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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 10:27:14
August 04 2010 10:25 GMT
#221
hell Blizzard couldn't even replicate stacking mutalisks.



they deemed it overpowered and removed mutalisk stacking after a player stacked 40 mutalisks and oneshotted buildings.

its a new game. Popularity takes time. The west is having a NOW NOW NOW attitude while Korea probably went with a more, lets wait for a few moments or even years. There is no need for them to transition fully into sc2 and then just forget about broodwar.

The commotion is apparently about how little it is being played in pc baangs.
"Mudkip"
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
August 04 2010 10:26 GMT
#222
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?
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Pking
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden142 Posts
August 04 2010 10:26 GMT
#223
On August 04 2010 19:25 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
hell Blizzard couldn't even replicate stacking mutalisks.



they deemed it overpowered and removed mutalisk stacking after a player stacked 40 mutalisks and oneshotted buildings.


Not to mention stacking mutalisk was a bug and it looks stupid.
Jaydden
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 10:30:32
August 04 2010 10:28 GMT
#224
lol i dont even know what this discussion is going about?

for the last three days i was watching starcraft2 streams with my roommate, as the qualification for the german EPS is up and running and there is the IEM to come in 2 weeks, which will be screened in german television!!! and my roommate istn even into computergames.
sc2 is just the best thing to watch EVER. its better than soccer, friends of mine come by and just keep hanging in front of the monitor because its so great to watch.

sc2 in europe/germany is by now allready bigger thann BW ever was, so personally i dont give a thought about korea. let them do whatever they want - if they feel like they need to stick to some medieval game from before a decade, so shall it be.

meanwhile esports is growing into something serious over here, with the first players like TLO starting to play sc2 fulltime and its going to grow.

oh PS: what nazgul says!
Pking
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden142 Posts
August 04 2010 10:35 GMT
#225
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?


Some people are angry over broken expectations so they are looking for signs that the whole thing will crash and burn.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 04 2010 10:41 GMT
#226
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?

That's not true, why else would they mention SC2 not having good SALES? Not only is it highly underperforming in sales, but it isn't being given much playtime either, given the information. I'm sure that playtime includes the "free beta".
Writerptrk
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 04 2010 10:42 GMT
#227
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?

Well the statistics cited in the OP are about PC bang playtime, which I assume would include the free beta.
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Egnarts
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark33 Posts
August 04 2010 10:43 GMT
#228
On August 04 2010 19:41 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?

That's not true, why else would they mention SC2 not having good SALES? Not only is it highly underperforming in sales, but it isn't being given much playtime either, given the information. I'm sure that playtime includes the "free beta".


Remember, everything the newspapers print is the ultimate truth, that's just how it is!
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 10:48:31
August 04 2010 10:43 GMT
#229
On August 04 2010 19:41 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?

That's not true, why else would they mention SC2 not having good SALES? Not only is it highly underperforming in sales, but it isn't being given much playtime either, given the information. I'm sure that playtime includes the "free beta".

You can play SC2 at your home for completely free. (Open Beta)
The PCBang next door charges you money for playing there.

Which one do you choose? Nobody but Blizzard has real information on how many are playing it from their homes. This figure is probably huge.

edit: Renamed the thread from sensationalist bullshit to what it actually is.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 04 2010 10:44 GMT
#230
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?


Bro, this is the internet. If the masses aren't panicked or in an uproar about something that means the universe unfolds on itself.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 04 2010 10:49 GMT
#231
I wish two things.

I wish I could read Korean so I could see what the sources say, although I don't doubt what OP says.
And I also wish people would stop being so naive and shallow and arrogant. Why is everyone crying and going "lol sure w/e someone ban this kid". Especially if what he says might be right? I know SC2 isn't for sale in the same sense in Korea as it is here, but he said it was measured by "play time" mainly, which makes perfect sense to me.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
EximoSua2
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States216 Posts
August 04 2010 10:53 GMT
#232
Korea's approval is not important. I know that sounds ludicrous, but it's time to get over them. There's a big wide world outside of them, and we are embracing and loving SC2.
inTheMood
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 10:54:54
August 04 2010 10:53 GMT
#233
On August 04 2010 19:28 Jaydden wrote:
lol i dont even know what this discussion is going about?

for the last three days i was watching starcraft2 streams with my roommate, as the qualification for the german EPS is up and running and there is the IEM to come in 2 weeks, which will be screened in german television!!! and my roommate istn even into computergames.
sc2 is just the best thing to watch EVER. its better than soccer, friends of mine come by and just keep hanging in front of the monitor because its so great to watch.

sc2 in europe/germany is by now allready bigger thann BW ever was, so personally i dont give a thought about korea. let them do whatever they want - if they feel like they need to stick to some medieval game from before a decade, so shall it be.

meanwhile esports is growing into something serious over here, with the first players like TLO starting to play sc2 fulltime and its going to grow.

oh PS: what nazgul says!


