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Scruff
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore509 Posts
July 23 2010 06:18 GMT
#121
Awesome news! Now I won't be separated from my dear TL peers! wooo!
I astonish myself everyday
Zyth
Profile Joined July 2010
Chile9 Posts
July 23 2010 06:24 GMT
#122
Assuming that lag issues is a valid blizz reason to do this with SEA copies, there will be still some other countries with the same problems( south african ppl, LA ppl)... Me as chilean, as already another mate pointed it, we will not play in LA servers cause of ppl playing in it, spanish versión, etc..
We also had bad lag sometimes with US servers but in SC2 wasnt so bad, actually I played in the EU beta and was fine..
I hope that blizz implement the cross server option in the future , but for the moment i'm prob getting the US version
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
July 23 2010 06:38 GMT
#123
I am exactly with Jinro

Yes, its good you guys got this. I am happy for all you Ausi NZ people. This is good. But there are just obvious continuity problems with allowing this. I mean if, IF, Blizzard wants to separate the servers for a more cohesive gaming experience in latency, forgetting whether its a good decision or not, its stupid, to go back on it. I mean its like I said with my first post, Draw a line, either make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience, or dont make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience.

Its hard for me to see this and not say bullshit. Because we all know not letting cross server play is stupid, we all know that and for them to go back on it, just for one section of people, forgetting whether they deserve it or not, to call that fair.

Its impossible to see where blizzard is coming from. They want everyone to have a good latency experience and they specifically, stop people from not getting that. And then they come out with this. I mean if they are willing to break for this, just break for it all. Blizzard knows EVERYONE wants xRegion. We know that EVERYONE wants xRegion. And I mean if your willing to give it to NZ and AU, for obvious reasons, give it to everyone.
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
July 23 2010 06:44 GMT
#124

I'd guess that the issue with cross-region play has more to do with ensuring there's enough support in each region for the expected load than anything else. If there were a tendency, for example, for American players to pile on the Asian server, or vice versa, I could see there potentially being difficulties with server capacity estimates.

This would explain, for example, why it'll be up to 60 days before they provide NA keys to SEA customers, so that they can plan for any likely impact.
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
July 23 2010 06:45 GMT
#125
They should just let everyone download every client if they buy the game. Its just that simple.
TheKing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia186 Posts
July 23 2010 06:54 GMT
#126
+REP to Blizzard. This is great news.
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
July 23 2010 07:47 GMT
#127
On July 23 2010 15:18 Ocedic wrote:
I am as critical of blizzard as anyone but when they do something right and people still complain... that's just beyond ridiculous. Self entitled people who will never be satisfied apparently.


I agree. This is doing something good for the AUS/NZ players, who always (among others also) get the bad end of the stick. Over the past few weeks ping tests have been done showing that the latency from AUS/NZ to SEA could be either good or horribly bad, depending on which ISP you were with. This is the type of shit that we always have to put up with, and we don't bitch and moan all day because we know our geography puts us in a sticky situation. This move by Blizzard is really a solution that helps us with that latency problem, since not everyone in SEA is in the same boat. It's quite straight forward if you look at it that way, and the decision hasn't got much to do with whether or not Blizzard wants SEA/Oceania to stay connected with other realms.

It's just outright selfish to assert that Blizzard has to either completely allow or completely disallow cross-realm play across the board --- especially from the people who always get it better than anyone else.

Of course, I would prefer complete cross-realm play for everyone, and I am all for the argument that it should exist. But if somebody else gets a bite of the pie, then good for them. I would express that others should also get a share of it, but I would not take an all or nothing approach by complaining that those fortunate somebodies don't deserve it. That would just be childish. And I've grown the f*** up.
tertle
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 07:51:13
July 23 2010 07:50 GMT
#128
On July 23 2010 15:38 RodrigoX wrote:I mean if, IF, Blizzard wants to separate the servers for a more cohesive gaming experience in latency, forgetting whether its a good decision or not, its stupid, to go back on it. I mean its like I said with my first post, Draw a line, either make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience, or dont make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience.


The difference is, a lot of Australians actually get lower latency to the US compared to SEA. In fact SEA is near unplayable for me (400+ ping). I need to be able to play on US servers to actually play the game online competitively.
WAAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
New Zealand291 Posts
July 23 2010 07:55 GMT
#129
My prediction: SEA ladder will be more dead than US west (wc3) within a year (sc2 dota/custom games will still be huge tho).

Haveing said that, very good news and I will be buying on release day now!
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 08:17:23
July 23 2010 08:08 GMT
#130
Don't let the jealous types ruin this news. Good for you guys. Congrats!
There's no S in KT. :P
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 23 2010 08:08 GMT
#131
The best part about this is being able to have two accounts. It means i can ladder as terran AND random without tanking my rating. Or i can just smurf
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Lejving
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden82 Posts
July 23 2010 08:15 GMT
#132
On July 23 2010 13:14 Imagist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly


We'd all like to see cross-region play, but it isn't a kick in the balls regardless of the "honestly" you cavalierly added there. Nothing has gotten worse for you at all.


