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Based on Starcraft-SEA's facebook page at Starcraft-SEA
Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand StarCraft® II to Include North American Battle.net® Access
We’re pleased to announce that all players who purchase the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ will also have the option of playing on North American servers following the launch. While we still encourage gamers to play on the local servers, which will offer lower latency and more action during peak hours, we recognize that many players have longstanding friendships and rivalries with North American players, and would like to continue playing with them. Because of this, we're giving Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand gamers access to both regions' servers, so they can choose where they'd prefer to play.
This additional access will go into effect as soon as possible. Our intention is to make it available within 60 days of launch -- at that time, players with a copy of the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will automatically gain the option to download the North American version of the game client through Battle.net®. You can check out the FAQ for more information, and we’ll have additional details to share about acquiring the North American client in the near future on our Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand community site.
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North American Server Access for Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ Players FAQ
Q: Who is eligible to play on the North American servers?
A: All players, including those in the regions of Hong Kong and Macau, who purchase the English Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand Standard or Collector’s Edition of StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ will have the option of playing on the North American Battle.net® servers in addition to the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand servers if they prefer.
Q: How much will this cost?
A: The option of playing on North American Battle.net servers will come at no additional cost to all players who have purchased the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II.
Q: How will access to the North American servers be granted?
A: Our intention is to ensure that within 60 days after the launch of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, all players with a copy of the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version will automatically gain the ability to also access the North American servers -- this will be handled through Battle.net account management.
Q: How will I know when I can access the North American servers?
A: We will have additional information on how and when to access the North American servers on our StarCraft II community site.
Q: What will happen with my Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand Battle.net account?
A: Once you get access to the North American Battle.net servers, you will have access to both regions for online play. You can choose which one to play on at any given time, and can switch back and forth at will.
Q: How will my friends list and rankings be handled?
A: All account-specific data, including friends lists, rankings, achievements, statistics, titles, and unlockable rewards, will be tracked separately for each region's Battle.net servers, and will not carry over between them.
Q: If I have already purchased the North American version, can I also play on the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand servers?
A: No. To have the option to play on both servers, you must purchase the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty. This solution is specifically targeted to address gamers in Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand who have social relationships with North American players from previous Blizzard Entertainment titles.
Q: Will I be able to play on any of the other StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty regional servers?
A: No. Players who purchase the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II will have access to the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand and the North American Battle.net servers. No other multi-region play will be available at this time.
This means we dont have to buy the NA version anymore, if we want to play there. (duh) Very great news!
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nice... that means for SEA tournaments I don't have to worry about using a SEA cd key, b/c they can easily come onto NA :D
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But notice, it is restricted to the English version only.
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AWESONE! ...didn't see this coming. Thank you so much for this news 
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United States17042 Posts
Awesome. That means that I'm def buying the SEA version of the game ^^
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DOUBLE RAINBOW
DOUBLE SERVERS OH MY GODDDD
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T_T well... I wish they would do this to other servers.. europe - america and korea - america..
*English only*
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So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version?
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So why can't EVERY VERSION allow you to select any region?
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On July 23 2010 12:28 29 fps wrote:
So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version?
Because the SEA version costs significantly more than the NA one (3500 pesos locally ~ $80USD).
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So it is better for US./SEA players to buy the SEA version so they can switch server playing in the SEA/US whenever they want?
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On July 23 2010 12:28 29 fps wrote:
So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version?
prolly because we actually deserve it for having to play on 400ms latency for the past 10 years.
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A good first step i think. It seems like they want to make the US server the mainstay, obviously because that is the one they can control the most and have the World championships on. I hope it goes well. Some people might complain that they want to play on the Asia server from US, but i'm thankfully declining that possibility. I'd probably drop down to gold or silver in Asia(from diamond us), although i would get good practice in for US play.
Hopefully world cross servers is in the works down the line, but a good first step.
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Q: How will my friends list and rankings be handled?
A: All account-specific data, including friends lists, rankings, achievements, statistics, titles, and unlockable rewards, will be tracked separately for each region's Battle.net servers, and will not carry over between them.
Fantastic, that means I can play my main race on SEA and offrace on US and be in different divisions using just one account <3
Auto-smurf!
