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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
September 18 2011 08:03 GMT
#31141
On September 18 2011 16:46 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think the next SotG is going to be primarily focused on the days of BW

Courtesy of JP's Twitter.

Time for epic nostalgia and people complaining!

My prayers are answered ^_^
d=(^_^)z
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 18 2011 08:19 GMT
#31142
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 08:27:37
September 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#31143
Edit: wrong thread
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 18 2011 08:33 GMT
#31144
On September 18 2011 17:03 elmizzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 16:46 Daralii wrote:
I think the next SotG is going to be primarily focused on the days of BW

Courtesy of JP's Twitter.

Time for epic nostalgia and people complaining!

My prayers are answered ^_^


They have to talk about MLG pools and Valencia I would think. With a touch perhaps towards Arena of Legends or NASL.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 18 2011 08:45 GMT
#31145
On September 16 2011 01:37 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
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On September 16 2011 01:26 MrCon wrote:
One thing I don't get is how the GSL format is responsible for having too much terrans.
Unless you change it to an invitational I don't know how any format can have an influence on the races. (btw, the invitationals keep inviting more korean terrans than every other race xD)
Too much terrans in code S, 2 terrans qualified in code A with 6 protoss and 6 zergs qualified in code A. How can a format change the results, race wise ?


A format change does nothing alleviate the race distribution at all.

The hosts had a problem with the fact that there were too many Terrans and they also had a problem with a format. I suppose they decided to group those criticisms into one big ball and just let rip at the GSL as usual.

I understand what Day9's point were in that it very hard to bring fresh blood into Cose S, but to be quite honest, the people in Code S certainly deserve to be there. They are world's above most other players on the planet and all of them earned their spot. Look at the groups in Code S that were drawn today and tell me that each season isnt getting more and more stacked? It's a slow process, but deservedly so.

I find it useful to immediately bring up the MLG system whenever someone gets to whining about GSL format.

"Something isnt justifyable if you can find examples around you of people who are doing the same thing or are doing worse." yes, MLGs system is bs but it is confirmed to undergo a change in 2k12
no dude, the question
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 18 2011 09:03 GMT
#31146
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 18 2011 09:06 GMT
#31147
On September 18 2011 18:03 Hall0wed wrote:
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.

how did jangbi save esports?
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 18 2011 09:08 GMT
#31148
On September 18 2011 18:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:03 Hall0wed wrote:
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.

how did jangbi save esports?


By fulfilling the Legend of the Fall, denying a Terran champion, another b2b champion, and killing Flash and Fantasy (the best TvPers) in the process. There is hope.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 18 2011 09:34 GMT
#31149
On September 18 2011 18:08 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On September 18 2011 18:03 Hall0wed wrote:
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.

how did jangbi save esports?


By fulfilling the Legend of the Fall, denying a Terran champion, another b2b champion, and killing Flash and Fantasy (the best TvPers) in the process. There is hope.


Who made the legend in the first place?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 10:00:49
September 18 2011 09:58 GMT
#31150
On September 18 2011 18:08 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On September 18 2011 18:03 Hall0wed wrote:
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.

how did jangbi save esports?


By fulfilling the Legend of the Fall, denying a Terran champion, another b2b champion, and killing Flash and Fantasy (the best TvPers) in the process. There is hope.

sounds impressive. little overly dramatic to say this "saves esports." maybe it makes bw a little more interesting.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 18 2011 10:21 GMT
#31151
On September 18 2011 17:33 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 17:03 elmizzt wrote:
On September 18 2011 16:46 Daralii wrote:
I think the next SotG is going to be primarily focused on the days of BW

Courtesy of JP's Twitter.

Time for epic nostalgia and people complaining!

My prayers are answered ^_^


They have to talk about MLG pools and Valencia I would think. With a touch perhaps towards Arena of Legends or NASL.

Don't count on them talking about DH.
For the Stockholm invitational it was like "did anyone watch the games?" "..."
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
September 18 2011 10:39 GMT
#31152
Tyler did watch some games this time tho and I love listening to him analyzing games, hes damn good at it.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 18 2011 10:58 GMT
#31153
On September 18 2011 17:19 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.


Pretty sure everyone except EU fanboys who watch more Go4sc2 than GSL knew DRG was going to faceroll him. There was no luck it was really, really obvious.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 18 2011 12:36 GMT
#31154
On September 18 2011 16:46 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think the next SotG is going to be primarily focused on the days of BW

Courtesy of JP's Twitter.

Time for epic nostalgia and people complaining!


OMG YES.

Potential to be the best sotg ever - check.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 12:41:05
September 18 2011 12:39 GMT
#31155
On September 18 2011 18:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 18:03 Hall0wed wrote:
SOTG atleast needs to talk about Jangbi saving ESPORTS at the very least. BW stories would be good but there is plenty to talk about this week actually. Pretty sure JP was trolling with the twitter though.

how did jangbi save esports?


he won the osl. and he was a protoss.

and... 3 million chinese viewers... (<--HOLY SHIT!!!)
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 18 2011 16:38 GMT
#31156
On September 18 2011 17:19 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.

