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On July 01 2012 17:32 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:20 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Either you have the skin of a 10 year old girl or you get bullied yourself to take this small incident so personal. So personal you want to contact these guys sponsors which is absurd. These guys have already apologized in their own way but it doesnt seem to be enough for you guys, that is ridiculous to me. Next thing i am going to read is some of you nerds want them crucified and starved for a week for saying fuck you. I would not be surprised by that with all this overreaction and melodrama. Holy shit for the 15th time I dont want to contact any sponsors I was responding to someone else. I think this is a trivial issue to contact sponsors over, Idra is Idra, and Geoff has always been a hypocrite and a bully so I'm not sure why people are surprised when occasionally that side of him shows. I actually like Scoots, he is really good on LO3 and I've enjoyed some of the interviews he has done, I still think it is kind of silly for him to respond to a reasonably worded tweet in the way that he did, what was the point?
I would guess that they are all getting bored of the overreactions and drama that are happening on a weekly basis these days so he was mocking these overreactions by saying you should do more. Whats the point of overreacting if you dont go all out. I would asume.at least thats how i read it.
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Chill the fuck out guys.
Idra can tell someone to STFU.
InControl talk about people's assholes.
People can complain on forums.
People can contact sponsors.
People can contact a player's manager.
Sponsors can choose to not be associated with players.
Sponsors can choose to not give a shit.
It's called America people. Jesus Fucking Christ.
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how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic.
quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on):
Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk.
to this..
That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed.
Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example:
yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game.
HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams.
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On July 01 2012 17:40 Dustus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:32 Duravi wrote:On July 01 2012 17:20 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Either you have the skin of a 10 year old girl or you get bullied yourself to take this small incident so personal. So personal you want to contact these guys sponsors which is absurd. These guys have already apologized in their own way but it doesnt seem to be enough for you guys, that is ridiculous to me. Next thing i am going to read is some of you nerds want them crucified and starved for a week for saying fuck you. I would not be surprised by that with all this overreaction and melodrama. Holy shit for the 15th time I dont want to contact any sponsors I was responding to someone else. I think this is a trivial issue to contact sponsors over, Idra is Idra, and Geoff has always been a hypocrite and a bully so I'm not sure why people are surprised when occasionally that side of him shows. I actually like Scoots, he is really good on LO3 and I've enjoyed some of the interviews he has done, I still think it is kind of silly for him to respond to a reasonably worded tweet in the way that he did, what was the point? I would guess that they are all getting bored of the overreactions and drama that are happening on a weekly basis these days so he was mocking these overreactions by saying you should do more. Whats the point of overreacting if you dont go all out. I would asume.at least thats how i read it.
You know what the easiest way to eliminate drama is? Professional sports players (well, most of them at least) figured this out decades ago. Just act professional when you are in public. Case closed.
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just gonna leave this here:
avilo complained throughout the entire game last game vs fitzy and then went afk before the game was over, tvz imbalanced. his upgrades? 0-0
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On July 01 2012 17:32 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:20 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Either you have the skin of a 10 year old girl or you get bullied yourself to take this small incident so personal. So personal you want to contact these guys sponsors which is absurd. These guys have already apologized in their own way but it doesnt seem to be enough for you guys, that is ridiculous to me. Next thing i am going to read is some of you nerds want them crucified and starved for a week for saying fuck you. I would not be surprised by that with all this overreaction and melodrama. Holy shit for the 15th time I dont want to contact any sponsors I was responding to someone else. I think this is a trivial issue to contact sponsors over, Idra is Idra, and Geoff has always been a hypocrite and a bully so I'm not sure why people are surprised when occasionally that side of him shows. I actually like Scoots, he is really good on LO3 and I've enjoyed some of the interviews he has done, I still think it is kind of silly for him to respond to a reasonably worded tweet in the way that he did, what was the point?
Well, maybe he feels the same way i feel about all this unnecessary drama and overreaction. And another thing would be from taking a good look at past experiences of "fans" thinking they own these teams, demanding things, and in the end get them like spoiled brats. Maybe he had enough of these kinda whiners and is setting an example? who knows. In the end of the day most of these guys who go through all this trouble are and were never EG supporters so it doesnt matter. So he is going to cause drama amongst his players over these kinda people? He could have talked about sunshines and rainbows in a response and told him it was going to be okay and that he will go and tuck him in tonight, but after that he will still not like EG.
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On July 01 2012 17:43 xOny wrote:how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic. quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on): Show nested quote +Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk. to this.. Show nested quote +That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed. Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example: Show nested quote +yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams.
wow. So you think their treatment of artosis is equivalent of doing the same to someone they criticize and hate? You can't be this out of touch with reality.
