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caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
May 26 2011 13:31 GMT
#22801
Incontrol said something about focussing more on gaming rather than providing content, does that indicate his parting with NASL as well?
Harrow
Profile Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
May 26 2011 13:34 GMT
#22802
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.



It isn't always. It's pretty shitty to laugh at someone about any bodily characteristic if you don't know that person.

The difference here is between what friends say to each other and what people say about randoms or behind someone's back. The whole thing seemed like a joking exchange to me. "you're bad let's 1v1 bro" "yeah whatever you're short."
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
May 26 2011 13:35 GMT
#22803
On May 26 2011 22:31 caruso wrote:
Incontrol said something about focussing more on gaming rather than providing content, does that indicate his parting with NASL as well?


I doubt that would be the case, he is so heavily involved in the NASL that I doubt he would give that up. I just think he had too much on his plate and had to drop something and he decided to drop SOTG. He still wants to compete as a progamer and that means u have to practice and not just do casting, podcasts and other stuff.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 13:45:57
May 26 2011 13:37 GMT
#22804
On May 26 2011 22:31 caruso wrote:
Incontrol said something about focussing more on gaming rather than providing content, does that indicate his parting with NASL as well?

I just listened to the podcast again, he said he quit because of Inside the game. And then added something like "and casting and gaming etc". And for NASL, they won't change their casters for Season 1, but as far as I know they didn't reveal too much about Season 2, so we'll have to wait and see.

On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.

That's because in the former case, it's obviously a joke. Like, I can't seriously criticize you for your height, because you can't change that, so I clearly must be joking. If I tease you for being fat however, you can't know that and you probably think I'm offending you and it wasn't just a joke.
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 13:45:49
May 26 2011 13:40 GMT
#22805
--- Sorry, double post ---
Squirrel_x360a
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia305 Posts
May 26 2011 13:53 GMT
#22806
I just saw a post saying they would love to have DeMusliM on the show, and I would also love to support this. Ive been watching his and Rotterdam's show and his humour seems like something that would bring some new life into the show (hilarious stories of getting drunk and waking up with 2 girls in his bed in the morning). And he also has a large amount of Terran knowledge which I feel is missing on the show. Also, since the show is so late/early for Europeans, it is likely he would be amazingly drunk every week ^_^

The only thing that makes me wary, is he is part of EG, and if this crapola about EG not permitting players on the show is true, then hmmm.....
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
May 26 2011 13:56 GMT
#22807
Good luck Incontrol! It's not going to be the same show without you. Looking forward to whatever you decide to do for your last episode!

Also, I really don't know what's more surprising: that people chose to react to Geoff's leaving the show by jumping on his back about some random comment he made to huk - or that I'm still surprised by the arbitrarily meaningless bullshit that people will choose to make a big deal over and the actually meaningful things that people have completely lost sight of. I guess it's better than random balance discussions?
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 26 2011 14:01 GMT
#22808
On May 26 2011 22:40 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.

That's because in the former case, it's obviously a joke. Like, I can't seriously criticize you for your height, because you can't change that, so I clearly must be joking. If I tease you for being fat however, you can't know that and you probably think I'm offending you and it wasn't just a joke.


So if someone is handicapped, dwarf or has a big nose its ok to make fun of it because they cant change that, so it clearly must be a joke? I guess its just not my kind of humour.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 26 2011 14:05 GMT
#22809
On May 26 2011 17:26 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 14:57 Defacer wrote:
It's almost as if most of the people that listen to the show don't have male friends.

Haven't you guys busted your friend's chops before? Sheesh.

By the way -- part of being truly confident means having a sense of humour about yourself. Confident people are self-aware, understand their identity and how they're perceived, and are comfortable enough with their own skin to laugh at themselves.

So yes, a Swedish person might find InControl offensive ... if they were a wuss and a dumbass.





I've known alot of people that are really insecure that "bust their friend's chops" constantly cause they don't feel comfortable just being themselves, the same people can also joke about themselves. I know confident guys who have no idea how they are percieved and that can be very defensive/agressive about jokes aimed at them. Your generalizations aren't valid nor are they based on anything but opinion.


You're right, it is my opinion. And I don't disagree with your opinion or your own generalizations about people and behaviour, either.

But tell me, is everyone in Sweden this humorless? Do they mistake seriousness as a form of intelligence and maturity? You're bordering on self-parody right now.

Before you answer that question, the answer is no and no. I'm just trolling you because in some ways, your response inadvertently validated the generalization you're disputing.







prOxi.FighT
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 14:08:22
May 26 2011 14:07 GMT
#22810
On May 26 2011 23:01 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 22:40 blackone wrote:
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.

That's because in the former case, it's obviously a joke. Like, I can't seriously criticize you for your height, because you can't change that, so I clearly must be joking. If I tease you for being fat however, you can't know that and you probably think I'm offending you and it wasn't just a joke.


So if someone is handicapped, dwarf or has a big nose its ok to make fun of it because they cant change that, so it clearly must be a joke? I guess its just not my kind of humour.


