EPTif you want to turn the world into a better place, there are many ways to do so, but this is so much overreaction that you lost it completely.
i really like the idra+qxc part btw, good decision to get him on the show.
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
if you want to turn the world into a better place, there are many ways to do so, but this is so much overreaction that you lost it completely. i really like the idra+qxc part btw, good decision to get him on the show. | ||
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bellyfrog
New Zealand72 Posts
From a quick perusal of the thread it's pretty clear why avilo's opinion is not respected but for people who don't read TL/sc2 reddit all the time it was kinda bad at the time. Quite surprised to see such a ridiculous outcry over this though it was a bit of a mishap not the end of the world. | ||
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Venomsflame
United States613 Posts
On July 01 2012 14:50 LeaD wrote: You`re kidding me right? There's plenty of people that want Amare out because he's an idiot. Just because that story is larger and not centered in one location does not mean there weren't people raging out what he did or thinking like you do, that that it was an overreaction. Have you ever heard any New York radio shows? Yeah, I'm sure you keep up with sports. Uhm. What? Do you live in New York? No radio show gives a shit about that stuff for more than a few days and there certainly isn't any outcry over wanting him out. People want Stat out because he plays matador defense and loses control of the ball too often when he drives, not because he hates gays or because of anything he said. So stop acting like there should be a stronger reaction to 5 minutes of a great show and find something more productive to do with your time. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:00 bellyfrog wrote: As a neutral viewer of the show and a casual fan of sc2 I was kinda taken aback by this episode. It did seem very "old boys club" the whole segment that's causing so much drama. From a quick perusal of the thread it's pretty clear why avilo's opinion is not respected but for people who don't read TL/sc2 reddit all the time it was kinda bad at the time. Quite surprised to see such a ridiculous outcry over this though it was a bit of a mishap not the end of the world. there isn't many demanding idra, incontrol, jp or any of them to be punished. What boils down is people posts that they felt disgusted (similar to yours), while a few thinks avilo deserves it and defends their actions on a forum. Also things like this will have different effects to people. Some have thicker skins, and some don't. Some will feel personally offended by it due to their personal experience, and some may just shrug it off cause they were offender or has never experienced/seen those things happen | ||
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McPhiz
Canada183 Posts
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On July 01 2012 14:11 Duravi wrote: If you are really unhappy, contact the sponsors. That appears to be the only thing that actually gets things done. As long as you contact sponsors when you see some good things too I don't believe there is anything wrong with it. This is the shit thats killing eSports. Contact the sponsors over something someone said? Do you want to risk damaging this fragile industry because you are mad about what pro-gamer said over the internet? Thats ridiculous and this behavior has serious side effects. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:32 BlackPanther wrote: This is the shit thats killing eSports. Contact the sponsors over something someone said? Do you want to risk damaging this fragile industry because you are mad about what pro-gamer said over the internet? Thats ridiculous and this behavior has serious side effects. No saying shit is killing esports is killing esports. If losing dudes on one SC show that is only really known to "hardcore" members of the community isn't going to kill sponsor interest in SC, and if it does then we're all doomed anyway. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On July 01 2012 14:09 Ireniicus wrote: I contacted SirScoots to the affect I would not watch the latest EG mastercup because of the last SOTG antics. As you can imagine he was unrepentant advised I should just unfollow all EG, which is a shame as I quite like listening to the guy on Lo3 . So I think the message is clear. If it didn't bother you carry on and enjoy the shows if it did best let EG know that you will not be supporting them at this time as its clear their management team see nothing wrong whatsoever with EGIdra or EGIncontrols actions of late. SirScoots @ "Underreaction, you should unfollow all things EG, myself included if they upset you so much." Hahahah! You contacted SirScoots over this? I'm sorry, but this is so funny to me! I'm glad Scoots responded like a baws! Scoots <3 I wish people cying would just go away. Going away is the ultimate complaint afterall and then we didn't have to ruin this thread with these silly complaints  | ||
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freakhill
Japan463 Posts
On July 01 2012 15:14 SnipedSoul wrote: JP admitted it was a bad idea to bring Avilo on and won't make the same mistake again. Asking for more than that is kind of weird, imo. This is ridiculous. Can't they recognize the misandry of their ways. Don't they realize they were treating a fellow human being as a sack of shit, and that they made a show of it! The "bad" thing was not "to bring Avilo on", it was to behave as they did. I don't want tocare about what you get on TV or on the radio in the united states. I, however, expect public figures whose prestige exceed american borders to have common decency. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:44 Cereb wrote: Hahahah! You contacted SirScoots over this? I'm sorry, but this is so funny to me! I'm glad Scoots responded like a baws! Scoots <3 I wish people cying would just go away. Going away is the ultimate complaint afterall and then we didn't have to ruin this thread with these silly complaints Fortunately most people don't act like twelve year old boys, and realize that in life they will have to deal with many people that have differing opinions from their own. My point was never to just go bitch to sponsors, it was that if you make the effort to contact a team's management, and they treat you like shit, if you care enough the next logical step is to contact the sponsor. Scoots was foolish to reply like that, if he really disagreed he should have either stated so in a professional manner, or said nothing. | ||