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MWAHAHHHAHAHHHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAHA
,WMWWAWHWAHWAHWAHWAHWHAAHWAHWAHWAHAHA
there goes my $$ next tuesday
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Awesome!!!
To be fair, the gaming scene in Aus / NZ isn't the most impressive.
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What about the digital download? is that US/SEA/EU version we are getting?
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On July 23 2010 12:29 davsp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:28 29 fps wrote:
So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version? Because the SEA version costs significantly more than the NA one (3500 pesos locally ~ $80USD).
wow thats so expensive! but yay another step to playing in any server anywhere
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Oh hai, cause theres no competative SC2 players in europe right?
Seriosly.. world-wide servers please.. so stupid.
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i haven't heard any good reasons from blizzard as to why players cannot switch servers as they please. other than more money, they have no good reason...
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Wow. Now I'm going to have to use my NA collectors and save my SEA collectors to sell later.
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Just remember that theres going to be a delay for when this happens.
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On July 23 2010 12:50 YooNiEBaLooNie wrote:
i haven't heard any good reasons from blizzard as to why players cannot switch servers as they please. other than more money, they have no good reason...
The only reason they ever gave was latency. And it is a perfectly valid reason.
It just so happens that the latency to NA and to SEA are almost equal (proven by trace route) for most AU customers (optus isp being an exception).
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What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit.
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Awesome, this is great news. Thank you blizzard!
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On July 23 2010 12:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
So why can't EVERY VERSION allow you to select any region?
This was my first thought when reading this also. Clearly it can be done..
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This is probably the first step towards building seamless cross-server play, they'll eventually patch it in in HotS or LotV.
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Holy fuck, that is good news!!
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On July 23 2010 12:54 RodrigoX wrote:
What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit.
It's not rigged. Their decision is perfectly valid.
EU players on US realm with have higher latency than if they play in EU. Same goes for all other regions except SEA->US.
SEA->US is the only region gap which does not increase latency.
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Australia7069 Posts
finally australia gets something good! so glad i didn't go and pre-order an american copy
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Can't wait to play with my Filipino brothers overseas!
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really nice to see this kind of news coming from blizzard, looks like they're really working on getting the overseas servers access
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THIS IS SO SICK!
You just made my day!
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What about NA players having friends/rivalries/whatever over in Europe?
Meh... just give people xrealm already.
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Kind of wierd to do that but restrict it to english copies only.
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Wait what? Cross-region play is EASILY doable but they won't allow it for everyone?
I really don't see the logic here. Latency isn't an excuse imo.
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universal servers soon?
step in the right direction though
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On July 23 2010 13:03 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Kind of wierd to do that but restrict it to english copies only.
Kind of caters to SG/MY/HK/PH IMO.
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Love it! Meaning I can sign up to TL tourneys baby! ^_^ <3 Davsp thanks for the quick info ma men!
I think one reason why they might have done this is because of poor sales in SEA region  (meaning fewer players) or the other reason is that some of us guys have to connect to NA first before connecting to our beloved SEA server thus latency :/
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This is great news.. Great job by blizzard.
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I was hoping that Sea is picking up SC2. I bet he can't wait for the single player after that trailer!
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On July 23 2010 12:54 RodrigoX wrote:
What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit.
+1
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Uh.....so as an american, shouldn't I just make an account saying I live in Australia?
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I understand Blizz's reasons for Only having SEA -> US but honestly, there's no reason (other than greed or laziness) not to allow people to play on whatever server they want. Just make it enough of a hassle (like downloading a complete separate client as they're doing) with a big old warning about lag stuck onto it so people won't arbitrarily switch over.
I like the idea of having international tournaments, I like the idea of being able to play with friends no matter where they are in the world, and I like the idea of Starcraft 2 being (to some extent) one big interconnected community instead of half a dozen fractured ones.
Of course, I also like the idea of being able to lan with my friends and not having to go online to play singleplayer. Neither of those will happen, frankly I'm very surprised that they're even allowing SEA players to also play on US when there's the very good reason of equal latency.
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I have lots of friends in usa/canada too
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FUCK YES BLIZZARD DOING SOMETHING RIGHT FOR A CHANGE!
My god, after 3 months of shitty blizzard announcements about every bnet2 feature, this is a welcome change for sure.
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It makes no sense that they can do this for SEA -> US, but no other regions. Only time will tell what blizzard does i guess.
