EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1554
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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slicknav
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On September 15 2011 07:16 flodeskum wrote: No, I think that's mostly a north american thing tbh. In pretty much any sport All Star games aren't taken too seriously. They are just events players do for fun/entertainment. You generally don't see players working their hardest in these games. Same can be said for the GSL All Star games. It was just for fun. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Well, happy birthday to him ! ^_^ | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On September 15 2011 07:27 slicknav wrote: In pretty much any sport All Star games aren't taken too seriously. They are just events players do for fun/entertainment. You generally don't see players working their hardest in these games. Same can be said for the GSL All Star games. It was just for fun. Exactly. NFL NBA NHL MLB are all joke games. Just people trying to do something impressive for the hell of it. For MLB or NHL (not sure which) home field is won through winning the All Star game and even still it isn't taken that seriously. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On September 15 2011 05:42 sjschmidt93 wrote: Hmmm, why did Incontrol call Hayward obscure? He hardly is... he got runner up in the 2010 NCAA tourney and was a first round draft pick. Also he didn't have too bad of a rookie year. He prolly never heard of him before he got involved with this website. | ||
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Zholistic
Australia278 Posts
Podcast was great, I totally understand what you were saying and the context that went along with it. I have read the last 5 pages of this thread and find it filled with either trolls or people who really misunderstand the intention behind words. Maybe cultural differences are to blame? Hmmm... Anyway just thought I'd post to represent probably the majority of people who don't misunderstand every SotG and who actually really love it. :D An aside: In Australia we have a culture based around facetious ironic insults of other people as terms of endearment. It's quite interesting. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On September 15 2011 07:34 NoobSkills wrote: Exactly. NFL NBA NHL MLB are all joke games. Just people trying to do something impressive for the hell of it. For MLB or NHL (not sure which) home field is won through winning the All Star game and even still it isn't taken that seriously. This is the biggest point I think the SotG panel didn't understand. All-star games are for personality NOT gameplay. There is nothing wrong with that, some people love them, and some people will never watch them, and the panel entirely missed the point. I don't get why you guys are zeroing in on Incontrol, everyone on SotG said they hated the games and didn't see the point of them, not just him. Personally I enjoyed them because I am a big fan of a lot of those players and it was nice to see them goof around in a not so serious environment, we don't get that chance very often. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 15 2011 07:10 Raisauce wrote: I thought you were training yourself not to read threads and respond to posts! Stop, screw what these guys have to say. Exactly. Leave it to the rest of us, we can shout down the morons and their limited understanding of context and sentence structure. | ||
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Sanjuro
Indonesia252 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 15 2011 06:09 Hider wrote: This is what makes incontrols double standards: He dont like receiving negative critic --> No one should state their negative opinions about him on forums --> They are haters --> Need to talk about how annoying it is that people are hating on him for 5 minutes on a talk show. Or you could argue that Incontrol likes to make fun of people, which somes times may actually hurt their feelings --> IF they laugh as a response they must think it is funny, and we are all friends --> Incontrol dont see any problems making comments on Huks height. Some people have negative associations with the word "rape" --> No one is allowed to mention that word in any context because it could hurt some peoples feelings. Well if this isn't the most poorly crafted argument I've seen in a while. Its pretty much "I am going to loosely paraphrase some of thing you said over last 5 months in an order that makes my point." Incontrol says that people are haters because they are. People are just looking for a reason to jump all over him. They hear him stay "Your an idiot" and freak out, claiming that he is calling the community and people who like "all star games" dumb. When in fact, he stated "If you think I'm an idiot for not liking the games, your an idiot". He did not say that anyone who liked the games were idiots. He was referring to a much smaller group of people who was saying he was stupid for not understanding the "spirit" of the all star games. I know that complex sentence structure is hard some folks, but its not a reason to freak out. Also, I like the ending when the word "rape" is added in for shock value. It has nothing to do with anything else in the post, but it make you sit up and take notice. Its the sign of a well thought out argument that needs some punch at the end. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
