• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:36
CEST 03:36
KST 10:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)76ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo33Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11203 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2674

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2672 2673 2674 2675 2676 2731 Next
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 25 2013 22:04 GMT
#53461
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28531 Posts
April 25 2013 22:06 GMT
#53462
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 25 2013 22:07 GMT
#53463
On April 26 2013 07:06 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?

what else do you expect then?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 25 2013 22:07 GMT
#53464
On April 26 2013 07:06 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?


im just asking what u think that they should do/say since you asked why not. the qualifiers are set at this point.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 25 2013 22:07 GMT
#53465
On April 26 2013 06:58 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:54 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i now know the meaning of the word "agile".


It's a combination software development and marketing/business term. I'm not sure which one they're using here.

However, he's right in that Blizzard is not generally considered "agile". But they're improving in that sense, if it only took 10 minutes from MLG contact to PhysicsLee getting banned.

Agile is a word in English too. Though it comes directly from french, it is transparent. Synonyms are nimble and lithe.

I like your sense of humor...or I think I do.
Who dat ninja?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17651 Posts
April 25 2013 22:08 GMT
#53466
where are all the Blizzard apologists who claimed all the WCS problems were the fault of MLG, ESL and GomTV.
And, none of these problems were Blizzard's fault.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
meetle
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia276 Posts
April 25 2013 22:08 GMT
#53467
Why are we not talking about how stupid the non-compete bullshit is? 10k max for each tourny? Does anyone have more details?
Polt|NaNiwa|HuK|Ret|Destiny|mOOnGLaDe|IdrA|Jinro|NonY
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#53468
On April 26 2013 07:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
where are all the Blizzard apologists who claimed all the WCS problems were the fault of MLG, ESL and GomTV.
And, none of these problems were Blizzard's fault.


From the sounds of it Blizzard just handed NA & EU WCS off to their partners and let them do whatever they wanted.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#53469
On April 26 2013 07:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
where are all the Blizzard apologists who claimed all the WCS problems were the fault of MLG, ESL and GomTV.
And, none of these problems were Blizzard's fault.

i just think that this is what blizzard has to say atm. i really don't think it was their fault. even though i must admit it is a good move to protect mlg after the community shit on them so much.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28531 Posts
April 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#53470
On April 26 2013 07:07 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:06 Penev wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?

what else do you expect then?

Geez, it seems you missed some threads concerning the topic. There is a lot that they can do. For instance the Comm situation: Have him play his match against Apocalypse.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 25 2013 22:09 GMT
#53471
On April 26 2013 07:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
where are all the Blizzard apologists who claimed all the WCS problems were the fault of MLG, ESL and GomTV.
And, none of these problems were Blizzard's fault.


MLG fucked up. ESL did less so. GomTV was the model for the whole damn thing.

But the buck stops on Blizzard's desk, since they are the driving force and IP owner.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 25 2013 22:10 GMT
#53472
On April 26 2013 07:08 meetle wrote:
Why are we not talking about how stupid the non-compete bullshit is? 10k max for each tourny? Does anyone have more details?



above 10k prize pool is considered a major event.

in communist blizzard, dont compete with tourney, tourney will be provided.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 25 2013 22:10 GMT
#53473
On April 26 2013 07:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
where are all the Blizzard apologists who claimed all the WCS problems were the fault of MLG, ESL and GomTV.
And, none of these problems were Blizzard's fault.


Yo blizzard stopped supporting esports like you said right?

Good state of the game enjoyed it so far.
When I think of something else, something will go here
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 25 2013 22:10 GMT
#53474
On April 26 2013 07:03 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:58 Otolia wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:54 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i now know the meaning of the word "agile".


It's a combination software development and marketing/business term. I'm not sure which one they're using here.

However, he's right in that Blizzard is not generally considered "agile". But they're improving in that sense, if it only took 10 minutes from MLG contact to PhysicsLee getting banned.

Agile is a word in English too. Though it comes directly from french, it is transparent. Synonyms are nimble and lithe.


Yes, I'm aware, I'm a native English speaker. This is how I know that it has several different meanings, depending on the context and environment used.


Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:57 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:54 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i now know the meaning of the word "agile".


It's a combination software development and marketing/business term. I'm not sure which one they're using here.

However, he's right in that Blizzard is not generally considered "agile". But they're improving in that sense, if it only took 10 minutes from MLG contact to PhysicsLee getting banned.


you and i both know the only reason that guy got banned so fast is because of the shitstorm he caused by playing in WCS NA. there is tons of hackers on bnet and they takes weeks and months for blizzard to even do anything about.