As for having to download the whole US Client, which contains 99%+ of the same data. Incredibily poor design. Internalization would be fairly easy to implement into a single client catering for all locality's. I guess I, or someone else will write a launcher to choose regions without having to waste 6-7gb of our data cap on downloading the client again.
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This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly
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excellent news :D pretty happy about this!
can only assume (hope?) its a step towards linking all regions.
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living in the US
would there be any reason not to purchase SEA (even if i werent to play on their servers, but just for the additional option)
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Look on the bright side guys. Baby steps. At least with this Blizzard has shown the will (in some cases) and capability for cross-region play.
Just hope in the future Blizzard will implement full cross region play for everyone.
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Q: If I have already purchased the North American version, can I also play on the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand servers?
A: No. To have the option to play on both servers, you must purchase the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty. This solution is specifically targeted to address gamers in Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand who have social relationships with North American players from previous Blizzard Entertainment titles.
This is a cop-out for the poor dudes who only bought the NA version, they should have the privilege in having access to our SEA servers. Why is it only a one-way deal?
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This is really great news for SEA players! I hope it works out well and they decide to do this for all servers in the future . . .
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On July 23 2010 13:11 billyX333 wrote:
living in the US
would there be any reason not to purchase SEA (even if i werent to play on their servers, but just for the additional option)
The time frame for this to be implemented is 60 days after launch. If you can stand being isolated and having a higher ping for the duration, then i see no reason not to purchase SEA (Be aware that it costs $25~ more then the US version)
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On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly
We'd all like to see cross-region play, but it isn't a kick in the balls regardless of the "honestly" you cavalierly added there. Nothing has gotten worse for you at all.
Oceania in particular needed this to be able to play with an English-speaking community, with lower than 450 ms latency for one of its major regional ISPs.
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this is awesome but also the worst thing ever
they've shown they can have cross region play with their current bnet setup, but they're only letting one region access another server? why?
only people from SEA have longstanding friendships and rivalries?
this is ridiculous
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On July 23 2010 13:15 Tropics wrote:
only people from SEA have longstanding friendships and rivalries?
It Is different in the sense that in the past we've always been on the US server, and now we are being forced to move to a different community.
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Even with access to the NA servers, I really feel that $80 is a huge ripoff. Sure SC2 will be a great game and all.. but publishers like EA can sell their games at $30 over here.. so why can't a equally huge company like Blizz do the same? Oh well, just cashing in I suppose.
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On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly
no it isn't bullshit. You wouldn't understand because you've been blessed with green bar latency for the last ten years probably.
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Does the installer dictate which server you'll be playing or is it the location of the Battle.net account that matters? I mean, I pre-ordered SC2 here in the Philippines which makes it a SEA version. I also have a US Battle.Net account which has a US WoW game on it and I'm not sure if I need to create a new SEA Battle.net account or if I can still use my existing US Battle.net account to add my SEA version SC2.
I'm sorry if my the answer is too obvious but I really need to ensure that I'm doing the right thing since Php ,500 / $80 is no joke here in the Philippines and I would like to make sure that I play in the SEA server due to latency issues.
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How do you buy a SEA copy in NA? Anyone know?
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On July 23 2010 13:19 yellising wrote:
Does the installer dictate which server you'll be playing or is it the location of the Battle.net account that matters? I mean, I pre-ordered SC2 here in the Philippines which makes it a SEA version. I also have a US Battle.Net account which has a US WoW game on it and I'm not sure if I need to create a new SEA Battle.net account or if I can still use my existing US Battle.net account to add my SEA version SC2.
It's which version of the game you purchased (cd-key).
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I'm not suggesting it isn't necessary for Australia/NZ, but Blizzard knows everyone wants it and only gives it a certain group when they very easily could give it to everyone else at the same time. That is bullshit. I don't think you should be forced into the asia server at all. That doesn't change the fact that hearing that they are restricting cross server play to your region feels like salt in the wound for the rest of the world who has been asking for that functionality.
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On July 23 2010 12:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
So why can't EVERY VERSION allow you to select any region?
There are tons of custom maps with like 8 players. If a lot of people have high lag, it could become unbearable to play those. They simply don't want people to be lagging the games.