Whaaaaaaaaat? Unless Lucifron had gotten extremely good without making any waves that reach me, which has not happened yet and would be very odd, then that tells me all I need to know about DRG playing a ZvT. You are focusing too much on Lucifron when my job isn't to evaluate Lucifron, it's to evaluate the matchup DRG vs Lucifron. Of course, part of that is evaluating Lucifron. But because DRG ZvT is such an extreme, I only need to ask myself, do I think it's probable that Lucifron is top 5 TvZ player in the world (including Koreans)? No? Then DRG gonna win ezpz (as he said in his own words).
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
September 18 2011 16:48 GMT
#31157
On September 19 2011 01:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 17:19 usethis2 wrote:
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.

Whaaaaaaaaat? Unless Lucifron had gotten extremely good without making any waves that reach me, which has not happened yet and would be very odd, then that tells me all I need to know about DRG playing a ZvT. You are focusing too much on Lucifron when my job isn't to evaluate Lucifron, it's to evaluate the matchup DRG vs Lucifron. Of course, part of that is evaluating Lucifron. But because DRG ZvT is such an extreme, I only need to ask myself, do I think it's probable that Lucifron is top 5 TvZ player in the world (including Koreans)? No? Then DRG gonna win ezpz (as he said in his own words).


pow

But was the only reason Luci invited because he's Spanish? Or is he like TT1 at the NA invitational where they think he's good but turns out Dimaga/Nerchio/Stephano/Mana ect should have been invited (yes I know they are EU and I was giving example of NA, but concerning Valencia)
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 18 2011 17:20 GMT
#31158
On September 19 2011 01:48 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2011 01:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 18 2011 17:19 usethis2 wrote:
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.

Whaaaaaaaaat? Unless Lucifron had gotten extremely good without making any waves that reach me, which has not happened yet and would be very odd, then that tells me all I need to know about DRG playing a ZvT. You are focusing too much on Lucifron when my job isn't to evaluate Lucifron, it's to evaluate the matchup DRG vs Lucifron. Of course, part of that is evaluating Lucifron. But because DRG ZvT is such an extreme, I only need to ask myself, do I think it's probable that Lucifron is top 5 TvZ player in the world (including Koreans)? No? Then DRG gonna win ezpz (as he said in his own words).


pow

But was the only reason Luci invited because he's Spanish? Or is he like TT1 at the NA invitational where they think he's good but turns out Dimaga/Nerchio/Stephano/Mana ect should have been invited (yes I know they are EU and I was giving example of NA, but concerning Valencia)


Dreamhack has, if not an official policy, a standard of always inviting the reigning national champion of the country where they are holding their tournament.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 18 2011 17:28 GMT
#31159
On September 19 2011 01:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 17:19 usethis2 wrote:
On September 18 2011 11:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 14 2011 22:11 JayJay_90 wrote:
if i recall it correctly he called him a "not fully developed sc2 player" and even asked, if he's even supposed to talk about the matchup Luci - DRG

hmmm how about that! did you see the games? DID YOU SEE THE GAMES?!?!!?

I don't know how you talk as if those games somehow vindicate your comment ad-hoc. Your comment on Lucifron can only be vindicated if you knew about his recent skill/performance. If that were the case, then sure your comment is more than justified. If you did not know much about Lucifron's skill and made that comment on some vague memory from the beta (or worse, his WC3 background) then you simply got lucky, nothing more.

Whaaaaaaaaat? Unless Lucifron had gotten extremely good without making any waves that reach me, which has not happened yet and would be very odd, then that tells me all I need to know about DRG playing a ZvT. You are focusing too much on Lucifron when my job isn't to evaluate Lucifron, it's to evaluate the matchup DRG vs Lucifron. Of course, part of that is evaluating Lucifron. But because DRG ZvT is such an extreme, I only need to ask myself, do I think it's probable that Lucifron is top 5 TvZ player in the world (including Koreans)? No? Then DRG gonna win ezpz (as he said in his own words).


Its a real bummer that Luci had to play DRG first, imo.

He's an incredibly talented player, and I think, against anyone else in the tourney, his play would have really impressed.

But DRG is what? Top 2 in the world ZvT? I don't think him dismantling Luci should be surprising, or damning to Luci.

If Lucifron keeps playing, he'll start producing some good results. And if not, then so be it, but he's still a damn strong player. Much better than anyone has given him credit for.
aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 17:42:49
September 18 2011 17:39 GMT
#31160
i was crestfallen after the luci vs DRG series as im a big luci fan. you could clearly see he was having nerve issues. he was so scared. his expansion patterns were all fucked and he didnt even use his usual openings that he owns up players like dimaga/stephano/nerchio/lalush with in the cups lately.


was keen to see his reaper 17 cc into blue flame opening with reactor starport for 1 viking 1 medivac. that opening is so tight. he didnt get to even show 75% of his skill tbh and thats what so sad. even at 100% he prlly wouldnt of won the series but perhaps a map.

the guys on sotg have always been a bit in the dark when it comes to EU players and guys who are up and coming or dont have a huge reputation. for that you cant blame them but it is frustrating if you follow the EU scene extremely closely that your favourite players arent getting the credit they deserve.

all this whinging at tyler for not knowing much about luci is pretty stupid though.
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