EPTMLG SC2 Rules Discussion Thread - Page 14
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:16 s.a.y wrote: To me it sounds like you have to GG, then you have to wait for the referee to gg then you quit. maybe even for winner to gg then, to make up good sportsmanship. not really, the penalty for leaving a game without permission is losing you lose either way, it seems like a silly pointless rule that being said, i need to go buy a USB keyboard and then get used to it in the next 20 days >.< | ||
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MICHELLE
Korea (South)199 Posts
On August 05 2010 04:10 Backpack wrote: Why is everyone assuming its just a bunch of bads? What about Silver in the ESL? Nobody had ever heard of him. + Show Spoiler + He took out IdrA, QXC, HuK etc. etc. Unknown players do not = bad players You mean her? D: | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On August 05 2010 06:04 Takkara wrote: Partly because of first-come-first-serve and partly because of stuff like this: http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7349645&postcount=17 Hey you found my post on MLG. And yes our point is to show them how retarded their system is... should be amusing to say the least. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
All of their other games are open registration, and it works fine. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:26 Backpack wrote: So your friend will get knocked out early and the competition will continue as normal? All of their other games are open registration, and it works fine. So I might have stretched the truth a small bit on MLG. He's mid diamond but ofc not really playing to win it... bet he still gets top 8. That doesn't make my point any less true. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:32 KillerSOS wrote: That doesn't make my point any less true. Other than the fact that in 8 years of operation, issues of sponsorship being prohibitive would have come up in other games? | ||
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:32 KillerSOS wrote: So I might have stretched the truth a small bit on MLG. He's mid diamond but ofc not really playing to win it... bet he still gets top 8. That doesn't make my point any less true. if he 6 pools every game i doubt he gets top 8. total newbs arent spending 60 dollars to play at MLG | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:34 TheYango wrote: Other than the fact that in 8 years of operation, issues of sponsorship being prohibitive would have come up in other games? That's not what he's protesting, but the batshit insane "first come first serve" registration. No one wants to see 32 random jobbers play, we want to see high level games between proven A-class players. Do you think anyone would care one bit about the ongoing OSL if it didn't feature any of the top 20 KeSPA ranked players? In that case it would even be acceptable, due to the proper qualification process, but the end result would be the same... the audience would be empty. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:39 Mannerheim wrote: That's not what he's protesting, but the batshit insane "first come first serve" registration. No one wants to see 32 random jobbers play, we want to see high level games between proven A-class players. Someone who gets it. And we were already going to spectate MLG regardless so its an extra 25. Not really a big deal. And apparently you just don't pay attention to sponsorship issues that have arisen. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:39 Mannerheim wrote: That's not what he's protesting, but the batshit insane "first come first serve" registration. No one wants to see 32 random jobbers play, we want to see high level games between proven A-class players. Well MLG is open registration. There are plenty of other invitational tournaments that you can watch if you don't like this one. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Such as the Stork v. GGPlay game like 2 years ago that lasted like...90 minutes. At the end of the game, the entire map was mined out and nothing was being killed, but that idle time was actually extremely important for Stork. He was using that time to recharge all his shields and energy before making a final push to eliminate GGPlay. If rule 16 was in place, Stork would never have won that game. The game I'm referring to is this one: | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:42 KillerSOS wrote: Someone who gets it. And we were already going to spectate MLG regardless so its an extra 25. Not really a big deal. And apparently you just don't pay attention to sponsorship issues that have arisen. There haven't been any to my knowledge. The sponsorship issue is only if something is conflicting. Further, other organizations have done this in the past and if you don't like it, too bad. In order to run these tournaments they need sponsors, and if maybe 1 person can't go because of conflicting sponsorship things then so be it. But I guess people looking to complain will always find something to complain about. | ||
UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:50 Backpack wrote: Well MLG is open registration. There are plenty of other invitational tournaments that you can watch if you don't like this one. That's not really an argument in favor of open registration, it's an argument in favor of not watching it... lol. | ||
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grandmoose
United States160 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:32 KillerSOS wrote: So I might have stretched the truth a small bit on MLG. He's mid diamond but ofc not really playing to win it... bet he still gets top 8. That doesn't make my point any less true. MLG wants people who are mid diamond or any league to participate. They just needed to see that the starcraft community could fill 32 slots. If MLG increases the bracket to 64 or 100+ then everyone will be happy and we will still see the top players. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 05 2010 07:39 Mannerheim wrote: That's not what he's protesting, but the batshit insane "first come first serve" registration. No one wants to see 32 random jobbers play, we want to see high level games between proven A-class players. Do you think anyone would care one bit about the ongoing OSL if it didn't feature any of the top 20 KeSPA ranked players? In that case it would even be acceptable, due to the proper qualification process, but the end result would be the same... the audience would be empty. Did you read his post on MLG? Nice misquote... ofc I mean MLG SC will be a joke and its true. They blatantly disallow all sponsors thereby eliminating any international players from having an incentive to play. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 05 2010 08:05 UniversalSnip wrote: That's not really an argument in favor of open registration, it's an argument in favor of not watching it... lol. Exactly, if you don't like it don't watch it. They decided to do open registration so everyone needs to stop bitching about it. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 05 2010 08:23 Backpack wrote: Exactly, if you don't like it don't watch it. They decided to do open registration so everyone needs to stop bitching about it. You don't really get it, that argument could be applied to any bad decision. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On August 05 2010 08:24 UniversalSnip wrote: You don't really get it, that argument could be applied to any bad decision. I don't think it's a bad decision, and neither does MLG. That's what matters. | ||
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lightrise
United States1355 Posts
On August 05 2010 08:40 Backpack wrote: I don't think it's a bad decision, and neither does MLG. That's what matters. Your just some random that got a ticket and now doesnt want people to criticize their service and their tournament and doesn't want to play all the top players lol. Not all their events are open registration btw. Halo championship bracket is determined by points and WoW is invite only. So your wrong there. I'm just saying that it doesn't have to be open registration and an online qualifier would be awesome where the top 32 advance, or the top 16 and then have a second one for the other 16? Not totally sure but either way it would make the quality of play much better. And like you pointed out they are new to SC, which is why they came here for our input as a community and we are giving it to them: "32 passes is not enough :D" | ||
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But I guess it makes sense. I think I only read it as "Players can't quit the game without referees permission".