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you dont understand do you? We are being forced onto a new server with non english speaking people so this cross realm play is a must for us. While most people from USA or Europe have always been playing within their regions and are not forced into a new server. So its only fair to us that we can play on both. I dont get it. Why would you guys want to play on SEA? when the Majority of us would move to the NA servers anyway?
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On July 23 2010 13:25 Lane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
So why can't EVERY VERSION allow you to select any region? There are tons of custom maps with like 8 players. If a lot of people have high lag, it could become unbearable to play those. They simply don't want people to be lagging the games.
Australians dont lag to US servers?
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Thanks skyR! I've sent an e-mail to Blizzard support about this but release will probably happen before they reply
Anyway, good to know that after 60 days I will be able to play with my NA friends for kicks! I'm loving this cross server feature, I just hope everyone will get it.
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On July 23 2010 12:29 davsp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:28 29 fps wrote:
So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version? Because the SEA version costs significantly more than the NA one (3500 pesos locally ~ $80USD).
Ok, then give me access to the NA server as well - EU and NA cost the same I think 
This is good, now get this shit sorted for the other servers.
On July 23 2010 13:11 billyX333 wrote:
living in the US
would there be any reason not to purchase SEA (even if i werent to play on their servers, but just for the additional option)
Can't qualify for the end-of-season ladder tournaments etc.
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I'm SO stoked. I will 100% purchase this game on release now.
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On July 23 2010 13:26 Nuri wrote:
you dont understand do you? We are being forced onto a new server with non english speaking people so this cross realm play is a must for us. While most people from USA or Europe have always been playing within their regions and are not forced into a new server. So its only fair to us that we can play on both. I dont get it. Why would you guys want to play on SEA? when the Majority of us would move to the NA servers anyway?
How do you propose the community runs international tournaments without the ability to change servers?
I think it's you who doesn't understand. No one wants to take your shiney toy away from you, there is legitimate reasons for everyone to be given the ability to change servers. This ability is not a finite resource that can only be bestowed on one group of player.
Are you arguing that the rest of the world shouldn't have it? Because no one is arguing you shouldn't
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On July 23 2010 13:29 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:26 Nuri wrote:
you dont understand do you? We are being forced onto a new server with non english speaking people so this cross realm play is a must for us. While most people from USA or Europe have always been playing within their regions and are not forced into a new server. So its only fair to us that we can play on both. I dont get it. Why would you guys want to play on SEA? when the Majority of us would move to the NA servers anyway? How do you propose the community runs international tournaments without the ability to change servers? I think it's you who doesn't understand. No one wants to take your shiney toy away from you, there is legitimate reasons for everyone to be given the ability to change servers. This ability is not a finite resource that can only be bestowed on one group of player. Are you arguing that the rest of the world shouldn't have it? Because no one is arguing you shouldn't
im not arguing u shouldnt have it. but the way u guys are bitching and whining about it might make blizzard change their mind and not give it to us after all
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Best news I've heard from blizz in a long time. Very happy with this decision ^^. It does beg the question why not allow everyone access to everywhere tho :p.
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Lol, so basically another region can come lag us up in NA, but we can't go play where we wish?
How about Blizzard just does this shit right -for once with Bnet 2.0- and let people play wherever the hell they want to? Maybe disable ladder searches if you try to play outside of your region and your lag seems too high, seems like a reasonable solution.
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On July 23 2010 12:29 davsp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:28 29 fps wrote:
So the NA version of the game can only play in NA, while the SEA version can play in NA and SEA?
then why not get the SEA version? Because the SEA version costs significantly more than the NA one (3500 pesos locally ~ $80USD).
hmm.... pay 80 dollars for 2 server access, or pay 60 dollars for one server access and then another 60 for a second server access....
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So I guess this means I'll be getting pwned by asians once again
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WAHOO!!!
Awesome - I've been stressing the last few weeks about which one to get! Just awesome
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YES
Citizens of NA !!! Prepare yourselves with massive lub because SC2 anal rape tornado is on its way from the East!
+ Show Spoiler +
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On July 23 2010 12:54 RodrigoX wrote:
What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit.
Dude we've had to put up with Blizzard's BS (and other games) for ages, and finally our much higher cost of the game is justified you can't take that away from us. Blizzard not neglecting us for once is the Emancipation Proclamation for Australasian residents.
