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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
On August 11 2010 00:11 kajeus wrote: Could it be because everywhere you go, every time a prominent English-speaking zerg player opens his mouth, people float the completely unproven claim that zerg is underpowered? Yeah, that's probably it. | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On August 11 2010 06:22 Ghoro wrote: When it comes to Zerg and an imbalance the one name that always gets brought up is IdrA. Of course we all know he is very very vocal about his opinion when it comes to this, but has he ever said why it is imbalanced for ZvT and why Zerg is underpowered? Has he ever said what he thinks is imbalance and what needs to be changed? Like trying to give his insite in to what may need to be change to help balance this game? If so it would be very interesting to read what he thinks, so far all I have seen from him is "T SUPER OP, you suck so much, now go kill your self, I'm more special then you" He has said what he thinks in depth, actually. Do a search for IdrA's posts in the search bar. He thinks that terrans have too many early-game rush options and zergs have no way to scout for them, basically. That's what I took away as his major gripe. Look it up to see for yourself, though. | ||
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Ghoro
United States21 Posts
On August 11 2010 06:24 kajeus wrote: He has said what he thinks in depth, actually. Do a search for IdrA's posts in the search bar. He thinks that terrans have too many early-game rush options and zergs have no way to scout for it, basically. That's what I took away as his major gripe. Look it up to see for yourself, though. Oh ok thanks, I just wasn't sure. | ||
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
On August 11 2010 05:03 SpaceYeti wrote: How do you report a post? Srsly, this needs to end. How do I report your post? Seriously, it needs to end. If you disagree with ZvT being imba, dont post here. ZvT imba has a number of valid arguments based on solid facts. I don't want to hear whinning about whinning; whinning is what gets Blizzard to balance the game out. | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
League Random Protoss Terran Zerg Diamond 56.08% (223,037) 56.42% (925,858) 56.74% (746,866) 56.24% (629,948) you understand that these stats are wrong now do u , unless somehow we can measure 224% out of 100 next time find a better site cause this is bs rly fyi terran is like 30% more than zerg but that site gives 56% to both | ||
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Joroth
United States318 Posts
On August 11 2010 06:45 st3roids wrote: About statistics and sc2 rnaks League Random Protoss Terran Zerg Diamond 56.08% (223,037) 56.42% (925,858) 56.74% (746,866) 56.24% (629,948) you understand that these stats are wrong now do u , unless somehow we can measure 224% out of 100 next time find a better site cause this is bs rly fyi terran is like 30% more than zerg but that site gives 56% to both you know those are win rates right? | ||
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Demi9OD
United States56 Posts
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Silu
Finland165 Posts
On August 11 2010 06:45 st3roids wrote: About statistics and sc2 rnaks League Random Protoss Terran Zerg Diamond 56.08% (223,037) 56.42% (925,858) 56.74% (746,866) 56.24% (629,948) you understand that these stats are wrong now do u , unless somehow we can measure 224% out of 100 next time find a better site cause this is bs rly fyi terran is like 30% more than zerg but that site gives 56% to both ... what? You do realize that those are the average race win ratios, right? So if I have 60% win in the ladder and you have 60%, that can't be right because it adds up to over 100%? I hope you're going for some weird sarcasm I don't quite get. On topic, I actually think the supposed imbalance only counts for a tiny portion of the Zerg deficit. People play Terran because of the campaign, Protoss because they like tidy and shiny things. This along with the different mechanics (that you don't learn at all in the campaign) the Zerg have make people play them less. | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On August 11 2010 00:14 Icks wrote: Because people make threads about Zerg being: - played less - or weak - or hard to master Which one is true? I dont want to know. But the vast majority of sc2 players don't read threads in TL forums, or even Battle.net forums. The mechanics of zerg play are just a little harder to grasp than the other 2 races. During placement matches I've seen zergs neglect building workers to focus more on troop build-up, which is disastrous in the long run. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
And I do not believe it was because of weird mechanics or anything like that. Zerg were very popular during phase 1 of beta. | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Watching replays from some of the top players and reading advice on these forums, Zerg nowadays is spread creep, run around your creep, wait for opponent to push and attack him when he makes a mistake. It's a defensive playstyle without all the turtling advantages of terran and protoss. Not to mention having to wait too often for your contained opponent to mine out his bases before being able to finish him off. | ||
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Opinion
United States236 Posts
1. Gaems R 4 Fun. 2. Zerg not as Fun! Ok, enough of that. Whether or not this "lack of fun" is simply player opinion, lack of unit diversity, Imbalance, difficulty, learning curve, Illuminati conspiracy, Blizzard sadism, race misunderstanding or coincidental mass hysteria IS IRRELEVANT. If could be all of these and more, there is no limit to what could be causing this fun imbalance. For some reason players enjoy playing Terran and Protoss and have little to complain about, while those who play Zerg feel cheated and shat upon. This lack of evenly distributed enjoyment is a problem in and of itself. If all 3 races are not evenly played and enjoyed you can bet Blizzard will make changes. I'd bet my left nipple that Blizzard fully intends for all 3 races to be loved by those who play them. TLDR: Zerg is not having as much fun, Games are for fun, trouble is brewing. | ||
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Glufs
Norway78 Posts
On August 11 2010 07:12 Opinion wrote: I'll say this in idiot speak. 1. Gaems R 4 Fun. 2. Zerg not as Fun! Ok, enough of that. Whether or not this "lack of fun" is simply player opinion, lack of unit diversity, Imbalance, difficulty, learning curve, Illuminati conspiracy, Blizzard sadism, race misunderstanding or coincidental mass hysteria IS IRRELEVANT. I don't think it's irrelevant at all. It's interesting to debate what might make Zerg less fun. | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
BTW this isn't the blizzard forums go bitch there, theres about 50million threads about this and you all repeat the same thing like a god damn broken record. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
On August 11 2010 07:19 muse5187 wrote: This thread has become a shit storm of flaming kids that don't know crap. BTW this isn't the blizzard forums go bitch there, theres about 50million threads about this and you all repeat the same thing like a god damn broken record. Thanks for your brilliant input. There's so many topics because there's a problem. | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On August 11 2010 07:28 pieisamazing wrote: Thanks for your brilliant input. There's so many topics because there's a problem. Yes, I agree users don't know how to play zerg. | ||
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Glufs
Norway78 Posts
On August 11 2010 07:30 muse5187 wrote: Yes, I agree users don't know how to play zerg. This thread is essentially not about zerg being underpowered. It's about why zerg is played less. | ||
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