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Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

September 15 2011 00:24 GMT

#31081

zzz.

Fuck people, iNcontrol has an opinion and that's his opinion. Unlike the people in the last couple pages, he's not going up to people who enjoyed the matches and saying "YOU'RE WRONG and you over there, YOU'RE WRONG."

Stop taking it personally!

If you enjoyed it fantastic! iNcontrol didn't, but that doesn't give you the right to criticize him for his damn opinion! And if you don't like hearing his opinions, DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!

deanx

United States78 Posts

September 15 2011 00:40 GMT

#31082

Is it OK to assume that JP was fishing for so long about the "national championship" idea so that he could pitch it for MLG?

Resilient

United Kingdom1431 Posts

September 15 2011 00:45 GMT

#31083

On September 15 2011 09:24 Gamegene wrote:
zzz.

Fuck people, iNcontrol has an opinion and that's his opinion. Unlike the people in the last couple pages, he's not going up to people who enjoyed the matches and saying "YOU'RE WRONG and you over there, YOU'RE WRONG."

Stop taking it personally!

If you enjoyed it fantastic! iNcontrol didn't, but that doesn't give you the right to criticize him for his damn opinion! And if you don't like hearing his opinions, DON'T WATCH THE SHOW!

Unless I'm remembering things badly, he did say something like, "if you watched them, knowing what they would be, you have too much free time". Which is a direct suggestion that noone should have watched or enjoyed them.

Bayyne

United States1967 Posts

September 15 2011 00:47 GMT

#31084

On September 15 2011 09:45 Resilient wrote:

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And that's his opinion, sup? You think if he suggests to people to not eat for 3 days straight people will listen?

Resilient

United Kingdom1431 Posts

September 15 2011 00:49 GMT

#31085

On September 15 2011 09:47 Bayyne wrote:

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And that's his opinion, sup? You think if he suggests to people to not eat for 3 days straight people will listen?

That's not really the point. Anyone can have an opinion, and I respect his. The problem is when you bring that opinion over and question other people's choices. Then that's not an opinion at all.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

September 15 2011 00:54 GMT

#31086

On September 15 2011 09:23 Hider wrote:

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On September 15 2011 07:56 Plansix wrote:

On September 15 2011 06:09 Hider wrote:

On September 15 2011 04:05 FryktSkyene wrote:

On September 15 2011 03:55 nvs. wrote:

I think Incontrol is constructive when he criticizes a tournament or player.

My problem wasn't with Incontrol criticizing a tournament or a player, it was with him calling us all idiots for enjoying the show.

Ya. Pretty constructive.

It makes sense though.

He didn't enjoy it ---- > No one can enjoy it ---- > 'Stupid games' -----> stupid people.

see?

-.-

This is what makes incontrols double standards:

He dont like receiving negative critic --> No one should state their negative opinions about him on forums --> They are haters --> Need to talk about how annoying it is that people are hating on him for 5 minutes on a talk show.

Or you could argue that Incontrol likes to make fun of people, which somes times may actually hurt their feelings --> IF they laugh as a response they must think it is funny, and we are all friends --> Incontrol dont see any problems making comments on Huks height.

Some people have negative associations with the word "rape" --> No one is allowed to mention that word in any context because it could hurt some peoples feelings.

Well if this isn't the most poorly crafted argument I've seen in a while. Its pretty much "I am going to loosely paraphrase some of thing you said over last 5 months in an order that makes my point."

Incontrol says that people are haters because they are. People are just looking for a reason to jump all over him. They hear him stay "Your an idiot" and freak out, claiming that he is calling the community and people who like "all star games" dumb.

When in fact, he stated "If you think I'm an idiot for not liking the games, your an idiot". He did not say that anyone who liked the games were idiots. He was referring to a much smaller group of people who was saying he was stupid for not understanding the "spirit" of the all star games. I know that complex sentence structure is hard some folks, but its not a reason to freak out.

Also, I like the ending when the word "rape" is added in for shock value. It has nothing to do with anything else in the post, but it make you sit up and take notice. Its the sign of a well thought out argument that needs some punch at the end.

Ok, i did not actually listen to the episode as it has got kinda boring as of late, and it seems like someone in an earlier post misquoted incontrol I dont think there is anything wrong with what he said there, so my bad. However this doesn't change that incontrol is a hypocrite. The rape/huk example was just an example of Incontrol not understanding how he should actually behave if he wants to follow his own moral which he wants destiny and other streamers to follow. Its a similiar situation because he advices never to say something which could hurt other peoples feeling. And incontrol obv. lacks understandings of human behaviour when he thinks Huk laughing = everything is fine and we are all friends.

Hey Hider,

It's pretty simple. You don't know Huk. Not at all. Not even in the least. hell, he doesn't know you. It's this perfect example of you getting all upset on behalf of someone you don't have any connection to at all and assuming the worst of it. Lets go further! The rape debate that happened 4 or 5 months ago was about a particular word and it's colloquial function in gamer language. What wasn't being discussed is all words/phrases that might upset someone somewhere.. it was specifically about "rape" and "nigger." You comparing me making a short joke to a friend and people using "rape" in their cast are so far off point I am in danger of believing you to be a person acting ignorant for attention.