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On July 23 2010 13:26 Nuri wrote:
you dont understand do you? We are being forced onto a new server with non english speaking people so this cross realm play is a must for us. While most people from USA or Europe have always been playing within their regions and are not forced into a new server. So its only fair to us that we can play on both. I dont get it. Why would you guys want to play on SEA? when the Majority of us would move to the NA servers anyway?
Its not that bad really, if you have actually been on any SEA server regardless of game you'll realize the majority of people will be speaking english. Most people can understand/talk a few english words to make your experience less miserable. If all else fails, just play with your fellow Aussies/NZ or go lag the NA servers.
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Everyone should have access to NA. As a Chilean, there's no way I'm buying the Latin American localized version.
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On July 23 2010 13:06 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Uh.....so as an american, shouldn't I just make an account saying I live in Australia?
The American Dream.
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wow. i should have gotten the SEA version......i live in hong kong but go to school in the US...
maybe i should leave my NA Collector's Edition unopened and buy the digital SEA?
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Oh sweet. I bought the most valuable SC2 copy region-wise.
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Pretty sure this is their "test" before they enable all versions to play on different regions. Also pretty sure 60 days in Blizzard's time is probably like 6 months our time.
Edit: Also getting hugely annoyed with the "SEA region doesn't speak english" arguement. Most gamers in the region DO speak english and besides, most ladder games don't go beyond "GL HF GG FUCK YOU" anyway. Chat channels will obviously separate cultures of different languages.
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YEAHHH!!!
good bye SEA server
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On July 23 2010 13:38 Goobus wrote:
wow. i should have gotten the SEA version......i live in hong kong but go to school in the US...
maybe i should leave my NA Collector's Edition unopened and buy the digital SEA?
I wonder if this applies to the digital version as well, the FAQ just states that it applies to the Standard and Collector's Editions, and doesn't directly mention the Digital Download version (if they treat that separately).
They probably want to restrict this only to people who live in the SEA region and making it only work on boxed copies is one way to do that.
Might be worth asking them tho, I'm not sure.
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On July 23 2010 13:33 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:54 RodrigoX wrote:
What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit. Dude we've had to put up with Blizzard's BS (and other games) for ages, and finally our much higher cost of the game is justified you can't take that away from us. Blizzard not neglecting us for once is the Emancipation Proclamation for Australasian residents.
Since when is this about who deserves shit more and who is the ignored accident baby Blizzard had with some cheap slut? Take what away from you? You deserve multiple server access all of a sudden?
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This is fantastic news - both for players individually, and also for the Aus/NZ community in general - whilst I certainly admire the skill of the Asian community - being in chat rooms with them not speaking - OH WAIT NO CHAT ROOMS LOL.
But seriously - that grows the 'player pool' for the SEA clients which is great to see. Kudos to Blizzard.
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Haven't said this in a while, but thank you blizzard for actually listening and providing a reasonable response.
Guess I'll have to put up with 2months of 400ping but this is a good solution.
(Shame I already wasted 7GB downloaded US client but whatever!)
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This is a precursor to a likely future of cross-realm play for all IMO.
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The reactions to this have been strange. Sure, its annoying if you don't live in SEA. But at least it's a step in the right direction.
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Actually, I suspect this was done because the SEA server is new.
(Whether because they expect some technical difficulties, a new gaming community with little to base on, etc.)
Also some of our connections here in SEA is actually faster when connecting to the US.
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Lol. All this does is show that they could easily allow cross-realm play if they wanted to.
They're CHOOSING not to.
Bleh Blizzard.
I'm so sick of all the arguments about latency. Let the players choose? We don't need you to babysit us blizz, thanks.
You could just have a warning when connecting to a diff server: "Warning, playing on this server will result in higher latency, we recommend you play on __________. Would you like to proceed?"
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b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns.
Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues.
They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency...
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This is awesome, l rank up on SEA ladder as Zerg, US as Terran!
Good ol' Blizz =D
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On July 23 2010 14:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns. Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues. They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency...
A big fat +1 to this.
I also played on all the servers during beta, and they were really fine. I play on Europe from Korea, and its fine.
The latency argument is BS.
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This is one step closer to cross region play everyone has been asking for! Blizz you do listen <3
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Btw just how many servers does Blizzard have for SC2? And how does that compare to WoW, WC3, and SC1?
