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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 22 2013 04:06 GMT
#52321
Last couple episodes have been some of the best ever
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
February 22 2013 04:22 GMT
#52322
MC barely avoiding the curse
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 04:33:48
February 22 2013 04:32 GMT
#52323
LOL I knew the mass hellion contain was bullshit. Never seen that on stream either :D
Well at least it doesn't seem like the most powerful shit Terran can do either.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
February 22 2013 04:37 GMT
#52324
Hellbats are fine. Zerg has just had it too easy and now they want to be OP again.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#52325
Feels like Catz is just whining without really saying anything constructive. The way he is comparing the Hellbat directly to the Roach reminds me of the Stalker/Marauder comparisons in the WoL beta. Stalker costs more but loses the 1v1 fight etc. It's just a huge oversimplification. Not that I think Hellbats are fine in their current form but this just sounds like venting.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 22 2013 04:47 GMT
#52326
I'm Terran, and if I can only name one concern toward the hellbat, it's that it completely negates the only mineral dumping zerg unit.
In WoL, every mineral only unit is somewhat viable in all compositions at all times: you can always make marines (obviously :D), you can always make zealots (lategame in PvT, those 20 zealot warpins are powerful, and you can warp prism drop with them in PvZ), and you can pretty much always refill your max in zerglings after you break the enemy lines with your hive tech army or whatever.
In HotS, it takes a couple of hellbats (almost litterally 2 of them :D) to kill an ungodly amount of speedlings, whatever the upgrades.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 22 2013 04:55 GMT
#52327
qxc is so biased seriously I can't believe he is serious when he talks about drones not being picked off by reapers or admitting hellbat is broken in tvz right now
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 04:57:02
February 22 2013 04:56 GMT
#52328
Zerg might actually be REQUIRED to drone scout?
Holy shit, that's so unfair, they should only need to use overlords!
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 22 2013 04:56 GMT
#52329
God forbid Zerg can't easily shut down any early pressure. It was the continuous nerfing of anything that made Zerg uncomfortable early game that fucked up WoL. CatZ is frustrated guys, let him drone in peace.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#52330
qxc should go into politics when his career in Starcraft is over. He concedes absolutely nothing but I'm pretty sure he knows he's wrong.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 22 2013 05:01 GMT
#52331
I feel qxc trying to justify how Hellbats are by comparing them to zealots and roaches is kinda off.
We all know the basic process of creating hellbat was " let's give terran a meatshield with mech by making hellion into big stompy robot that kill zealots and lings without the kitting micro requiered "

There's no " hellbat have 2 less range than roaches so we have to give them splash"
That's not how Blizzard do things lol.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 22 2013 05:04 GMT
#52332
On February 22 2013 14:01 Noocta wrote:
I feel qxc trying to justify how Hellbats are by comparing them to zealots and roaches is kinda off.
We all know the basic process of creating hellbat was " let's give terran a meatshield with mech by making hellion into big stompy robot that kill zealots and lings without the kitting micro requiered "

There's no " hellbat have 2 less range than roaches so we have to give them splash"
That's not how Blizzard do things lol.

I absolutely agree with this. Had the Hellbat existed at the beginning of WoL design, I could agree with qxc, but with everything added, it's an "equality" mess right now. For example, all races have 2 detectors in WoL etc.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
February 22 2013 05:05 GMT
#52333
What the fuck is CatZ talking about. Thors beating Broodlords?

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 22 2013 05:09 GMT
#52334
On February 22 2013 14:05 Gamegene wrote:
What the fuck is CatZ talking about. Thors beating Broodlords?


I guess the new, crazy range Thor thingy? I don't know, I haven't seen/tested it.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11385 Posts
February 22 2013 05:11 GMT
#52335
Well I feel vindicated based on Artosis' thoughts on warhound as basically bio.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 22 2013 05:12 GMT
#52336
On February 22 2013 14:11 Falling wrote:
Well I feel vindicated based on Artosis' thoughts on warhound as basically bio.

It was not healed by medivacs though.
Imagine that. Try it.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 05:16:21
February 22 2013 05:13 GMT
#52337
I think it's kind of funny that everyone's so worried about TvZ and no one gives a damn about Protoss. Sounds kind of like the last year of WoL.

EDIT: Nevermind, they're getting there.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 05:17:18
February 22 2013 05:16 GMT
#52338
On February 22 2013 14:13 AgentW wrote:
I think it's kind of funny that everyone's so worried about TvZ and no one gives a damn about Protoss. Sounds kind of like the last year of WoL.


To be fair, I think this was done intentionally (on JP/CatZ's part) because of the episode that focused purely on PvP, PvZ, and PvT a few weeks ago.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
February 22 2013 05:17 GMT
#52339
On February 22 2013 14:13 AgentW wrote:
I think it's kind of funny that everyone's so worried about TvZ and no one gives a damn about Protoss. Sounds kind of like the last year of WoL.

EDIT: Nevermind, they're getting there.


Nice edit
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 22 2013 05:18 GMT
#52340
On February 22 2013 13:57 AgentW wrote:
qxc should go into politics when his career in Starcraft is over. He concedes absolutely nothing but I'm pretty sure he knows he's wrong.

Yeah its the only thing about qxc that pisses me off. But he usually has good discussion apart from that
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