Just because I call my friends racial slurs on a joking basis when we meet up doesn't mean I go out and do the same to someone I met on the first day, or do someone I dislike. That is suicidal not only to my jobs but also my reputation.
And realize saying things on a chat is not the same as saying it infront of 10k viewers live on a talk show. It seems like you do not grasp the importance of context.
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On July 01 2012 17:43 xOny wrote:how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic. quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on): Show nested quote +Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk. to this.. Show nested quote +That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed. Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example: Show nested quote +yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams.
Let's all go and contact Avilo's team owner on how disrespectful he was and demand he gets kicked or else. All the cool kids are doing it.
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On July 01 2012 14:09 Ireniicus wrote:
I contacted SirScoots to the affect I would not watch the latest EG mastercup because of the last SOTG antics. As you can imagine he was unrepentant advised I should just unfollow all EG, which is a shame as I quite like listening to the guy on Lo3
I'm not surprised, it's pretty ridiculous to boycott EG events over this.
I'm the first one to say Incontrol and Idra acted like children, but you're overreacting. Someone said "contact the sponsors". What are you going to do, call Monster and say "I take offense to Idra saying fuck off to another player, and an MLG employee not affiliated with you at all hanging up a Skype call".
Get over yourselves. You can't criticize Idra for overreacting on one hand and then turn around and complain to sponsors about every tiny misbehavior.
Just speak your mind and tell Idra you think his behavior was immature. He is actually reading this thread, and while you won't convince him of anything on the spot, an overwhelming condemnation by the more articulate among us might just make him think.
Massive overreactions and ludicrous threats to contact sponsors just make it easier for Idra and Incontrol to dismiss the community as a bunch of idiots.
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On July 01 2012 17:51 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:43 xOny wrote:how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic. quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on): Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk. to this.. That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed. Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example: yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams. wow. So you think their treatment of artosis is equivalent of doing the same to someone they criticize and hate? You can't be this out of touch with reality. Just because I call my friends racial slurs on a joking basis when we meet up doesn't mean I go out and do the same to someone I met on the first day, or do someone I dislike. That is suicidal not only to my jobs but also my reputation. And realize saying things on a chat is not the same as saying it infront of 10k viewers. It seems like you do not grasp the importance of context.
they criticize him because he said shit like
yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game.
on his twitter beforehand.
you have made tons of posts in this thread trying to make Avilo look like the victim here.. he's not. get over it and settle down imo.
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On July 01 2012 17:56 xOny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:51 iky43210 wrote:On July 01 2012 17:43 xOny wrote:how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic. quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on): Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk. to this.. That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed. Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example: yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams. wow. So you think their treatment of artosis is equivalent of doing the same to someone they criticize and hate? You can't be this out of touch with reality. Just because I call my friends racial slurs on a joking basis when we meet up doesn't mean I go out and do the same to someone I met on the first day, or do someone I dislike. That is suicidal not only to my jobs but also my reputation. And realize saying things on a chat is not the same as saying it infront of 10k viewers. It seems like you do not grasp the importance of context. they criticize him because he said shit like Show nested quote +yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. on his twitter beforehand. you have made tons of posts in this thread trying to make Avilo look like the victim here.. he's not. get over it and settle down imo.
criticize him in a proper manner or offline. Not in terms of group bashing and ignoring things when he said. If you're not going to listen to him, don't invite him to your talk show. Inviting someone to a show purely to make fun of them in front of 10k live viewers is not the same as what you are trying to suggest.
Do you see avilo criticizing them in a unproper manner during the show on air or lash out when he was being made fun of? no? he acted in the proper manner infront of 10k viewers, no matter if his argument was articulated or not.
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Every time I saw Avilo's stream he was wearing a 'fuck protoss' beanie and insulting any protoss he plays calling them 'faggots' and all sorts of other shit. Then he would go on TL and look at posts of people disagreeing with him and ridicule them calling them idiots etc. And now people are worried that his feelings may have been hurt? Fuck that. The guy is a total douche and deserved what he got.
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On July 01 2012 17:56 xOny wrote:they criticize him because he said shit like Show nested quote +yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. on his twitter beforehand. you have made tons of posts in this thread trying to make Avilo look like the victim here.. he's not. get over it and settle down imo.
They had been insulting him for two episodes in a row at that point, with Incontrol leading the charge.
Avilo most certainly is the victim, and Geoff/Idra/JP most certainly did act badly.
But this is also not a big deal. People were rude. Everyone told them they were rude. They made half-assed apologies. We're all free to make up our minds about whether we like the people involved or not.
That's really all that needs to happen. No bricks need to be shat.