From the awesome Assorted GSL statistics : So we are finally at the point where it is mathematically possible for all 32 of the original Code S players to have been replaced, and 2/3 of them already have been. Exactly 10 from Code S January remain: Nestea, HongUn, MC, Ensnare, Zenio, Kyrix, Genius, Nada, Clide, not including MVP because he fell out and came back in. (and that's 1.5 months old)I wonder if MLG can say the same. I don't mean this as a ditch to MLG, just that Day9 point was very subjective. (especially as he doesn't watch it and it wouldn't surprise me that he doesn't follow it either) The funny thing is that GSL is not an invitational, so that skill matters for surviving, while all other tourneys that day9 is praising have an invitational format, and consistently invite the same players over and over again. Well, all my posts today were criticisms about sotg, but I still love the show, I just didn't liked how they talked about something they seem to know less and less about. | ||
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thatsundowner
Canada312 Posts
On September 15 2011 06:16 iNcontroL wrote: Me streaming 2v2 with puma late at night is not the same as complaining about a wasted opportunity to feature some amazing games. What the fuck. I wasn't arguing against ever showing fun games. I was arguing against the timing of them. How does this extremely basic concept go over so many heads? i'm curious as to what you mean by the timing on them, because at no point during the show did any of you mention that | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On September 15 2011 07:56 Plansix wrote: Well if this isn't the most poorly crafted argument I've seen in a while. Its pretty much "I am going to loosely paraphrase some of thing you said over last 5 months in an order that makes my point." Incontrol says that people are haters because they are. People are just looking for a reason to jump all over him. They hear him stay "Your an idiot" and freak out, claiming that he is calling the community and people who like "all star games" dumb. When in fact, he stated "If you think I'm an idiot for not liking the games, your an idiot". He did not say that anyone who liked the games were idiots. He was referring to a much smaller group of people who was saying he was stupid for not understanding the "spirit" of the all star games. I know that complex sentence structure is hard some folks, but its not a reason to freak out. Also, I like the ending when the word "rape" is added in for shock value. It has nothing to do with anything else in the post, but it make you sit up and take notice. Its the sign of a well thought out argument that needs some punch at the end. But is all of this really necessary? I mean- I get it, dealing with the interwebs is nerv-wrecking at times. Especially, when you are the center of public attention and emotionally attached to the community at the same time. It is also perfectly understandable how these series yielded little to no benefit or entertainment for him. But boy, I do think the "dumb forumer" meme is getting way old. I really appreciate him talking about stuff that matters, but rants about people that rant are only that much interesting to listen to. Both sides would be better off ignoring it. | ||
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Pcgamer72
United States40 Posts
On September 15 2011 06:16 iNcontroL wrote: sotg thread post sotg makes me wonder why we even bother. Me streaming 2v2 with puma late at night is not the same as complaining about a wasted opportunity to feature some amazing games. What the fuck. I wasn't arguing against ever showing fun games. I was arguing against the timing of them. How does this extremely basic concept go over so many heads? double standards? Me complaining that people are too harsh about something is not me saying people should never criticize something.. wtf. Huk's height = rape? Seriously? Let me make this request.. if you watch sotg and constantly find yourself upset with what we say or how we say it STOP WATCHING So what is wrong with the timing GSL chose to show their fun games? Yours is no more correct than theirs. That's pretty simple. It's not as if they had MVP and Top offrace in the finals. They chose to show games that some people would enjoy. Hopefully you can try to enjoy it next time or go find something that your believe is more productive use of your personal time. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Just my two cents | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