NA, Euro, SEA, and Asia?
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WC3 and SC had 4... US West, US East, EU, Asia
WoW has US, EU, Korea, China, Taiwan
SC2 has US, EU, Latin America, Asia, SEA, Russia, Korea(not sure if they have their own server?)
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I am fairly sure the reason they don't let people choose server is because of how WoW and Bnet2.0 are so closely related. They probably can't figure out how to let people choose their own SC2 server without letting people choose their own WoW servers.
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YES! FUCKING YES!!! MY TEAM IS SAVED :D
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On July 23 2010 13:33 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 12:54 RodrigoX wrote:
What I dont fucking get is that if they are giving NZ and AU a server choice why the hell doesnt everyone else get it?
Rigged shit is Rigged. Draw a fucking Line Blizzard. Either give everyone cross region or give no one.
I mean sure they cant change it after they pick, but if they are allowing this, why the hell wont they allow a 100 percent cross region. This is all such bullshit. Dude we've had to put up with Blizzard's BS (and other games) for ages, and finally our much higher cost of the game is justified you can't take that away from us. Blizzard not neglecting us for once is the Emancipation Proclamation for Australasian residents.
QFT -
Since the very early days we have always had to put up with +200 ping to NA servers (regardless of coast). Whilst our country's internet is certainly not the best - it is not just that issue.
And I will admit - over time you get used to it, but seriously, there are things we cannot do with 200+ ping that NA players can do against us that seriously piss me off. Maruader kiting, hellion kiting - pretty much all version of kiting - are incredibly hard for SEA players to pull off on NA servers.
Now whilst this isn't the key issue here - it is a big factor of how we partake in the community, and a factor we have to deal with. When you take into account the issue of the SEA server (Many non-english speakers, latency is actually worse than NA for some people) it really isn't fair to get all teary about us and us alone having the option to say hi to NA folks.
Edit: Also lol @ proxiswami
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On July 23 2010 14:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns. Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues. They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency...
Yeah Jinro is right I mean Australians have been playing on the NA server right throughout the BETA with no problems at all so it only makes sense that Blizzard made this decision :D
Soon enough they will allow multi-region for everyone hopefully!
edit: what? @duckvillelol
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last time i checked mexico was still in NA, not sure why it can't be in LA and NA regions.
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In Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne, Blizzard focused on getting rid of smurf accounts and that is most likely the reason for the one account pr. person policy.
In conjunction with latency, bnet 2.0 and interoperability with WoW, smurfing might be one of the main reasons for not allowing play on more than one server.
If you have an account on more than one server you will still be able to use one of them as a lossbot-smurf account where you leave games just to get easier opponents and win almost all of the games you actually play.The other account would obviously be used more seriously.
It is still possible to abuse the laddersystem with one account, but it would not be possible to gauge the real skilllevel of the abuser, which is a sufficient to keep the abuse at a lower level.
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On July 23 2010 14:39 skyR wrote:
WC3 and SC had 4... US West, US East, EU, Asia
WoW has US, EU, Korea, China, Taiwan
SC2 has US, EU, Latin America, Asia, SEA, Russia, Korea(not sure if they have their own server?)
wtf why does sc2 have this many servers 0_o
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Grrrr great for them but what about the rest of us who want to be able to switch!?!??
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On July 23 2010 14:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns. Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues. They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency...
Yet in both professional and amateur matches across all video games, INCLUDING StarCraft 2, region to region latency is a big issue. Weren't people just talking about White Ra lagging in his show matches against TLO just a few days ago? I have played both Dota and Counterstrike competitively from the US, and when I play with friends in Europe there is a huge difference.
Now the fact that you used to be able to choose realms and can't now doesn't make sense, but to flat out lie and say cross region play doesn't lag is just ridiculous.
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Please Blizzard, give every copy the same access. I'll play $100, if money is so important to you. I'd rather be connected with the entire world. They'll probably offer a paid patch or something, but just implement from the get go instead of going through all the hassle. If you'd just implement it so we can change regions in the first place, there would be no latency issues. You just choose the one that doesn't lag, or you suck it up and play in a laggier server.
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It is said Collecters edition as well, Wonder if that works worldwide or was it specific Collecters edition, south asia?