Your name is Pekkz, I Bet you have a tiny pekker ROFL WAFFLEAFFLEAFFLE!
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 26 2011 14:12 GMT
#22811
On May 26 2011 23:07 prOxi.FighT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 23:01 Pekkz wrote:
On May 26 2011 22:40 blackone wrote:
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.

That's because in the former case, it's obviously a joke. Like, I can't seriously criticize you for your height, because you can't change that, so I clearly must be joking. If I tease you for being fat however, you can't know that and you probably think I'm offending you and it wasn't just a joke.


So if someone is handicapped, dwarf or has a big nose its ok to make fun of it because they cant change that, so it clearly must be a joke? I guess its just not my kind of humour.


Your name is Pekkz, I Bet you have a tiny pekker ROFL WAFFLEAFFLEAFFLE!


Its spelled pecker btw, lol.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 14:14:39
May 26 2011 14:13 GMT
#22812
On May 26 2011 23:01 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 22:40 blackone wrote:
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.

That's because in the former case, it's obviously a joke. Like, I can't seriously criticize you for your height, because you can't change that, so I clearly must be joking. If I tease you for being fat however, you can't know that and you probably think I'm offending you and it wasn't just a joke.


So if someone is handicapped, dwarf or has a big nose its ok to make fun of it because they cant change that, so it clearly must be a joke? I guess its just not my kind of humour.

It's fine if they don't mind. Similar to how racist, fat, religious, whatever jokes can be funny on someone's behalf assuming they find it funny and not offensive.
It all depends on how the person who could be offended takes it, and if you know the person you'll know if you can pull that joke or not.

I swear to you, there are plenty of dwarfs who don't mind joking/hearing jokes about their height. At the same time there are of course dwarfs who will see it as a cheap shot rather than a joke and possibly headbutt your groin.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
May 26 2011 14:15 GMT
#22813
On May 26 2011 22:56 Treehead wrote:
Good luck Incontrol! It's not going to be the same show without you. Looking forward to whatever you decide to do for your last episode!

Also, I really don't know what's more surprising: that people chose to react to Geoff's leaving the show by jumping on his back about some random comment he made to huk - or that I'm still surprised by the arbitrarily meaningless bullshit that people will choose to make a big deal over and the actually meaningful things that people have completely lost sight of. I guess it's better than random balance discussions?


Agreed, a surprising number of people seem to lack a general understanding of everday banter. Or perhaps they just need something to talk about...
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
May 26 2011 14:19 GMT
#22814
On May 25 2011 18:36 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 18:09 NoobSkills wrote:
On May 25 2011 17:56 MurMiLLo wrote:
Hope you guys realize that Geoff leaving is our faults. I never said anything to harm Geoff or sotg but I should have done something to shut the whining idiots up.
Sad to see iNcontroL go as he added fun to sotg with his jokes and impressions.


Incontrol leaving has nothing to do with what I presume is that you think he is leaving because of the hate posts. He is just too busy. Think about his life for a few seconds and this is just based off what I've seen / think to be right.

Trips all over for various events / meetings per week.
NASL - probably what 7 hours a day?
Workout - 1 hour (assumed)
Practice - as much as he can
Coaching - what ever comes his way
Inside the game - couple hours a week
Anna - probably an hour or so a day?
Not to forget to mention the normal stuff people do throughout the day.

Thank god he is so strong minded and lets it almost wash off him like water on a ducks back or however that is supposed to go -_-

Unfortunately though this might kill SOTG Sorry, the rest of you are really good, but he glues you all in.



It's so funny how you give one hour for incontrol to be with his girlfriend haha

"hmm i have to practice let me just be one hour with anna then i will send her off"

no, it doesn't work like that!


They live in different states now I do believe. Either way you're proving my point even more? Ty
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 14:26:33
May 26 2011 14:26 GMT
#22815
only i realized that incontrol looked aweful in those last shows he was in?
he looked exhaustet. so it makes sense hes taking some weight off his shoulders (derp herp joke).

i am a fan of incontrol because he did sotg but thats no reason for him to pick one podcast over another. who am i? in my eyes it looks awfully suspicious that he is doing the "EGish" inside the game but we dont know if that has anything to do with it. wait am i talking about exclusive incontrol broadcasting rights? fuck me what am i thinking...

im really hyped djWheat finally has his shit back together and launched OMG.tv maybe one day we will have a studio show like epileptic gaming once was. maybe JP could switch over to OMG.tv !!!! all in the same boat. that would be

AWWESOOOOME!!!!!!!!
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
May 26 2011 14:41 GMT
#22816
On May 26 2011 23:05 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 17:26 karpo wrote:
On May 26 2011 14:57 Defacer wrote:
It's almost as if most of the people that listen to the show don't have male friends.

Haven't you guys busted your friend's chops before? Sheesh.

By the way -- part of being truly confident means having a sense of humour about yourself. Confident people are self-aware, understand their identity and how they're perceived, and are comfortable enough with their own skin to laugh at themselves.

So yes, a Swedish person might find InControl offensive ... if they were a wuss and a dumbass.





