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Mord
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway171 Posts
September 09 2011 12:58 GMT
#30641
On September 09 2011 21:42 Velr wrote:
My take on "training" your APM :



This, I also find if I'm at some point in the game confused about what to do, my APM will drop significantly. I never really boost my APM artificially by spamming like a madman, after playing a game I'm usually more than warmed up enough. When I have a definite game plan and I know what I want, I find my APM stays much higher.
joen05
Profile Joined July 2011
United States126 Posts
September 09 2011 13:16 GMT
#30642
On September 09 2011 17:58 nShade wrote:
When is the next State of the Game podcast going to be held? :/


SOTG is every Tuesday at 1130 EST unless other circumstances cause them to reschedule or cancel.
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Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
September 09 2011 18:39 GMT
#30643
This may have been somewhere in the 1533 pages of this thread but after looking through it I can't find it..
Can anyone tell me what the music/song is that plays at the beginning screen before all the casters pop up? it seems like a sc remix song but I can't find that one anywhere.
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
September 10 2011 17:56 GMT
#30644
What is the name of the song JP played during the break???
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
September 11 2011 04:40 GMT
#30645
On September 09 2011 22:16 joen05 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 17:58 nShade wrote:
When is the next State of the Game podcast going to be held? :/


SOTG is every Tuesday at 1130 EST unless other circumstances cause them to reschedule or cancel.

which is enough to not really warrant the "Every tuesday" as the schedule, or atleast lately it has been. Like to see the show hit it's stride
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
September 11 2011 19:42 GMT
#30646
wheres the episode 48 vod
fuck lag
MasterZilla
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Sweden234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:46:53
September 11 2011 19:46 GMT
#30647
On September 12 2011 04:42 ZidaneTribal wrote:
wheres the episode 48 vod


Click the 'RSS' link and you'll find it, only OP that is not updated yet.
For Aiur! - If you reach for the stars and miss, you still might end up walking among the clouds.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
September 11 2011 19:51 GMT
#30648
On September 12 2011 04:46 MasterZilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:42 ZidaneTribal wrote:
wheres the episode 48 vod


Click the 'RSS' link and you'll find it, only OP that is not updated yet.


thanks :D
fuck lag
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 11 2011 19:55 GMT
#30649
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
September 11 2011 19:57 GMT
#30650
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome


+ there needs to be someone who knows more than 5 players from EU...^^
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
September 11 2011 20:45 GMT
#30651
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome



I don't think I have ever heard someone that doesn't love DeMuslim

assuming he wants to ... he should be on every week
muffley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States280 Posts
September 11 2011 21:02 GMT
#30652
re: Speeding up

I'm reminded of one of Stevey's Rants regarding typing speeds, where he gets into how professional musicians practice. I've tried to trim it down, he puts a lot of words down. If you're into programming and enjoy long, long posts, I recommend him.

Here's how you train your fingers.

You start with a passage. Anything at all. At first it'll just be a single note. Later it'll become a few notes, a phrase, a measure, a couple of measures. Anything you're having trouble with and you want to master.

First you play the lick as fast as possible. You don't care about making mistakes! The goal of this phase is to loosen your fingers up. You want them to know what raw speed feels like. The wind should be rushing through their fingery hair! Yuck!

Next you play it as slow as necessary. In this pass you should use proper technique. That basically means "as proper as you can", because state-of-the-art technique is (a) constantly evolving and (b) always somewhat personal. You pick any discipline, they've got schools of thought around technique. There's no right answer, because our bodies all work a little differently. You just have to pick the technique that you like best and try to do it right.

.............

Whatever technique you choose, in the slow pass you don't care about speed AT ALL. You care about accuracy. Perfect practice makes perfect, and all that. You want your fingers to know what it feels like to be correct. Doesn't matter if it takes you 30 seconds per note. Just get it right. If you make a mistake, start over from the beginning, slower.

Finally, you play it "at speed". If you're practicing a musical instrument, you play it at the target tempo. You want your fingers to feel musical. Musicians generally agree that you don't want to make mistakes in this phase, or you're just practicing your mistakes. But realistically, most musicians are probably willing to make a few minor sacrifices here in the third pass, as long as the music shines through beautifully.

Let's call it 5 sacrifices a minute. That's what you're targeting.

Fast, Slow, Medium. Over and over. That's what they do. And it works!
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
September 11 2011 22:35 GMT
#30653
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome

Agreed, replace Day9 with Ben. Lets face it, Day9 is mostly there for his infectuous laughter anyway. He doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to modern Starcraft.

Day9's input when it comes to Starcraft players: "Player XX is super nice, and also really really good."

Day9's input when it comes to GSL: "I didn't really watch the games, but my brother Nick surely did an awesome job casting this weekend."