Couple quick suggestions for you: Don't bitch about something then later admit you didn't even watch the show in question. Don't assume you know EGHuk better than EGiNcontroL, you don't. Stop arguing in general on the internet.. you seem to not only be bad but destructively incapable of doing it.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

September 15 2011 00:56 GMT

#31087

On September 15 2011 09:49 Resilient wrote:

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That's not really the point. Anyone can have an opinion, and I respect his. The problem is when you bring that opinion over and question other people's choices. Then that's not an opinion at all.

I'm of the opinion that you thinking an opinion on other people's actions isn't an opinion is bad.

Enchanted

United States1609 Posts

September 15 2011 00:57 GMT

#31088

SotG makes me laugh hard, but every time I hear them talk about protoss innovation they never talk enough about White Ra and how awesome he is. Yes I am a huge White Ra fan boy.

Keep up the good show =D

Defacer

Canada5052 Posts

September 15 2011 00:58 GMT

#31089

On September 15 2011 09:49 Resilient wrote:

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That's not really the point. Anyone can have an opinion, and I respect his. The problem is when you bring that opinion over and question other people's choices. Then that's not an opinion at all.

You see, I feel that's too sensitive. We've all talked smacked about other people's actions, hobbies, interests. SOTG is a show based on light conversation, and talking about 'likes' and 'dislikes' is all in good fun. There's no need to take Incontrol (or yourself) that seriously.

Saying that people that enjoyed SC2 AllStar games had too much free time is like making fun of your girlfriend for recording Days of our Lives. It's not a big deal at all.

Resilient

United Kingdom1431 Posts

September 15 2011 00:59 GMT

#31090

On September 15 2011 09:56 iNcontroL wrote:

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I'm of the opinion that you thinking an opinion on other people's actions isn't an opinion is bad.

I'll get back to you on that when my small brain deciphers it!

deanx

United States78 Posts

September 15 2011 01:09 GMT

#31091

If everyone stopped whiteknighting everyone else my legit question might get an answer.

sadface

Thugtronik

New Zealand452 Posts

September 15 2011 01:11 GMT

#31092

this thread cracks me up. some of you people bitching and moaning and dissecting every little word they say on the show sound like complete idiots. how the fuck do you pussies cope in the real world if you get offended by jokes made by a bunch of dudes on a starcraft podcast? seriously...

great show as always <3

deanx

United States78 Posts

September 15 2011 01:21 GMT

#31093

The internet means they don't have to cope with the real world, any word on the MLG national championship?

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

September 15 2011 01:24 GMT

#31094

On September 15 2011 09:23 Hider wrote:

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On September 15 2011 07:56 Plansix wrote:

On September 15 2011 06:09 Hider wrote:

On September 15 2011 04:05 FryktSkyene wrote:

On September 15 2011 03:55 nvs. wrote:

I think Incontrol is constructive when he criticizes a tournament or player.

My problem wasn't with Incontrol criticizing a tournament or a player, it was with him calling us all idiots for enjoying the show.

Ya. Pretty constructive.

It makes sense though.

He didn't enjoy it ---- > No one can enjoy it ---- > 'Stupid games' -----> stupid people.

see?

-.-

The point has been made, you're here to troll. It is clear you sole purpose to post is to talk trash about one of the host. You don't really care about the topics at hand or what was said during the show. You do care about pissing off Incontrol with these sorts of mindless, attention seeking comments.

By linking making fun of Huk can somehow be on the same level to rape and the use of the word, you show you have a misunderstanding of a great many things. Friendship, camaraderie, compassion, a basic understanding of the English language and the power of the spoken word seem to escape you Context, nuance and subtlety also seem to be difficult subjects as well.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

September 15 2011 01:29 GMT

#31095

On September 15 2011 10:09 deanx wrote:
If everyone stopped whiteknighting everyone else my legit question might get an answer.

sadface

Shouting down the morons is our civic duty. I don't like the negativity that get associated with the host try so hard to entertain us every week. Also, I demand better arguments, because the ones that are being put forth are really bad.

elmizzt

United States3309 Posts

September 15 2011 01:35 GMT

#31096

On September 15 2011 10:11 Thugtronik wrote:
this thread cracks me up. some of you people bitching and moaning and dissecting every little word they say on the show sound like complete idiots. how the fuck do you pussies cope in the real world if you get offended by jokes made by a bunch of dudes on a starcraft podcast? seriously...

great show as always <3

lmao so true. it's really pretty pathetic

Bobster

Germany3075 Posts

September 15 2011 01:40 GMT

#31097

On September 15 2011 09:40 deanx wrote:
Is it OK to assume that JP was fishing for so long about the "national championship" idea so that he could pitch it for MLG?

To be fair, there are competitions accepted as the National Championship of their respective country outside of the WCG - the winner of the EPS is considered the German Champion, for example.

But yeah, if WCG USA is (apparently) willing to give that position up, other events have to seize that chance and try to become the officially accepted National Championship.

DyEnasTy

United States3714 Posts

September 15 2011 01:40 GMT

#31098

Is there an MP3 for the MLG SOTG?