I've known alot of people that are really insecure that "bust their friend's chops" constantly cause they don't feel comfortable just being themselves, the same people can also joke about themselves. I know confident guys who have no idea how they are percieved and that can be very defensive/agressive about jokes aimed at them. Your generalizations aren't valid nor are they based on anything but opinion.


You're right, it is my opinion. And I don't disagree with your opinion or your own generalizations about people and behaviour, either.

But tell me, is everyone in Sweden this humorless? Do they mistake seriousness as a form of intelligence and maturity? You're bordering on self-parody right now.

Before you answer that question, the answer is no and no. I'm just trolling you because in some ways, your response inadvertently validated the generalization you're disputing.



I have no problems with Incontrol messing with Huk, i never said i did. I personally don't find that kind of humor to be very fun but i don't mind it.

My post just argued that your definitions of what it is to be confident is just opinions and in my experience not really true.

Why am i bordering on self parody and how did i validate the generalizations? :O
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
May 26 2011 15:16 GMT
#22817
On a completely unrelated to all this stupid thread drama.

I'm honestly surprised that no one thought of mentioning that Protoss could really use an overhaul on the DT in HotS. Perhaps make it fly, move a little faster and have a ranged attack.



Too tired to come up with something witty.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 26 2011 15:20 GMT
#22818
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 21:31 QueueQueue wrote:
Man, people are so over-sensitive. They are joking around, it's fine. If you take offense to this, don't watch and develop a sense of humour. Even if you don't find it funny, accept that it was in a facetious gesture and stop making a big deal about it.

I am short, and get teased by my friends about it. I even poke fun at myself for my height all the time. It's not a big deal. People need to stop taking everything so seriously... Especially in an environment of friends (ie SOTG), in which they are talking about a VIDEO GAME.


Just accept that people are different. Some people will get offended by getting teased about whatever, some wont. But telling everyone who ever gets teased about something to develop a sence of humour is really ignorant.

Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.



How is it ignorant? In the context of what was happening in the show; in which parties on the show's panel are likely not taking any offence to the comic gestures (as they are friends), why should people feel obligated to feel offended on someone else's behalf? If HuK is being teased about his height (as he consistently is), why do people feel it's their place to defend him when he isn't in need of defending given the context of the gesture? I accept people are different; but that does not make it rational by any means.

I am simply stating that this is the show for what it is, and if people want to watch it, there are terms they have to accept in doing so. I say that people should develop a sense of humour because in no way, shape, or form should SotG adjust their content solely to appease the irrational responses "touchy" (which are the vast minority) people are giving. It's ridiculous the extent public figures have to go to, to ensure that every thing they say isn't completely taken out of context. Content is much better when people are more or less able to act as themselves and not worry about every sentence sparking controversy.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 26 2011 15:40 GMT
#22819
On May 27 2011 00:20 QueueQueue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 22:18 Pekkz wrote:
On May 26 2011 21:31 QueueQueue wrote:
Man, people are so over-sensitive. They are joking around, it's fine. If you take offense to this, don't watch and develop a sense of humour. Even if you don't find it funny, accept that it was in a facetious gesture and stop making a big deal about it.

I am short, and get teased by my friends about it. I even poke fun at myself for my height all the time. It's not a big deal. People need to stop taking everything so seriously... Especially in an environment of friends (ie SOTG), in which they are talking about a VIDEO GAME.


Just accept that people are different. Some people will get offended by getting teased about whatever, some wont. But telling everyone who ever gets teased about something to develop a sence of humour is really ignorant.

Its interesting though that people find it ok to tease someone about their height and other things that they cant change, but teasing someone about how fat they are etc is usually considered a low blow even though that is something you are responsible for.



How is it ignorant? In the context of what was happening in the show; in which parties on the show's panel are likely not taking any offence to the comic gestures (as they are friends), why should people feel obligated to feel offended on someone else's behalf? If HuK is being teased about his height (as he consistently is), why do people feel it's their place to defend him when he isn't in need of defending given the context of the gesture? I accept people are different; but that does not make it rational by any means.

I am simply stating that this is the show for what it is, and if people want to watch it, there are terms they have to accept in doing so. I say that people should develop a sense of humour because in no way, shape, or form should SotG adjust their content solely to appease the irrational responses "touchy" (which are the vast minority) people are giving. It's ridiculous the extent public figures have to go to, to ensure that every thing they say isn't completely taken out of context. Content is much better when people are more or less able to act as themselves and not worry about every sentence sparking controversy.


Do you actually think someone who is getting teased by their friends would say they dont think its funny and tell them to stop? No, pretty much everyone will try to laugh it off. Its more embarrasing if you act like you care then if you just laugh it off, but it doesnt mean you dont feel insulted.

Im not saying huk cares about it at all, im just saying he wouldnt say something about it if he actually did.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 15:43:25
May 26 2011 15:43 GMT
#22820
On May 26 2011 23:13 vyyye wrote:

I swear to you, there are plenty of dwarfs who don't mind joking/hearing jokes about their height. At the same time there are of course dwarfs who will see it as a cheap shot rather than a joke and possibly headbutt your groin.

Or take a near by shield and smash your head in :D
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