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United States33712 Posts
It's all valid stuff, OP is just too lazy to link 15 articles.
On August 04 2010 09:46 Waxangel wrote:
Very disappointing PC Bang usage numbers for first week of release in Korea, but I've found it hard to find information about what kind of installation rate SC II has in PC Bangs in general right now. If PC Bang owners are truly opposed to the pricing policy, I suppose it's possible that they could continue to stifle the popularity of SC II at their establishments.
Blizzard hasn't released any numbers regarding unlimited use licenses yet (essentially the digital download for NA and EU), which I suppose they'll release at the end of the current Open Beta (which is practically a 1 month free trial for everyone in Korea).
What I'm really interested right now is accurate Battle.net user stats for SC II in Korea, but according to what I read the current B.net measurement system is very buggy and inaccurate. Once that's sorted out and we can see how many people are logged into SC II at peak hours, I think we'll have a decent picture of how well SC II is doing in Kor.
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On August 04 2010 13:50 sjschmidt93 wrote:
I want to hear from IdrA/Tasteless/Artosis, they could tell us what it's like there.
So you want to hear from the guys who's career depends on the success of this game? What do you think they'll tell you?
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To be honest, it really doesn't bother me, for now i'm enjoying the hell out of SC2, and i still love watching pro BW from Korea, so it's all good for me. If they do decide to switch to SC2 in the future, that's great!
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On August 04 2010 13:52 grobo wrote:
To be honest, it really doesn't bother me, for now i'm enjoying the hell out of SC2, and i still love watching pro BW from Korea, so it's all good for me. If they do decide to switch to SC2 in the future, that's great!
yea, i'm fine with esports succeeding anywhere, korea doesn't have to be the epicenter of starcraft
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Don't hear Moon and his enormous salary go around complaining about how WC3 failed in korea.
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i hope this info isnt true, because to be honest starcraft 2 is a much better game than the the original. just overall its more polished and ah nevermind just read pretty much any review, but thats beside the point. i would be surprised if the koreans didnt want to see how the story played out. i understand i the pros dont want to make the switch but its freaking STARCRAFT 2!
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thanks for the information. Its sad. but really, the game isnt that good of a game.. like WC3 in space. No feeling and no visual clearity. oh well, ill get on with my life now.
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United States47024 Posts
On August 04 2010 13:51 Waxangel wrote:It's all valid stuff, OP is just too lazy to link 15 articles. Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 09:46 Waxangel wrote:
Very disappointing PC Bang usage numbers for first week of release in Korea, but I've found it hard to find information about what kind of installation rate SC II has in PC Bangs in general right now. If PC Bang owners are truly opposed to the pricing policy, I suppose it's possible that they could continue to stifle the popularity of SC II at their establishments.
Blizzard hasn't released any numbers regarding unlimited use licenses yet (essentially the digital download for NA and EU), which I suppose they'll release at the end of the current Open Beta (which is practically a 1 month free trial for everyone in Korea).
What I'm really interested right now is accurate Battle.net user stats for SC II in Korea, but according to what I read the current B.net measurement system is very buggy and inaccurate. Once that's sorted out and we can see how many people are logged into SC II at peak hours, I think we'll have a decent picture of how well SC II is doing in Kor.
Fair enough, though I think the OP could have tried using a far less incendiary tone when discussing the game in the SC2 forums. The tone seems like he's specifically trying to pick a fight by saying how "bad" Starcraft 2 is.
I'm sort of interested in the last quote in the OP, seeing as I think it's unlikely that an "industry expert" who is in a position to address the marketing side of SC2 would also be informed enough to say with certainty that SC2 is not as good as SC1.
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On August 04 2010 13:55 OneFierceZealot wrote:
i hope this info isnt true, because to be honest starcraft 2 is a much better game than the the original. just overall its more polished and ah nevermind just read pretty much any review, but thats beside the point. i would be surprised if the koreans didnt want to see how the story played out. i understand i the pros dont want to make the switch but its freaking STARCRAFT 2!