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On July 01 2012 17:59 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 17:56 xOny wrote:On July 01 2012 17:51 iky43210 wrote:On July 01 2012 17:43 xOny wrote:how the fuck do you people justify calling EG/sponsors? he wasn't even treated that bad compared to how they treat Artosis sometimes. He talked a ton of shit about SOTG for not having a Terran, and then suddenly acts like the victim once he sees the community starting a storm. Pathetic. quote's from his twitter (he talked even more shit about SOTG in this thread when he demanded be on): Come at me SOTG, want to talk about the "State of the Game" then get a Terran on your show otherwise don't talk. to this.. That's how they treat everyone if you are not superstar status or they do not like you/your opinions. Quite disgusting indeed. Oh you were digusted Avilo? Maybe you shouldn't have talked so much fucking shit about SOTG and its hosts.. example: yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. HOW do you people not understand that AVILO is not the victim? he wasn't completely innocent when he got on the call? He had said beforehand things like the above (that iNcontrol is a bad player), and that SOTG is a joke.. this community is pathetic and needs to understand the context of a situation before you contact sponsors/teams. wow. So you think their treatment of artosis is equivalent of doing the same to someone they criticize and hate? You can't be this out of touch with reality. Just because I call my friends racial slurs on a joking basis when we meet up doesn't mean I go out and do the same to someone I met on the first day, or do someone I dislike. That is suicidal not only to my jobs but also my reputation. And realize saying things on a chat is not the same as saying it infront of 10k viewers. It seems like you do not grasp the importance of context. they criticize him because he said shit like yep, well, don't know what's more of a joke. SOTG or incontrol thinking he's any good at this game. on his twitter beforehand. you have made tons of posts in this thread trying to make Avilo look like the victim here.. he's not. get over it and settle down imo. criticize him in a proper manner or offline. Not in terms of group bashing and ignoring things when he said. If you're not going to listen to him, don't invite him to your talk show. Inviting someone to a show purely to make fun of them in front of 10k live viewers is not the same as what you are trying to suggest. Do you see avilo criticizing them in a unproper manner during the show on air or lash out when he was being made fun of? no? he acted in the proper manner infront of 10k viewers, no matter if his argument was articulated or not.
Can you just get over it? Avilo ASKED to be on the show, AFTER calling iNcontrol a bad player? You seem to be trying to make the point of, Avilo is the victim because they brought HIM on the show.. what? Avilo asked to be on the show several times, and the whole community was asking for it to, ofc they are going to do it in that case. The way they treated him wasn't that bad compared to blatantly saying iNcontrol (who takes SC2 very seriously) is a bad player.
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On July 01 2012 18:01 tomatriedes wrote:
Every time I saw Avilo's stream he was wearing a 'fuck protoss' beanie and insulting any protoss he plays calling them 'faggots' and all sorts of other shit. Then he would go on TL and look at posts of people disagreeing with him and ridicule them calling them idiots etc. And now people are worried that his feelings may have been hurt? Fuck that. The guy is a total douche and deserved what he got.
That's the same Idra does but people think that he is some sort of hero...
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Is Battlenet down or something?
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It's times like these where i wish that esport would just die and every butthurt selfproclaimed internethero with it. This discussion.. no..the existence of this discussion just makes me sad.
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On July 01 2012 18:06 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 18:01 tomatriedes wrote:
Every time I saw Avilo's stream he was wearing a 'fuck protoss' beanie and insulting any protoss he plays calling them 'faggots' and all sorts of other shit. Then he would go on TL and look at posts of people disagreeing with him and ridicule them calling them idiots etc. And now people are worried that his feelings may have been hurt? Fuck that. The guy is a total douche and deserved what he got. That's the same Idra does but people think that he is some sort of hero...
Not really. There is a difference. I remember playing Avilo and I didn't even say a word to him and he flamed me all game long just because I was zerg lol. Literally kept saying stupid shit. I put him on block list and I will admit that was awhile ago, but the last few times I have played him I have no idea if he has done it to me as again have him on ignore list.
Idra doesn't play a game and harass his opponent all game long. He may say a whitty comment or something every now and then or call them fuckers if he loses or something, but he doesn't do it all game long nor does he message them after game and flame them either.
Raging after game or saying a sentence is far different then what Avilo does on ladder (I have heard him doing the same thing he did to me, to others).
There is a reason all the pro's that play him on the NA ladder have like no respect for him whatsoever (it isn't just idra/incontrol trust me).
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On July 01 2012 17:40 Defacer wrote:
It's called America people. Jesus Fucking Christ.
rofl
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Yeah that was the finals of my tournament (Space Whales Showdown). I think a lot of people said it was a great game but avilo needed air upgrades and ended up using his gas bank on other things. I feel that Fitzy did a lot of things to distract him, but I think that avilo would have had a chance with upgraded air units. TvZ is hard but in any matchup 2/3 vs 0/0 is not going to work out.
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