This is a talkshow with personalities who talk about things related to SCII. Does every woman who watches the view throw a shit fit when Rosie O'Donell or Joy Whats-her-nuts doesn't know every goddamn thing about anything they talked about? I listened to the show, and they weren't horribly biased or offensive, they didn't fucking say European players are shitty or worse than Americans; I don't know what everyone's flipping out about. For fuck's sake, they're just people; they can't know everything or appeal to everyone's sensibilities. They are there to give their unique pro perspective on recent happenings in the SCII world; if you don't like their opinions, stop watching. I can't believe they continue doing this show with so many people just loving to throw shit constantly at them for sacrificing part of their tuesday to bring people a little cool content. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On September 15 2011 08:44 Arisen wrote: Reading the last few pages of this thread makes me a sad panda. Do people really give a fuck that iNcontroL thinks that the allstar matches were horrible. Do people REALLY give that much of a fuck about every host not understanding and following every goddamn player in Europe? This is a talkshow with personalities who talk about things related to SCII. Does every woman who watches the view throw a shit fit when Rosie O'Donell or Joy Whats-her-nuts doesn't know every goddamn thing about anything they talked about? I listened to the show, and they weren't horribly biased or offensive, they didn't fucking say European players are shitty or worse than Americans; I don't know what everyone's flipping out about. For fuck's sake, they're just people; they can't know everything or appeal to everyone's sensibilities. They are there to give their unique pro perspective on recent happenings in the SCII world; if you don't like their opinions, stop watching. I can't believe they continue doing this show with so many people just loving to throw shit constantly at them for sacrificing part of their tuesday to bring people a little cool content. This reaction people have would lead some people to believe that everything incontrol says is law and that he is not allowed to have an opinion. Damn life sure sucks for him. Also for the rumors surrounding "tasteless losing his job" need to also keep in mind that MLG is becoming a season format which means that tasteless and artosis would have to travel back and forth from MLG <=> GSL quite alot or they can quit gom and join MLG? | ||
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
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Keldrath
United States449 Posts
On September 15 2011 06:16 iNcontroL wrote: sotg thread post sotg makes me wonder why we even bother. Me streaming 2v2 with puma late at night is not the same as complaining about a wasted opportunity to feature some amazing games. What the fuck. I wasn't arguing against ever showing fun games. I was arguing against the timing of them. How does this extremely basic concept go over so many heads? double standards? Me complaining that people are too harsh about something is not me saying people should never criticize something.. wtf. Huk's height = rape? Seriously? Let me make this request.. if you watch sotg and constantly find yourself upset with what we say or how we say it STOP WATCHING can't please everyone buddy, just keep in mind a lot of them arent even serious they are just saying it to annoy you because you make it clear to them it does... | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On September 15 2011 07:56 Plansix wrote: Well if this isn't the most poorly crafted argument I've seen in a while. Its pretty much "I am going to loosely paraphrase some of thing you said over last 5 months in an order that makes my point." Incontrol says that people are haters because they are. People are just looking for a reason to jump all over him. They hear him stay "Your an idiot" and freak out, claiming that he is calling the community and people who like "all star games" dumb. When in fact, he stated "If you think I'm an idiot for not liking the games, your an idiot". He did not say that anyone who liked the games were idiots. He was referring to a much smaller group of people who was saying he was stupid for not understanding the "spirit" of the all star games. I know that complex sentence structure is hard some folks, but its not a reason to freak out. Also, I like the ending when the word "rape" is added in for shock value. It has nothing to do with anything else in the post, but it make you sit up and take notice. Its the sign of a well thought out argument that needs some punch at the end. Ok, i did not actually listen to the episode as it has got kinda boring as of late, and it seems like someone in an earlier post misquoted incontrol I dont think there is anything wrong with what he said there, so my bad. However this doesn't change that incontrol is a hypocrite. The rape/huk example was just an example of Incontrol not understanding how he should actually behave if he wants to follow his own moral which he wants destiny and other streamers to follow. Its a similiar situation because he advices never to say something which could hurt other peoples feeling. And incontrol obv. lacks understandings of human behaviour when he thinks Huk laughing = everything is fine and we are all friends. | ||
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