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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
October 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#50381
UI changes like multi-person replay viewing, real chat channels, cross server play without massive lag.

These are all cost cutting manuvers that allow for more revenue for the company through different avenues. If they have replay viewing and chat channels in HOTS or the final chapter they have improved the basic game and get more people to buy copies. The same thing happens with preventing cross-server play. They would actually have to have more servers to provide a decent gameplay experience and they also allowed a loophole where you could buy an EU or Asia copy which gives them 2 extra game sales. All about the money.

The same thing applies when as a company they decide to release the game in 3 parts before they even release the first game. They want $140 (i think it is $40 per exp) for the entire SC2 experience. For SC vanilla and BW you got a full campaign in each title and access to online play.

Now, they have this HOTS beta coming out, but they keep downgrading the game over and over again and new units won't change that. There aren't the abilities to pressure your opponent consistantly thoughout the whole game without a simple mistake losing an entire army. Broodwar had an progression of gameplay that made every moment exciting. Take a TvZ for example:
Zerg pressures with early lings to test the defense of terran.
Zerg then pressures with mutas while terran defends with turrets and marines it is a constant battle until the marine numbers get high enough.
Now, terran gets to pressure zerg's bases with MM balls attempting to enter through means of dropship, vessels killing lurkers and defilers, or brute force runbys.
Now, zerg can turn the pressure back they have ultralisks they tear through small MM balls backed by lings and defilers.

The game just plays instead of sitting on an army, move out, die or win. And even if SC2 basic had the ability to evolve into a better game Blizzard will keep taking away that ability with every expansion and patch.

ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
October 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#50382
QXC's concerns are hilarious since there have actually been very few broadcast matches. I think we actually want much more to watch each week.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#50383
On October 19 2012 06:29 Noocta wrote:
The fact that it's 2 games per match is really frustrating too
What's the fucking point of a serie finishing in a 1-1 ?


it's because of lag. they play one game on each server (i.e. if it's euro vs korea there's one game on europe and one game on korea).

so i guess if the skill difference isn't massive, most matches should end in 1-1
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#50384
On October 19 2012 06:33 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 06:29 Noocta wrote:
The fact that it's 2 games per match is really frustrating too
What's the fucking point of a serie finishing in a 1-1 ?


it's because of lag. they play one game on each server (i.e. if it's euro vs korea there's one game on europe and one game on korea).

so i guess if the skill difference isn't massive, most matches should end in 1-1


It doesn't help building hype around the matches imo.
It's more about the overall map score at the end then, and it's.. weird.
I dunno, the hype is hard to build with a format like that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#50385
On October 19 2012 06:18 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 06:15 Plansix wrote:
On October 19 2012 06:13 enemy2010 wrote:
Why not outsource coding? Hire people from the community to help code and work over BattleNet.


Um...computer programing is hard and not exciting. Also the people who do it are very skilled and demand to be paid for that skill. They don't work for free and crowd sourcing your network coding is a terrible idea.

Did I say "release the code to the masses"? No.
Did I say "make them work for free"? No.

Hire people from the community that actually know the game and know and understand the flaws.


I am sure Blizzard has hired enough people to do what they need to do. But when you are making something, you can never have enough people and even when you have enough, they only have so many man hours in a week. It won't happen instantly, but nothing worth doing ever does.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
October 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#50386
New hosts are doing great, glad to see the show back! Keep up the good work JP
EntDreamin
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand45 Posts
October 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#50387
Well, the interesting part of the show is over so I'm off.

Loved the show! QXC and Apollo are excellent. Hope to see them again.
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
October 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#50388
I stoped watching SOTG a long time ago, because it was all fluff and no "state of the game". This episode restored a bit of my faith for JP's show, gj.

Also, when will ppl understand the problem is not on the 10$ for a PPV stream, the problem is that most ppl (video game stream watchers) dont have a way to pay for it, credit card etc..
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 21:40:51
October 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#50389
even on sotg, slashers mic and webcam suck

everyone says they dont know where arthur and brown are going, but we all know if either of them win NASL EG will buy them.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#50390
On October 19 2012 06:36 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 06:33 Schelim wrote:
On October 19 2012 06:29 Noocta wrote:
The fact that it's 2 games per match is really frustrating too
What's the fucking point of a serie finishing in a 1-1 ?


it's because of lag. they play one game on each server (i.e. if it's euro vs korea there's one game on europe and one game on korea).

so i guess if the skill difference isn't massive, most matches should end in 1-1


It doesn't help building hype around the matches imo.
It's more about the overall map score at the end then, and it's.. weird.
I dunno, the hype is hard to build with a format like that.


i agree, but how would you make it fair otherwise? whoever gets to play game 3 on his server has a huge advantage.

but yeah the entire format is horrible.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 18 2012 21:39 GMT
#50391
jackass
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
October 18 2012 21:40 GMT
#50392
Donkey???? :D hahahahah
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 18 2012 21:40 GMT
#50393
Hahahaha ''donkey'''. Enjoying it so far.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 18 2012 21:40 GMT
#50394
On October 19 2012 06:27 gh0stsquall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 06:26 mememolly wrote:
get Morrow on



morrow would be an amazing fit for this panel.


yes, morrow would be a perfect addition.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
October 18 2012 21:40 GMT
#50395
The show was great until slasher came on. Don't make him a regular on this show, he belongs to other shows.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2012 21:41 GMT
#50396
Oh hey we're back to State of the Drama (with special drama expert Slasher) now.

Oh well, the first part of the show was very good, qxc is a boss.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
October 18 2012 21:41 GMT
#50397
Just want to say the show is awesome, will tune in every week . Really like the no drama, and mature and respectful discussions. Please don't switch times every week if possible.
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
October 18 2012 21:43 GMT
#50398
I'm so quittin this thread before the Slayers drama start here too.... just want to say that the new hosts are doing great. I'm having a great time.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 18 2012 21:43 GMT
#50399
This SlayerS segment, JP is being unprofessional as fuck.

Show was going so great up till now too.
secret - never again
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 18 2012 21:44 GMT
#50400
blah blah blah... Slayers disbanded, it's kinda sad, why do we have to dissect every fuckin detail again?

move on to something else please... have been enjoying the show a lot up to now though!
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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