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On July 23 2010 15:10 vica wrote:
Please Blizzard, give every copy the same access. I'll play $100, if money is so important to you. I'd rather be connected with the entire world. They'll probably offer a paid patch or something, but just implement from the get go instead of going through all the hassle. If you'd just implement it so we can change regions in the first place, there would be no latency issues. You just choose the one that doesn't lag, or you suck it up and play in a laggier server.
What is wrong with you? The original post said SEA-> NA play did NOT cost money, so from that you gather money is their main motivation? Also, if you really are willing to spend any amount of money to play on other regions, you know you could just buy another copy from another region to do so?
I am as critical of blizzard as anyone but when they do something right and people still complain... that's just beyond ridiculous. Self entitled people who will never be satisfied apparently.
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Awesome news! Now I won't be separated from my dear TL peers! wooo!
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Assuming that lag issues is a valid blizz reason to do this with SEA copies, there will be still some other countries with the same problems( south african ppl, LA ppl)... Me as chilean, as already another mate pointed it, we will not play in LA servers cause of ppl playing in it, spanish versión, etc..
We also had bad lag sometimes with US servers but in SC2 wasnt so bad, actually I played in the EU beta and was fine..
I hope that blizz implement the cross server option in the future , but for the moment i'm prob getting the US version
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I am exactly with Jinro
Yes, its good you guys got this. I am happy for all you Ausi NZ people. This is good. But there are just obvious continuity problems with allowing this. I mean if, IF, Blizzard wants to separate the servers for a more cohesive gaming experience in latency, forgetting whether its a good decision or not, its stupid, to go back on it. I mean its like I said with my first post, Draw a line, either make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience, or dont make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience.
Its hard for me to see this and not say bullshit. Because we all know not letting cross server play is stupid, we all know that and for them to go back on it, just for one section of people, forgetting whether they deserve it or not, to call that fair.
Its impossible to see where blizzard is coming from. They want everyone to have a good latency experience and they specifically, stop people from not getting that. And then they come out with this. I mean if they are willing to break for this, just break for it all. Blizzard knows EVERYONE wants xRegion. We know that EVERYONE wants xRegion. And I mean if your willing to give it to NZ and AU, for obvious reasons, give it to everyone.
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I'd guess that the issue with cross-region play has more to do with ensuring there's enough support in each region for the expected load than anything else. If there were a tendency, for example, for American players to pile on the Asian server, or vice versa, I could see there potentially being difficulties with server capacity estimates.
This would explain, for example, why it'll be up to 60 days before they provide NA keys to SEA customers, so that they can plan for any likely impact.
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They should just let everyone download every client if they buy the game. Its just that simple.
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+REP to Blizzard. This is great news.
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On July 23 2010 15:18 Ocedic wrote:
I am as critical of blizzard as anyone but when they do something right and people still complain... that's just beyond ridiculous. Self entitled people who will never be satisfied apparently.
I agree. This is doing something good for the AUS/NZ players, who always (among others also) get the bad end of the stick. Over the past few weeks ping tests have been done showing that the latency from AUS/NZ to SEA could be either good or horribly bad, depending on which ISP you were with. This is the type of shit that we always have to put up with, and we don't bitch and moan all day because we know our geography puts us in a sticky situation. This move by Blizzard is really a solution that helps us with that latency problem, since not everyone in SEA is in the same boat. It's quite straight forward if you look at it that way, and the decision hasn't got much to do with whether or not Blizzard wants SEA/Oceania to stay connected with other realms.
It's just outright selfish to assert that Blizzard has to either completely allow or completely disallow cross-realm play across the board --- especially from the people who always get it better than anyone else.
Of course, I would prefer complete cross-realm play for everyone, and I am all for the argument that it should exist. But if somebody else gets a bite of the pie, then good for them. I would express that others should also get a share of it, but I would not take an all or nothing approach by complaining that those fortunate somebodies don't deserve it. That would just be childish. And I've grown the f*** up.
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On July 23 2010 15:38 RodrigoX wrote:I mean if, IF, Blizzard wants to separate the servers for a more cohesive gaming experience in latency, forgetting whether its a good decision or not, its stupid, to go back on it. I mean its like I said with my first post, Draw a line, either make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience, or dont make EVERYONE have a cohesive experience.