This is so true.

I had a few friends over the other day to show them SC2. I did a few ladder games, and MAN you should've heard them cheer when my blings/slings and mutalisks destroyed my opponents hydralisk. It was SO much fun, and even tho they didn't understand everything (yet), they really enjoyed it way more than i.e football :D

I'm of course hoping that the Koreans will turn to SC2, but it's not a MUST for this game to succeed. It's already very big in Europe and it has just been released. There will be alot of Tourneys and I'm really looking forward to see progamers form this game and make new, cool strats.

Edit: what EximoSua2 said
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 04 2010 10:58 GMT
#234
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?


Of course that there will be commotion. The way SC2 is accepted in Korea is very important for many people. Some will be happy to see SC2 played by the korean massively, other dream about being SC2 progamers in Korea themselves, a lot of people will love to see how the bw gosus can handle SC2.

For me, this is important, because it may mark the end of bw pro-scene. Scene I`ve been following for 7-8 years.

The op is not so much that the game is being sold badly in SK, but more that it is not so open-heartedly accepted by the people who made SC1 almost a mainstream culture.

Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
August 04 2010 10:59 GMT
#235
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?


If the game is not for sale there, then why not close the topic, since the claims made by the OP are out of palce?
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 04 2010 11:03 GMT
#236
On August 04 2010 19:59 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?


If the game is not for sale there, then why not close the topic, since the claims made by the OP are out of palce?


there are other things to the article. About PC Bang net game usage statistics, so I don't think this should be closed. but i do think that they are just taking their time switching over, and probably not playing SC2 in PC Bangs as much because of the fact that they can play it for free from their homes. So I still think that these particular statistics are not representative of the actual feelings average koreans have toward the game.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4461 Posts
August 04 2010 11:04 GMT
#237
On August 04 2010 19:53 EximoSua2 wrote:
Korea's approval is not important. I know that sounds ludicrous, but it's time to get over them. There's a big wide world outside of them, and we are embracing and loving SC2.

it won't be important for the first say 3-4 years
after that it will become more important as the western player pool falls off a cliff to play the latest new thing
broodwar would have been dead a loooong time ago without korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7109 Posts
August 04 2010 11:06 GMT
#238
People aren't playing it at PC Bangs because they can play it for free at their homes. PC Bang playtime goes down. StarCraft 2 is played more at home, too bad nobody but Blizzard has access to that data. We can't make any good guesses at how much play time is put in to it before Blizzard releases information.

The game is at open beta and is completely free, yet these "game industry experts" are wondering why people aren't buying it. That's retarded, why would anyone buy a game when they can try it out for free and paying gives them nothing extra?

The article is very misguiding, we have absolutely no information about how much of a success has SC2 been in Korea because we just don't have access to such information. Media being media, such a big fucking surprise.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#239
On August 04 2010 19:43 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 19:41 ArvickHero wrote:
On August 04 2010 19:26 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC2 is not for sale in Korea yet (at least people aren't buying it while the free Beta is still there) what is all this commotion about?

That's not true, why else would they mention SC2 not having good SALES? Not only is it highly underperforming in sales, but it isn't being given much playtime either, given the information. I'm sure that playtime includes the "free beta".

You can play SC2 at your home for completely free. (Open Beta)
The PCBang next door charges you money for playing there.

Which one do you choose? Nobody but Blizzard has real information on how many are playing it from their homes. This figure is probably huge.

edit: Renamed the thread from sensationalist bullshit to what it actually is.

Actually they have this info up available in Korean websites, how else do you think they have the game popularity rankings? To quote from the Odds and Ends
At homes, according to gamenote.com, Starcraft 2 took a glorious 67th place,compared to the original taking 19th place that day.

I tried to access the website myself, but for some reason the damn page won't load. While this article focuses on the PC Bangs, I'm more than sure its not doing well at all at homes either. Why else do you think Blizzard refuses to show the information? Plus it's fuckin vacation time for Korean students everywhere, so there isn't much excuse for this pathetic showing.
Writerptrk
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
August 04 2010 11:12 GMT
#240
On August 04 2010 20:06 Puosu wrote:
People aren't playing it at PC Bangs because they can play it for free at their homes. PC Bang playtime goes down. StarCraft 2 is played more at home, too bad nobody but Blizzard has access to that data. We can't make any good guesses at how much play time is put in to it before Blizzard releases information.

The game is at open beta and is completely free, yet these "game industry experts" are wondering why people aren't buying it. That's retarded, why would anyone buy a game when they can try it out for free and paying gives them nothing extra?

The article is very misguiding, we have absolutely no information about how much of a success has SC2 been in Korea because we just don't have access to such information. Media being media, such a big fucking surprise.


In this case why Blizzard till now havent said anything about how many koreans are playing it on battle.net? If there was a massive ammount of koreans playing the free version, this will be the best advertisement for SC2.
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