I should start with 12 workers. You start with 6, nothing has gotten worse for you at all. See my point? EU should have access to US and SEA. "Nothing has gotten worse for you at all".

Either allow everyone to play everywhere or nobody to play anywhere except for their local area. Everything else, is bullshit.

Why is SEA-US friends more valued the my EU-US friends? Or EU-SEA friends? Come on.

This solution is specifically targeted to address gamers in Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand who have social relationships with North American players from previous Blizzard Entertainment titles.

Yeah, I forgot, EU players didn't play previous Blizzard games?

All and all I agree this is a step in right direction. A little "we will continue adding cross realm play as soon as possible for everyone" and we all would have been happy. This is just not the case right now.

I am from EU so ofc I'm biased. Still doesn't make it better.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 08:24:46
July 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#133
It does feel like they (blizzard) are literally baiting us with this, though I can't really say that.
But I can say that there are people in europe who have ties with americans and australians, by language and culture. If someone from one region wants to play a laggier version of the same game on another region- Just let them do that.

But of course this same thing has been said a million times over on this forum, pretty lame post by me I must say...
spheresword
Profile Joined May 2010
14 Posts
July 23 2010 08:31 GMT
#134
Wow, I was expecting them to offer cross-realm support for like $5 a server or something. Micro-transactions has been every corporation's wet dream for gaming.
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
July 23 2010 08:33 GMT
#135
More importantly, those of us exiled in Europe can play with BOTH our Antipodean colleagues AND the Americans AND Europeans with only two copies
Rhodan
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia232 Posts
July 23 2010 08:42 GMT
#136
On July 23 2010 15:38 RodrigoX wrote:
Its impossible to see where blizzard is coming from. They want everyone to have a good latency experience and they specifically, stop people from not getting that. And then they come out with this. I mean if they are willing to break for this, just break for it all. Blizzard knows EVERYONE wants xRegion. We know that EVERYONE wants xRegion. And I mean if your willing to give it to NZ and AU, for obvious reasons, give it to everyone.



While I am ecstatic that we (Im Australian) get cross realm play, it shows just how easy it would be for them to implement it on any server and its absolute crap that they're choosing to not implement it for everyone.

That being said, their argument about latency is still valid. Many Australian internet connections connect to the US much faster than they do to Singapore (where the SEA server is located), so the argument about latency is event.

Still, that shouldnt be enough reason on its own to limit people's ability to play the game with friends =/
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok." - Liquid`Tyler
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 23 2010 08:44 GMT
#137
On July 23 2010 17:15 Lejving wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 13:14 Imagist wrote:
On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly


We'd all like to see cross-region play, but it isn't a kick in the balls regardless of the "honestly" you cavalierly added there. Nothing has gotten worse for you at all.


I should start with 12 workers. You start with 6, nothing has gotten worse for you at all. See my point? EU should have access to US and SEA. "Nothing has gotten worse for you at all".

Either allow everyone to play everywhere or nobody to play anywhere except for their local area. Everything else, is bullshit.

Why is SEA-US friends more valued the my EU-US friends? Or EU-SEA friends? Come on.

Man, you talk as though having SEA server access is a gift for us. No, this just moves us from SEA to the US servers, perhaps dropping in to SEA to host local tourneys with lower ping on occasion which you guys already have the luxury of on your own native servers.

Think of it less as we're getting 12 workers, so much as we did only have 4 workers and now we have 6.
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 23 2010 08:46 GMT
#138
just let people play customs only in other regions.

ladder only in your region.

if they care about lag ruining other people's games so much.
sjh130
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia24 Posts
July 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#139
OH MY GOD.
Thank you SOOO much Blizzard, I LOVE YOU ;D

Hahahaha wow honestly, I did not see this coming.

I was going to buy the electronic copy of the SC2 NA version at 00:00 27th July O_O.
eelix
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia36 Posts
July 23 2010 09:06 GMT
#140
As it has been said many times the real reason for this move is due to network issues within Australia and New Zealand which do not exist anywhere else. If a quarter of the customers find it nearly impossible to play on the SEA servers (400+ping, ie me) yet they have paid $100 for a game which is largely sold on its Multiplayer capabilities then clearly something must be done. The problem with latency does not exist in either the US or Europe so every person who is complaining about crossrealm play from either of these countries does not have a leg to stand on. I appreciate that LA are in a similar predicament however I have not seen hard evidence of this as I have the Oceania SAE situation (the thread seems to have gone missing from the b.net forum).
Yes crossrealm play across the board would be fantastic however the Australia and New Zealand situation could not stand.

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