Yes, but they took action quickly once they were pointed in the right direction - you can't expect omniscient action by Blizz helpdesk. What I am concerned more about is why did MLG take so damn long to bring it to their attention and LET HIM KEEP PLAYING in the meantime?


i do not expect MLG to keep track of hackers in starcraft 2. it is blizzard's game and they should be the ones who track that. there have been enough allegations or rumours that this guy was a hacker well before WCS NA, blizzard should be the one who looks into that.

i think the problem is more that the organizers and blizzard do not have enough knowledge/connections with the player scene, and that this qualifier was rushed as hell.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
April 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#53475
On April 26 2013 07:01 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 06:53 Exarl25 wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:48 Mauldo wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:43 Exarl25 wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:38 Mauldo wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:36 Exarl25 wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:34 Mauldo wrote:
I'm sad that TB didn't hold him to explaining why Blizzard says it's committed to region growth but at the same time allows Koreans to come in and completely rape and pillage the WCS NA scene. Korean pillaging =/= NA scene growth

At least the Blizzard rep is holding strong and coming up with legit-enough answers. If it was just a repeat of the MLG-non-apology I'd have finally committed and switched to DOTA 2.


Holy fucking shit, the Koreans are getting screwed over just as bad. Why the hell is no one speaking up for them? Acting like they are rolling in stolen cash when the vast majority of them are simply slaving away in team houses all day for nothing.


So NA doesn't deserve a scene? We can't grow a scene with teamhouses and economic foundation ourselves if we keep sacrificing our scene to our Koreans overlords.


I swear to god, is there anyone who actually reads what I'm saying rather than jumping to wild fucking conclusions and putting words in my mouth?


1) Calm the fuck down dude.

2) I'm just going to walk you through what you said to me, even though I definitely didn't post a word in your general direction.

2a) I said that NA needs a way to grow its player base. Allowing Koreans to come in and pillage our tourney is not how you do so (TB made the point literally 5 minutes after I posted).

2b) You said, and I quote, "Holy fucking shit, the Koreans are getting screwed over just as bad....Acting like they are rolling in stolen cash..." That implies that you think you deserve to take the money from the NA scene, most specifically WCS NA, because they're awesome and they're SC2 gods and they deserve all of our money.

2c) I respond with "So how are we to make any money?"

2d) You respond with "I never said that!"

Only, you did. I say that they shouldn't be allowed in the WCS NA tourney, and you say they should be because they're awesome and work harder than we do.


And this is what I mean by jumping to wild conclusions and putting words in my mouth. No I never said they should be allowed in WCS NA. No I never said they deserve all of the money. No I never said the NA scene should lose money.

WCS NA can be region locked with a respectable prize pool. Fine. However with the new system Korea now has less tournaments and less money going around than it did last year. Coupled with the flood of Kespa players raising the bar of competition even higher. Korea is getting screwed here but all of the focus is on NA and the proposed solutions would screw Korea over even more.


It's because the NA scene was already bleeding and dying before this, and this "attempt" to save it on behalf of Blizzard was really just a way to attract even more Koreans. You're angry that Korea is fucked hard by WCS KR, thats cool. Everyone acknowledges that. But right now people want to save the NA scene from dying, which it undoubtedly will after no Americans make the Ro16, and best case scenario are relegated to the Challenger league if any league at all.

I don't think you'll find a single person who thinks Korea didn't get fucked. But NA has been dying for years, and with stuff such as the Open Bracket being taken away from MLG, IPL dead, and NASL being all but shut out of tourneys NA doesn't have much hope. At least KR still has GSL, Proleague, and GSTL. The Americas only have WCS NA now, and that's going to quickly become WCS East Korea.


You are acting like it's all sunshine and rainbows in Korea and this is just a minor setback. NA is in trouble yes I acknowledged that but it's possible to fix that without screwing Korea over even harder. Korea still has GSL? No they don't, it's rebranded as WCS and there are only 2 of them this year as opposed to 5 + Blizzard cup last year, and WCS on top of that. Proleague and GSTL don't bring in much money for individual players. Foreign pros are wealthier in general, getting actual salaries and have a much easier time getting stream viewers for additional income.

All the focus is on NA and no one is stopping to think about how all this will affect Korea. Don't even pretend you were taking them into account here because you weren't. This perception that they are all swimming around in stolen foreign money is absurd.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 22:12:44
April 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#53476
On April 26 2013 07:09 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:06 Penev wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?

what else do you expect then?

