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dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
May 10 2011 12:22 GMT
#20801
re: liquid EG thing.

I see tylers point. And I see inc's point. EG guy coming in to say "we invited them and they didn't want to play" is really yea just a statement of facts. But it implies fault lies on the other side. If you don't clear up the whole issue, then people read it as liquid's fault.

At the same time, i don't think it's EG guy's place to explain liquids stance on why they didn't join. That should be a liquid guy's place / thing to do.
Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
KgKris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
May 10 2011 12:33 GMT
#20802
Will SOTG conflict with the UP/DOWN Matches tomorrow?
"The spider comes."
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 10 2011 12:36 GMT
#20803
On May 10 2011 21:33 KgKris wrote:
Will SOTG conflict with the UP/DOWN Matches tomorrow?

Yes it will be on at the same time.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
May 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#20804
On May 09 2011 18:59 Rabiator wrote:
Why is there a discussion about the basics of the game here?

Protoss only need 1 Probe to build a whole base; Terrans need an SCV for each building and add ons make production facilities temporarily unuseable; Zerg only need one Drone to build a new tech building and they can build new units with all of their larvae. Yadda yadda yadda ... basic stuff which make the Starcraft world go around and which wont be changed. Chronoboost, MULE, Larvae injections is just as different in defining the style of the races, so whats the point of arguing?

The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side of the fence, so lets return to the topic, which is the show and not the game balance.


Theres a discussion about the basics of the game, because the basics of the game are flat out fucking broken.

That's why.
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 10 2011 17:56 GMT
#20805
Oh man I hope they talk about Nestea game 5 vs SC today!
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
May 10 2011 18:04 GMT
#20806
On May 11 2011 02:42 Vetrocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 18:59 Rabiator wrote:
Why is there a discussion about the basics of the game here?

Protoss only need 1 Probe to build a whole base; Terrans need an SCV for each building and add ons make production facilities temporarily unuseable; Zerg only need one Drone to build a new tech building and they can build new units with all of their larvae. Yadda yadda yadda ... basic stuff which make the Starcraft world go around and which wont be changed. Chronoboost, MULE, Larvae injections is just as different in defining the style of the races, so whats the point of arguing?

The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side of the fence, so lets return to the topic, which is the show and not the game balance.


Theres a discussion about the basics of the game, because the basics of the game are flat out fucking broken.

That's why.

Everyone can say about another race that it is overpowered, and refer to some fact about that race's mechanics which portrays an advantage over the others. The point is that such statements say very little, without a huge amount of statistical data, evidence and comparative analysis to back up the claims.

F.ex. I could talk about SCV auto-repair, roach utility, force field strength, zerg production capacity, siege-tank damage, colossus range, overlord vision, infestors/fungal growth, MULEs, etc., etc., etc. Yet these would be meaningless statements which could really only help ME in venting about whatever issues I had with my latest game. My statements would not have any meaning in the context of discussing the balance of the game, simply because any of my claims could be countered tenfold with claims from the perspective of another race.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
May 10 2011 18:39 GMT
#20807
On May 10 2011 21:22 dogabutila wrote:
re: liquid EG thing.

I see tylers point. And I see inc's point. EG guy coming in to say "we invited them and they didn't want to play" is really yea just a statement of facts. But it implies fault lies on the other side. If you don't clear up the whole issue, then people read it as liquid's fault.

At the same time, i don't think it's EG guy's place to explain liquids stance on why they didn't join. That should be a liquid guy's place / thing to do.


Tyler was way out of line to be honest, Incontrol was spot on. The TL forums is THE place for the whole community to come together, if the EG guy couldnt say what he did then TL wouldnt function the way it does.

At the same time, it was funny to hear incontrol complain about bullying. :p
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
May 10 2011 18:44 GMT
#20808
On May 10 2011 21:36 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 21:33 KgKris wrote:
Will SOTG conflict with the UP/DOWN Matches tomorrow?

