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TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
August 09 2010 00:51 GMT
#561
Why was this bumped ? Well, I hope Starcraft II eventually catches on after a year or so. Maybe after the expansions. Who knows...
coLCruncher fighting!
Taniard
Profile Joined June 2010
United States114 Posts
August 09 2010 00:53 GMT
#562
Dude you're a joke. Lol have you played this game? It's flipping sweet. Definitely one of the best RTS games I've played in a long time... Don't see this failing

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An amateur practices until he can get it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
August 09 2010 00:54 GMT
#563
So koreans decided not to embrace sc2, guess what, it still sold really well worldwide. SC1 was made professional in korea, sc2 doesn't have to be.
"Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined." Learn how to post: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
TheGeo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States51 Posts
August 09 2010 00:59 GMT
#564
I'm glad korea is not really into SC2. The entire "everything outside of korea relating to starcraft is foreign" is bothersome to me. Blizzard is HQ'ed in the USA. Korean starcraft is the foreign one to me.
Geo the Geo
antlu65
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
August 09 2010 01:05 GMT
#565
Looks like I bought into the hype too much.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
August 09 2010 01:08 GMT
#566
isn't the poster shown to be obvious biased?
i like cheese
hadoken5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada519 Posts
August 09 2010 01:13 GMT
#567
I think the low popularity in internet cafes is because players aren't good at it yet, once they get better at it they will want to play it more because right now people may just stick to SC1 because they are good at it. I do think this will all change when there are bigger tournaments and more worldwide coverage, so it feels as much as a sport as SC1. I also think that a huge impact will be if Terran became harder to play because right now watching Terran play isn't an observation of skill, unless it's TLO, since its the most popular race, you see too much of the same thing from them. I think that if people were to play Zerg and Protoss more then there would be much more attention, or at least if Terran was harder to play.
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
August 09 2010 01:29 GMT
#568
On August 09 2010 10:13 hadoken5 wrote:
I think the low popularity in internet cafes is because players aren't good at it yet, once they get better at it they will want to play it more because right now people may just stick to SC1 because they are good at it. I do think this will all change when there are bigger tournaments and more worldwide coverage, so it feels as much as a sport as SC1. I also think that a huge impact will be if Terran became harder to play because right now watching Terran play isn't an observation of skill, unless it's TLO, since its the most popular race, you see too much of the same thing from them. I think that if people were to play Zerg and Protoss more then there would be much more attention, or at least if Terran was harder to play.


But if they never play it, they'll never get better. Getting good at SC1 can only get you so far in SC2.
Aiyeeeee
Mike941
Profile Joined December 2008
United States98 Posts
August 11 2010 22:32 GMT
#569
Don't know if this has been asked already but is there a place were i can get these stats in english?
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
August 11 2010 22:36 GMT
#570
LOL @ deeming SC2 a failure in Korea at this point. Given SC:BW's cemented status, it's pretty obvious a transition will take time. As tournaments like the one GOMTV is hosting soon starts popping up I'm positive it'll grow huge and, down the line, take over.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Mike941
Profile Joined December 2008
United States98 Posts
August 11 2010 22:50 GMT
#571
On August 12 2010 07:36 koOma wrote:
LOL @ deeming SC2 a failure in Korea at this point. Given SC:BW's cemented status, it's pretty obvious a transition will take time. As tournaments like the one GOMTV is hosting soon starts popping up I'm positive it'll grow huge and, down the line, take over.


I wasn't asking for stats about SC2 failing. I'm just wondering if i can find the S.K. pc bang stats in english.
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
August 11 2010 23:22 GMT
#572
On August 09 2010 09:59 TheGeo wrote:
I'm glad korea is not really into SC2. The entire "everything outside of korea relating to starcraft is foreign" is bothersome to me. Blizzard is HQ'ed in the USA. Korean starcraft is the foreign one to me.


I do agree the use of the word foreign is slightly odd considering it's even used by non-Korean players to describe non-Koreans, but why is it relevant where Blizzard's HQ is located?

It's a game, released in multiple languages, to play on the internet, a global, international network.
It'd be equally odd to call any non-USA players foreign.

TL:DR; I agree with your sentiment, but your argument supporting it doesn't make sense.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11557 Posts
August 11 2010 23:24 GMT
#573
Well it's not exactly that odd since even though the game was designed in the US, the Koreans embraced it much much more than the US. There are so many events in Korea that revolve around SCBW and they have incorporated it into their culture a bit. SK really is the place the go for SCBW so it makes sense that everybody else is foreign.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Chrion
Profile Joined March 2010
United States31 Posts
August 11 2010 23:36 GMT
#574
one great game between Jaedong, Fantasy, Flash, or Bisu that gets the people to say WOW did you see that!, and BAM, the game takes off. It should have been set up so that the Pro's would have started a big tournament on television the week SC2 was released. They should have had the end of season of BW and honored the best BW players ever in a hall of fame type ceremony, tears, hugs and memories ensue, and then began the SC2 OSL era immediately.
micro, macro, micro, macro, ahhhhhhhh!!!!
Shaddox
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania3 Posts
August 13 2010 14:25 GMT
#575
The major asspain of the Blizzard Defense Force is hilarious. Keep it coming guys.
One fence too many.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 13 2010 14:33 GMT
#576
On August 13 2010 23:25 Shaddox wrote:
The major asspain of the Blizzard Defense Force is hilarious. Keep it coming guys.