Geez, it seems you missed some threads concerning the topic. There is a lot that they can do. For instance the Comm situation: Have him play his match against Apocalypse.

ye as you said we had it already and it would be bad for apocalypse who thinks he is already qualified. this shit can only get bigger now if you try to fix it somehow. you need to move on and focus on not making this happen again
e: and also comm dq for not following the rules so he has no chance here. even though i can understand him breaking the rules after this fail by the admins.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 25 2013 22:14 GMT
#53477
On April 26 2013 07:10 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:03 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:58 Otolia wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:54 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i now know the meaning of the word "agile".


It's a combination software development and marketing/business term. I'm not sure which one they're using here.

However, he's right in that Blizzard is not generally considered "agile". But they're improving in that sense, if it only took 10 minutes from MLG contact to PhysicsLee getting banned.

Agile is a word in English too. Though it comes directly from french, it is transparent. Synonyms are nimble and lithe.


Yes, I'm aware, I'm a native English speaker. This is how I know that it has several different meanings, depending on the context and environment used.


On April 26 2013 06:57 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:54 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 26 2013 06:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i now know the meaning of the word "agile".


It's a combination software development and marketing/business term. I'm not sure which one they're using here.

However, he's right in that Blizzard is not generally considered "agile". But they're improving in that sense, if it only took 10 minutes from MLG contact to PhysicsLee getting banned.


you and i both know the only reason that guy got banned so fast is because of the shitstorm he caused by playing in WCS NA. there is tons of hackers on bnet and they takes weeks and months for blizzard to even do anything about.


Yes, but they took action quickly once they were pointed in the right direction - you can't expect omniscient action by Blizz helpdesk. What I am concerned more about is why did MLG take so damn long to bring it to their attention and LET HIM KEEP PLAYING in the meantime?


i do not expect MLG to keep track of hackers in starcraft 2. it is blizzard's game and they should be the ones who track that. there have been enough allegations or rumours that this guy was a hacker well before WCS NA, blizzard should be the one who looks into that.

i think the problem is more that the organizers and blizzard do not have enough knowledge/connections with the player scene, and that this qualifier was rushed as hell.


I agree somewhat, but Blizzard cannot monitor all players and account holders all the time. And players have been known to ragequit then report to Blizzard for stupid reasons - so yes, they should track hackers/cheaters and ban when they become aware of it. But MLG as a tournament runner, should also try to vet players better, or at least deal more quickly with issues that are raised to them by players and community. Rushed qualifier I would have to say may have had a lot to do with it.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17737 Posts
April 25 2013 22:15 GMT
#53478
GSL/GSTL has VODs...so many hosts seem to not know about this
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 25 2013 22:15 GMT
#53479
On April 26 2013 06:43 StarVe wrote:
ESL and MLG confirmed exclusive partners for 2014, too.


nooooooo
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 25 2013 22:15 GMT
#53480
On April 26 2013 07:09 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 07:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:06 Penev wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:04 zev318 wrote:
On April 26 2013 07:02 Penev wrote:
Hmm, I expected more specific questions about the American qualifier. Just a quick summary from JP that got dodged. "There's nothing more we can do for the Chinese at this point". Why not?


do u want them to re-run the whole tourney? what do they do with the qualified players if they did? or do they maybe kick out some of the koreans to put them in there?

No. What makes you think that?

what else do you expect then?

Geez, it seems you missed some threads concerning the topic. There is a lot that they can do. For instance the Comm situation: Have him play his match against Apocalypse.


why would they do that? he got DQ'd for breaking their rules. mlg has stated that (whether you like it or not), that comm missed the 512 player limit cut off. and he chose to play under another player who did make the cut off. if anything, you should be crying for the people who comm did beat.
Prev 1 2672 2673 2674 2675 2676 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft700
ViBE191
Ketroc 33
FoxeR 26
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 41
Terrorterran 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm144
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift11676
JimRising 477
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe145
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
summit1g16251
JuggernautJason56
UpATreeSC45
Mew2King44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1535
BasetradeTV232
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21106
Upcoming Events
Douyu Cup 2020
4h 24m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
12h 24m
Mihu vs TBD
Online Event
13h 24m
RSL Revival
1d
WardiTV Weekly
1d 9h
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Bombastic Starleague
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
Maestros of the Game 2
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.