EPTOfficial State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 144
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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Mundungu
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 27 2010 11:29 KevinIX wrote: It seems like Starcraft is all about macro. There is no macro in Chess. Starcraft is also about multitasking. There is no multitasking in Chess. Starcraft is also about unit composition and countering the opponent's composition. There is no unit composition in Chess. Starcraft is about stutter step, unit surrounds, forcefields, storm dodging. There is no micro in Chess. Chess is about anticipating your opponent's moves and countering them. There is a little of that in Starcraft. I wouldn't really consider Chess that similar to Starcraft. Chess is a thinking game. Starcraft is more of a sport. And that makes Starcraft far superior than Chess to watch. I would consider Starcraft more similar to Football or Soccer than Chess. Good point. Starcraft is like being the general manager and coach of the worst soccer team of all time. Unless you tell them EXACTLY what to do at any given time they will either stand around, run out of bounds, or die. | ||
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NeverNight
Canada33 Posts
On October 27 2010 13:42 Defacer wrote: Good point. Starcraft is like being the general manager and coach of the worst soccer team of all time. Unless you tell them EXACTLY what to do at any given time they will either stand around, run out of bounds, or die. Lmfao, thats a great analogy. I just pictured soccer players running around screaming and like one of them starting on fire and dying for no apparent reason. | ||
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okuraku
United States210 Posts
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
On October 27 2010 11:29 KevinIX wrote: It seems like Starcraft is all about macro. There is no macro in Chess. Starcraft is also about multitasking. There is no multitasking in Chess. Starcraft is also about unit composition and countering the opponent's composition. There is no unit composition in Chess. Starcraft is about stutter step, unit surrounds, forcefields, storm dodging. There is no micro in Chess. Chess is about anticipating your opponent's moves and countering them. There is a little of that in Starcraft. I wouldn't really consider Chess that similar to Starcraft. Chess is a thinking game. Starcraft is more of a sport. And that makes Starcraft far superior than Chess to watch. I would consider Starcraft more similar to Football or Soccer than Chess. This has to be a troll right? While chess is turn based, some moves can be used as both offensive and defensive postures. You also have to be able to be aggressive while also being safe, sorta like multitasking. Pawns? Rooks? Queen(no pun intended) I would call that having a different unit composition. Are we even talking about the same 2 games here? If you don't try to anticipate your opponents move you are probably stuck in lower leagues. Every single decent player scouts, and tries to anticipate their opponents intentions, then find its counter. This can be done from simple unit compositions, to broad play styles. | ||
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Mr_Kzimir
France268 Posts
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timbo
United Kingdom70 Posts
On October 27 2010 16:17 zomgtossrush wrote: This has to be a troll right? While chess is turn based, some moves can be used as both offensive and defensive postures. You also have to be able to be aggressive while also being safe, sorta like multitasking. Pawns? Rooks? Queen(no pun intended) I would call that having a different unit composition. Are we even talking about the same 2 games here? If you don't try to anticipate your opponents move you are probably stuck in lower leagues. Every single decent player scouts, and tries to anticipate their opponents intentions, then find its counter. This can be done from simple unit compositions, to broad play styles. I find it pretty ridiculous that you are trying to argue that chess has multitasking. | ||
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AyJay
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On October 27 2010 06:23 Terrakin wrote: EGManofoneway EGGayBar please! + Show Spoiler + guy who knocked JulyZerg from GSL | ||
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TehRaZer
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On October 27 2010 06:39 Devlin wrote: EG.MorroW Naniwa would be a better fit with Incontrol and Idra. Edit: Actually I'd like to see the two of them in one team, EG.MorroW and EG.Naniwa ftw! | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
I know the first one is day but I can't tell who the other 3 are :\ | ||
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Snowfield
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throttled
United States382 Posts
On October 27 2010 11:29 KevinIX wrote: It seems like Starcraft is all about macro. There is no macro in Chess. Starcraft is also about multitasking. There is no multitasking in Chess. Starcraft is also about unit composition and countering the opponent's composition. There is no unit composition in Chess. Starcraft is about stutter step, unit surrounds, forcefields, storm dodging. There is no micro in Chess. Chess is about anticipating your opponent's moves and countering them. There is a little of that in Starcraft. I wouldn't really consider Chess that similar to Starcraft. Chess is a thinking game. Starcraft is more of a sport. And that makes Starcraft far superior than Chess to watch. I would consider Starcraft more similar to Football or Soccer than Chess. 1. Actually, in a way it is. Batteries remind me of unit comps/timing pushes based on unit comps a bit. 2. While technically, all of chess is micro. It is all army positioning. 3. There's a lot of this (Making a certain unit because you anticipate them making one, counter attacking because you anticipate them retreating, etc.) | ||
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matthewfoulkes
United Kingdom246 Posts
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shimpoe
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I'm Hoping for iNcontroL Smash Hands, similar to Hulk Smash Hands. | ||
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
On October 27 2010 19:02 throttled wrote: 1. Actually, in a way it is. Batteries remind me of unit comps/timing pushes based on unit comps a bit. 2. While technically, all of chess is micro. It is all army positioning. 3. There's a lot of this (Making a certain unit because you anticipate them making one, counter attacking because you anticipate them retreating, etc.) Idk why you compare something turn based to a RTS in the first place. Chess and Starcraft does not have alot in common, there is no recourse management in chess for example. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
On October 27 2010 19:02 throttled wrote: 1. Actually, in a way it is. Batteries remind me of unit comps/timing pushes based on unit comps a bit. 2. While technically, all of chess is micro. It is all army positioning. 3. There's a lot of this (Making a certain unit because you anticipate them making one, counter attacking because you anticipate them retreating, etc.) Maybe my definition is wrong, but I've always thought of micro/macro as technical skill, not tactics/strategy (which I consider their own seperate category). | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
On October 27 2010 13:57 okuraku wrote: Nice cast this week guys, it's becoming increasingly hard to listen to it at work because it's so hilarious / takes all my attention, lol ^^ Yeah, I had to stop. Now i just make a fool out of myself listening to it while walking home, going along streets sniggering and hollering like a crazy person. | ||
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DumEN
Sweden123 Posts
On October 27 2010 19:11 Snowfield wrote: Idk why you compare something turn based to a RTS in the first place. Chess and Starcraft does not have alot in common, there is no recourse management in chess for example. Actually, in chess tournaments they have to manage time; take more time to do one move than another move. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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