Proleague Finals was 2nd lowest attendance ever, only beating last year's attendance. Brood War peaked long ago and has been stagnant or declining in ratings since. Let it ride out into the sunset, it's time.
jp_zer0
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada48 Posts
August 13 2010 15:42 GMT
#577
On August 07 2010 03:19 Mellotron wrote:
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On August 07 2010 03:10 Ndugu wrote:
On August 07 2010 03:04 Mellotron wrote:
On August 07 2010 02:56 Random() wrote:
@Mellotron

"vinyl is 100 percent undeniably superior in audio quality, there is no debate"

No debate, huh? Show me just one of those wannabe-audiophiles who can tell vinyl from a properly mastered CD in at least 80% of cases in a double-blind test and I will eat my socks.


There is no debate. You are completely uninformed on this subject matter and about to embarrass yourself. The proof is in the fact that you think mastering somehow increases the available 1s and 0s. Lets not take this too far off topic. You are wrong. Use the internet to your advantage my friend. Many articles have been written and audio tests have been done that prove and reprove this to be a fact. Vinyl is a physical entity. 1s and 0s have gaps in between the 1s and 0s. You arent hearing all of the audio when you listen to a digital recording. You are hearing an approximation. This is not opinion this is fact, and quite commonly known in the audio world. Until bit rates go way way way up, digital will be baby talk compared to the literary genius of a vinyl record. And even then, it will still be 1s and 0s with tiny little stair-step gaps in between them.


Some people prefer things that are harder, older, less accessible, and less enjoyable for most. Vinyl and Brood War will continue to exist for you guys.

What I don't get is why anyone expects SC II to be making money in Korea as long as its still free. This shouldn't even be a conversation until the game STOPS BEING FREE. rofl.


Yeah but, people dont choose vinyl and BW because its older and harder. Its just a coincidence. Not one person here who prefers BW chose that because its "older". Its the content they value. Same for records. By the way, i dont know how much "less enjoyable" vinyl is. Its way bassier than cds. CDs cant go as low as vinyl can. Electronica and hip hop will always sound better played on vinyl. Orchestral recordings will always sound better on vinyl as well, because vinyl also goes sonically higher than a cd can. People choose vinyl for those reasons, not for exclusivity as you seem to claim. Exclusivity is always cited when the person debating feels unincluded in what they are arguing against. But its not that that keeps people coming back to BW, its the actual content.

Digital audio can contain notes both lower and higher than the human ear can pick up. Either way the comparison between vinyl and digital is not that simple. Cheap vinyl setup will sound bad, cheap digital setup will sound bad. If you haven't heard top of the line D/A converters by Electrocompaniet/Abrahamsen or Audio-GD, I don't think you can say anything about digital audio.

(I'll assume this is relevant to the topic somehow. Haven't seen the root of this debate, sorry if it isn't.)
some_noob
Profile Joined August 2010
160 Posts
August 13 2010 15:55 GMT
#578
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OP

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Sagioio
Profile Joined May 2010
United States27 Posts
August 13 2010 16:03 GMT
#579
Personally even if everything stated by the OP is true, I dont care if it isnt as popular in Korea.

It will still be at the WCG etc, there will still be major tournaments for it, if Koreans dont wanna play it then I guess we just need to find some other group willing to be the target of the stereotypes

Gosu -> Sehr-Gut ?
Playgu -> Baller ?
Knowledge is Power. Ignorance is Bliss
tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 16:05:55
August 13 2010 16:05 GMT
#580
On August 09 2010 08:08 awesomoecalypse wrote:
What I don't understand is why Blizzard don't just buy the top BW players for SC2?

Seriously, if they just directly approached all of the top players in BW--Flash, JD, etc.--and offered them more money to come play SC2 than they are making in BW, it would instantly ramp up the competitive scene in SC2, while eliminating all competition from BW. Hell, why not get Boxer too? He's not the top player now, but he's still a huge name, and a lot of people would tune into watch him.

For an investment of $5-10 mil (pocket change for Blizzard), I guarantee you they could instantly lure all of the top player into switching games. It wouldn't even matter that Flash and JD don't play SC2--offer them each $500,000-$1,000,000 a year in guaranteed salary for the next couple years, and they would absolutely make the switch.

With no top players left in BW, PC Bangs would have to get with the program.


because blizzard really doesnt give a fuck about esports. they want game sales.
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