Day9's take on game balance: "Generally I don't want to discuss game balance because there is no balance in a game until its been out for 10 years like Broodwar, and all the strategies have been cemented. Also I don't want to give a strong opinion about anything, because I don't want to upset anyone. Everything is a rainbow."
dcp
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom45 Posts
September 11 2011 23:49 GMT
#30654
couldnt be more wrong legio.

sotg isnt about having the absolute perfect panel for balance discussion, its about having people who know pretty much everything about the game as it stands at the moment.

otherwise you'd have jp, one protoss, one zerg and one terran who all play professionally and probably no casters. i like the mix of a couple of players and a couple of casters, you get different ends of the spectrum from actual mechanics and tactics to crazy amounts of knowledge about games so numerous you'd need a brain like an encyclopedia to remember them all.

its also about a group of friends coming together and working off each other for a good conversation about sc2, maybe people dont always contribute to every discussion but it doesnt mean replacing them. how many times have you see tyler sit there with his semi drunk whisky grin and not say anything for an hour because he's happy to listen in or jp not actually host/moderate the show because theres some crazily detailed discussion of mechanics go on between two or three of the five member panel for 30 minutes (because he knows its not needed).

just look what djwheat does, he's got his balanced show with one of each race (when they stay connected to skype ) and another show thats just 'hey everyone lets have a chat about sc2, anything goes'....sotg tries to be a little of both

sotg isnt your tv sports discussion panel show where everything has to be perfectly balanced or the bitchy public pick up the phone...just because some people dont 'fit the mold' doesnt mean they need replacing, sotg works so well because its something you can imagine taking place between a few mates who are discussing their favourite game with webcams and a structure thrown in.

and ill add one more thing, sotg...I FUCKING LOVE YOU GUYS *wipes away emo tear*

end rant.
"Me fail English? That’s unpossible!"
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
September 11 2011 23:58 GMT
#30655
On September 12 2011 07:35 Legio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome

Agreed, replace Day9 with Ben. Lets face it, Day9 is mostly there for his infectuous laughter anyway. He doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to modern Starcraft.

Day9's input when it comes to Starcraft players: "Player XX is super nice, and also really really good."

Day9's input when it comes to GSL: "I didn't really watch the games, but my brother Nick surely did an awesome job casting this weekend."

Day9's take on game balance: "Generally I don't want to discuss game balance because there is no balance in a game until its been out for 10 years like Broodwar, and all the strategies have been cemented. Also I don't want to give a strong opinion about anything, because I don't want to upset anyone. Everything is a rainbow."



And this is why i hate day9 he never brings anything to the table (I don't hate him as person, but as a panelist who is on a podcast about the STATE OF THE GAME)


NOTE this above statement is my opinion. no need for you to go ape**** over one persons opinion

Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#30656
Its a relaxed and entertaining SC2 show with some of the most involved community figures and personalities. Thats it.

Stop trying to make it something its not. Stop trying to make the show itself "balanced", you don't change a winning recipe.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Mczeppo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany319 Posts
September 12 2011 01:32 GMT
#30657
Major seems to be dumb anyways...
"socially retarted"

Artosis even said it. You could already see that in his first interviews
"whether you make it or not depends mostly on the personal battle within yourself." - NaDa
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
September 12 2011 01:41 GMT
#30658
On September 12 2011 08:58 integrity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 07:35 Legio wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome

Agreed, replace Day9 with Ben. Lets face it, Day9 is mostly there for his infectuous laughter anyway. He doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to modern Starcraft.

Day9's input when it comes to Starcraft players: "Player XX is super nice, and also really really good."

Day9's input when it comes to GSL: "I didn't really watch the games, but my brother Nick surely did an awesome job casting this weekend."

Day9's take on game balance: "Generally I don't want to discuss game balance because there is no balance in a game until its been out for 10 years like Broodwar, and all the strategies have been cemented. Also I don't want to give a strong opinion about anything, because I don't want to upset anyone. Everything is a rainbow."



And this is why i hate day9 he never brings anything to the table (I don't hate him as person, but as a panelist who is on a podcast about the STATE OF THE GAME)


NOTE this above statement is my opinion. no need for you to go ape**** over one persons opinion



Meh, This is why I like state of the game. day9 doesn't talk sometime. tyler doesn't talk unless it's protoss related cause the rest of the shit he doesn't really care about. Thats what makes it special. It's a bunch of friends(who r pros as well) just talking about what they love/hate. If they wanna talk about horses they can damn well talk about horses for 30 minutes cause it's awesome. they have an "agenda" that they follow so they dont run out of shit to talk about but they have a hard time even following that which just makes it all the more entertaining and not all "roboty"
Root4Root
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#30659
Day9 is the glue that holds sotg together. It's just not the same the days he's not there.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
September 12 2011 01:46 GMT
#30660
On September 12 2011 07:35 Legio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:55 Maxie wrote:
Please have Ben on the show again... preferrably every week. They do need a Terran on the show, and Ben is just awesome

Agreed, replace Day9 with Ben. Lets face it, Day9 is mostly there for his infectuous laughter anyway. He doesn't bring anything to the table when it comes to modern Starcraft.

Day9's input when it comes to Starcraft players: "Player XX is super nice, and also really really good."

Day9's input when it comes to GSL: "I didn't really watch the games, but my brother Nick surely did an awesome job casting this weekend."

Day9's take on game balance: "Generally I don't want to discuss game balance because there is no balance in a game until its been out for 10 years like Broodwar, and all the strategies have been cemented. Also I don't want to give a strong opinion about anything, because I don't want to upset anyone. Everything is a rainbow."


Yeah - going to echo this sentiment. State of the Game is at its best when there is friction and good discussion and I feel like Day9 tends to be way to moderate about anything and everything for this show. People with strong views and good articulation of those views are the best type of people for SotG.
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