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Mordlikeafox
Ireland43 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:55 freakhill wrote: This is ridiculous. Can't they recognize the misandry of their ways. Don't they realize they were treating a fellow human being as a sack of shit, and that they made a show of it! The "bad" thing was not "to bring Avilo on", it was to behave as they did. I don't want tocare about what you get on TV or on the radio in the united states. I, however, expect public figures whose prestige exceed american borders to have common decency. I do not think that word means what you think it means | ||
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Ireniicus
United Kingdom374 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:56 Duravi wrote: Fortunately most people don't act like twelve year old boys, and realize that in life they will have to deal with many people that have differing opinions from their own. My point was never to just go bitch to sponsors, it was that if you make the effort to contact a team's management, and they treat you like shit, if you care enough the next logical step is to contact the sponsor. Scoots was foolish to reply like that, if he really disagreed he should have either stated so in a professional manner, or said nothing. I concur Duravi | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:56 Duravi wrote: Fortunately most people don't act like twelve year old boys, and realize that in life they will have to deal with many people that have differing opinions from their own. My point was never to just go bitch to sponsors, it was that if you make the effort to contact a team's management, and they treat you like shit, if you care enough the next logical step is to contact the sponsor. Scoots was foolish to reply like that, if he really disagreed he should have either stated so in a professional manner, or said nothing. Just for what SirScoots said, I'm going to go buy an EG shirt. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On July 01 2012 17:12 fraktoasters wrote: Just for what SirScoots said, I'm going to go buy an EG shirt. Good man + Show Spoiler + or woman | ||
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iGoTThiZ
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On July 01 2012 16:56 Duravi wrote: Fortunately most people don't act like twelve year old boys, and realize that in life they will have to deal with many people that have differing opinions from their own. My point was never to just go bitch to sponsors, it was that if you make the effort to contact a team's management, and they treat you like shit, if you care enough the next logical step is to contact the sponsor. Scoots was foolish to reply like that, if he really disagreed he should have either stated so in a professional manner, or said nothing. Yes that is fortunate But the next "logical" step is to realise that this behavior is completely ridiculous and that you should just stop watching it if you are unhappy with the content. I think Scoots was awesome to respond like that. You can't really paint it black and white like that. Whenever you take a position to anything in life you will make some people like you more and some like you less. Even if you choose to say nothing you are still taking a position and people are still going to judge you based on it. Edit: On July 01 2012 17:20 iGoTThiZ wrote: Either you have the skin of a 10 year old girl or you get bullied yourself to take this small incident so personal. So personal you want to contact these guys sponsors which is absurd. These guys have already apologized in their own way but it doesnt seem to be enough for you guys, that is ridiculous to me. Next thing i am going to read is some of you nerds want them crucified and starved for a week for saying fuck you. I would not be surprised by that with all this overreaction and melodrama. Lol great post | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On July 01 2012 17:20 iGoTThiZ wrote: Either you have the skin of a 10 year old girl or you get bullied yourself to take this small incident so personal. So personal you want to contact these guys sponsors which is absurd. These guys have already apologized in their own way but it doesnt seem to be enough for you guys, that is ridiculous to me. Next thing i am going to read is some of you nerds want them crucified and starved for a week for saying fuck you. I would not be surprised by that with all this overreaction and melodrama. Holy shit for the 15th time I dont want to contact any sponsors I was responding to someone else. I think this is a trivial issue to contact sponsors over, Idra is Idra, and Geoff has always been a hypocrite and a bully so I'm not sure why people are surprised when occasionally that side of him shows. I actually like Scoots, he is really good on LO3 and I've enjoyed some of the interviews he has done, I still think it is kind of silly for him to respond to a reasonably worded tweet in the way that he did, what was the point? | ||
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Dustus
United Kingdom86 Posts
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Kaiyotic
United States90 Posts
On July 01 2012 17:12 fraktoasters wrote: Just for what SirScoots said, I'm going to go buy an EG shirt. Seconded. What a way to shut down the wambulance. | ||
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