Yes it will be on at the same time.


yeah and not just any matches, it'll be the MMA/MKP/Huk group
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
May 10 2011 18:48 GMT
#20809
It will be interesting to hear opinions on hear opinions on the new GSL map.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
May 10 2011 18:54 GMT
#20810
In case people missed this:

@itmeJP JP McDaniel
State of the Game might be delayed till post GSL matches tonight. Will let you guys know once I speak with Tyler, Geoff and Sean
6 hours ago via web
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#20811
On May 11 2011 03:54 Charger wrote:
In case people missed this:

@itmeJP JP McDaniel
State of the Game might be delayed till post GSL matches tonight. Will let you guys know once I speak with Tyler, Geoff and Sean
6 hours ago via web


Nooooooooooooo!!!!

Actually not a big deal for me.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 10 2011 23:12 GMT
#20812
blah
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#20813
JP said on SC Center that SOTG will be going on at the normal time and that they will talk about the Huk games as they are being played.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
May 10 2011 23:16 GMT
#20814
On May 11 2011 02:42 Vetrocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 18:59 Rabiator wrote:
Why is there a discussion about the basics of the game here?

Protoss only need 1 Probe to build a whole base; Terrans need an SCV for each building and add ons make production facilities temporarily unuseable; Zerg only need one Drone to build a new tech building and they can build new units with all of their larvae. Yadda yadda yadda ... basic stuff which make the Starcraft world go around and which wont be changed. Chronoboost, MULE, Larvae injections is just as different in defining the style of the races, so whats the point of arguing?

The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side of the fence, so lets return to the topic, which is the show and not the game balance.


Theres a discussion about the basics of the game, because the basics of the game are flat out fucking broken.

That's why.



This is so awesome to look at. Hate the game more, but you know you're already over 100 posts and you're still going to play or watch Sc2 for 3+ hours every day
Micro your Macro
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
May 10 2011 23:19 GMT
#20815
On May 11 2011 08:14 jmbthirteen wrote:
JP said on SC Center that SOTG will be going on at the normal time and that they will talk about the Huk games as they are being played.


:O
That should be awesome
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 10 2011 23:41 GMT
#20816
On May 11 2011 08:16 CookieMaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 02:42 Vetrocide wrote:
On May 09 2011 18:59 Rabiator wrote:
Why is there a discussion about the basics of the game here?

Protoss only need 1 Probe to build a whole base; Terrans need an SCV for each building and add ons make production facilities temporarily unuseable; Zerg only need one Drone to build a new tech building and they can build new units with all of their larvae. Yadda yadda yadda ... basic stuff which make the Starcraft world go around and which wont be changed. Chronoboost, MULE, Larvae injections is just as different in defining the style of the races, so whats the point of arguing?

The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side of the fence, so lets return to the topic, which is the show and not the game balance.


Theres a discussion about the basics of the game, because the basics of the game are flat out fucking broken.

That's why.



This is so awesome to look at. Hate the game more, but you know you're already over 100 posts and you're still going to play or watch Sc2 for 3+ hours every day

wow looking forward to this !
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 10 2011 23:47 GMT
#20817
I love how SOTG is still never on the calendar despite jp complaining to hot_bid about it already hahahahah
d=(^_^)z
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
May 10 2011 23:57 GMT
#20818
why the heck is delayed until after the GSL?????? Seriously? So its going to start at like, 3 am now? How do you expect anyone to watch?
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#20819
On May 11 2011 08:57 Marcus420 wrote:
why the heck is delayed until after the GSL?????? Seriously? So its going to start at like, 3 am now? How do you expect anyone to watch?

gsl starts 4 hours from now. check the calendar...
d=(^_^)z
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
May 11 2011 00:00 GMT
#20820
On May 11 2011 08:57 Marcus420 wrote:
why the heck is delayed until after the GSL?????? Seriously? So its going to start at like, 3 am now? How do you expect anyone to watch?


GSL starts at 10:30 cst tonight.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
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