Game reviewers know best!!!
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To be honest, it really doesn't bother me, for now i'm enjoying the hell out of SC2, and i still love watching pro BW from Korea, so it's all good for me. If they do decide to switch to SC2 in the future, that's great!
Yeah, it really doesn't bother me either. SC2 is awesome, but the BW scene is fun too. SC2 is already an e-sport, and there will be Korean tournaments even if it's not the biggest thing ever there. It's for the best that it does well there...but that doesn't necessarily mean being the Second Coming of SC1.
And anyway, it's hard to gauge just how popular it is with the whole "open beta" thing now where everyone can play it at home.
But Blizzard should change the PC bang pricing ASAP. That should help a lot with the Internet Cafe numbers.
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this guy pretends like he knows what he's talking about but he doesn't. Korea and taiwan have the free open beta going on so thats y they dont include them. Mr conspiracy theory lol but the game is pretty terrible atm for casuals
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The game is good, I just really think starcraft is too hard for most people. I mean, look at the sales for MW2 and their ridiculous mappacks. Simple seems to be what sells and starcraft isn't that.
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It's odd that it hasn't performed better, perhaps there are hardware issues we aren't aware of.
Most people in the USA are just picking it up for custom maps and the single player, and will only try ladder a few times. I am surprised this is not happening in Korea.
Regardless of how the ladder/competition stacks up to BW it's still a great game.
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On August 04 2010 13:55 OneFierceZealot wrote:
i hope this info isnt true, because to be honest starcraft 2 is a much better game than the the original. just overall its more polished and ah nevermind just read pretty much any review, but thats beside the point. i would be surprised if the koreans didnt want to see how the story played out. i understand i the pros dont want to make the switch but its freaking STARCRAFT 2!
It doesn't exactly work that way there. When a game has become ingrained deeply into the national conscious as it has there--which is unique for a game in any part of the world--it's a lot more difficult to push it aside for what's being touted as the next big thing. Imagine Baseball II coming to the US...it wouldn't happen. Any other sequel in any other situation would be accepted as cool, exciting, and with Starcraft 2's quality, the biggest esport on the block. But with BW's fame and 12-year standing in korea, it's like an immobile rock. It's not A game, it's THE game. Western BW was already fading, slowly but surely.
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I'd rather have a fail in Korea than fail in everything else. Besides, we enjoy it, so who cares?
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hahaha this is just so much fun
dont know if any of u were around in 1998 but.....oh well
dont know what u guys expect, sc2 release, next day 12 pro teams and televised games nonstop with idra in a spacesuit?
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people will always cling to that one thing that has been there and they loved. The republic of korea, along with millions elsewhere, still love their older, yet sometimes better, Starcraft Brood War. Once things begin to change, just as they did for users on Battle Net 1.0 on the 27th of July, the only ones left will be the most loyal, refusing to leave their game. Many will switch over, but many will stay. It will happen, but it may take a few months or so. I would give it until Christmas, then there will be a change.
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On August 04 2010 14:02 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
hahaha this is just so much fun
dont know if any of u were around in 1998 but.....oh well
dont know what u guys expect, sc2 release, next day 12 pro teams and televised games nonstop with idra in a spacesuit?
Apparently they do. SC2 is going great so far. I don't know what some people are seeing.
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On August 04 2010 14:02 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
hahaha this is just so much fun
dont know if any of u were around in 1998 but.....oh well
dont know what u guys expect, sc2 release, next day 12 pro teams and televised games nonstop with idra in a spacesuit?
starcraft in 1998 in korea was an unknown entity
in 2010, the series is not.
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On August 04 2010 13:55 Sfydjklm wrote:
Don't hear Moon and his enormous salary go around complaining about how WC3 failed in korea.
haha nice! I can't even tell why watching WC3 is even good compared to BW and moon makes the $$$$
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