbiscuit is getting all butthurt because he was completely incompetent at assembly winter 10/10 troll incontrol/idra


how was he incompetent?

he gets asked to cast a tournament and doesn't get invited into several games he had a confirmation on...


TB is just getting as butthurt as incontrol always gets when people talk shit about him on the forums
Kevmeister @ Dota2
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 20:11:22
February 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#10196
On February 17 2011 04:25 iNcontroL wrote:
You guys can complain if you like. Cya next week when you listen to our show anyways


For some reason that comment rubs me the wrong way. It almost comes off as you taking your popularity/success/fans for granted. Sure hope that isn't the case....
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#10197
SOTG just keeps getting better and better. First it was the show. Then it was the show and preshow. Now it's the show, preshow and after party(people bitching in this thread) and the after party just keeps going for days. I love SOTG :D
Do you really want chat rooms?
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 16 2011 20:11 GMT
#10198
On February 17 2011 05:07 Callanish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 04:42 Uniden wrote:
Oh man, this sotg was soo good, especially the riffing on TB.

I mean, I know its not factually correct, but the drama and butthurt that always ensues when TB is criticised is so beautiful. Idra + Geoff confirmed for most incredible trolls.

Also I'm so happy to finally hear Geoff say what everyone already knows about Husky.
Ive been trying to explain how poor his casting is to my friends for a while (as if the fact they are still in gold and I'm in diamond isn't proof enough).
In defense of TB, at least his casts are exciting to watch because of his great casting voice.... whereas husky... oh dear god.... just nothing there of any value what-so-ever.

OMG, are you the Uniden??!!

Anyway, Husky hasn't got like 300000 subscribers because he sucks. He is entertaining and funny, and he makes new people want to learn more about starcraft. Anyone who does that shouldn't be frowned upon.


Likewise, TotalBiscuit doesn't have 240000 subscribers because he sucks. He is a great guy, and gets a lot of WoW players interested in SC2.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#10199
On February 17 2011 05:10 RevRich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 04:25 iNcontroL wrote:
You guys can complain if you like. Cya next week when you listen to our show anyways


For some reason that comment rubs me the wrong way. It almost comes off as you taking your popularity/success/fans for granted. Sure hope that isn't the case....


You better listen to their show...or somebody else will!
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 20:14:40
February 16 2011 20:14 GMT
#10200
On February 17 2011 05:10 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 05:06 AnotherEon wrote:
kinda funny how totalbiscuit is getting all butthurt because he was completely incompetent at assembly winter 10/10 troll incontrol/idra


how was he incompetent?

he gets asked to cast a tournament and doesn't get invited into several games he had a confirmation on...


TB is just getting as butthurt as incontrol always gets when people talk shit about him on the forums

he completely failed to cast any games and tried to steal viewers from the onsite casters+streamers and when they said no he threw all the toys out of the pram and gave up. thats like the definition of childish and incompetence

Tbh i wish totalbiscuit would just quit completely :p guess some people like listening to clueless idiots ramble on while watching sc2
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