The difference is, a lot of Australians actually get lower latency to the US compared to SEA. In fact SEA is near unplayable for me (400+ ping). I need to be able to play on US servers to actually play the game online competitively.
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My prediction: SEA ladder will be more dead than US west (wc3) within a year (sc2 dota/custom games will still be huge tho).
Haveing said that, very good news and I will be buying on release day now!
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Don't let the jealous types ruin this news. Good for you guys. Congrats!
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The best part about this is being able to have two accounts. It means i can ladder as terran AND random without tanking my rating. Or i can just smurf
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On July 23 2010 13:14 Imagist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly We'd all like to see cross-region play, but it isn't a kick in the balls regardless of the "honestly" you cavalierly added there. Nothing has gotten worse for you at all.
I should start with 12 workers. You start with 6, nothing has gotten worse for you at all. See my point? EU should have access to US and SEA. "Nothing has gotten worse for you at all".
Either allow everyone to play everywhere or nobody to play anywhere except for their local area. Everything else, is bullshit.
Why is SEA-US friends more valued the my EU-US friends? Or EU-SEA friends? Come on.
This solution is specifically targeted to address gamers in Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand who have social relationships with North American players from previous Blizzard Entertainment titles.
Yeah, I forgot, EU players didn't play previous Blizzard games?
All and all I agree this is a step in right direction. A little "we will continue adding cross realm play as soon as possible for everyone" and we all would have been happy. This is just not the case right now.
I am from EU so ofc I'm biased. Still doesn't make it better.
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It does feel like they (blizzard) are literally baiting us with this, though I can't really say that.
But I can say that there are people in europe who have ties with americans and australians, by language and culture. If someone from one region wants to play a laggier version of the same game on another region- Just let them do that.
But of course this same thing has been said a million times over on this forum, pretty lame post by me I must say...
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Wow, I was expecting them to offer cross-realm support for like $5 a server or something. Micro-transactions has been every corporation's wet dream for gaming.
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More importantly, those of us exiled in Europe can play with BOTH our Antipodean colleagues AND the Americans AND Europeans with only two copies
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On July 23 2010 15:38 RodrigoX wrote:
Its impossible to see where blizzard is coming from. They want everyone to have a good latency experience and they specifically, stop people from not getting that. And then they come out with this. I mean if they are willing to break for this, just break for it all. Blizzard knows EVERYONE wants xRegion. We know that EVERYONE wants xRegion. And I mean if your willing to give it to NZ and AU, for obvious reasons, give it to everyone.
While I am ecstatic that we (Im Australian) get cross realm play, it shows just how easy it would be for them to implement it on any server and its absolute crap that they're choosing to not implement it for everyone.
That being said, their argument about latency is still valid. Many Australian internet connections connect to the US much faster than they do to Singapore (where the SEA server is located), so the argument about latency is event.
Still, that shouldnt be enough reason on its own to limit people's ability to play the game with friends =/
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On July 23 2010 17:15 Lejving wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 13:14 Imagist wrote:On July 23 2010 13:09 floor exercise wrote:
This is bullshit because they know this is something that players from all regions want. It's a real kick in the balls honestly We'd all like to see cross-region play, but it isn't a kick in the balls regardless of the "honestly" you cavalierly added there. Nothing has gotten worse for you at all. I should start with 12 workers. You start with 6, nothing has gotten worse for you at all. See my point? EU should have access to US and SEA. "Nothing has gotten worse for you at all". Either allow everyone to play everywhere or nobody to play anywhere except for their local area. Everything else, is bullshit. Why is SEA-US friends more valued the my EU-US friends? Or EU-SEA friends? Come on.
Man, you talk as though having SEA server access is a gift for us. No, this just moves us from SEA to the US servers, perhaps dropping in to SEA to host local tourneys with lower ping on occasion which you guys already have the luxury of on your own native servers.
Think of it less as we're getting 12 workers, so much as we did only have 4 workers and now we have 6.
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just let people play customs only in other regions.
ladder only in your region.
if they care about lag ruining other people's games so much.
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OH MY GOD.
Thank you SOOO much Blizzard, I LOVE YOU ;D
Hahahaha wow honestly, I did not see this coming.
I was going to buy the electronic copy of the SC2 NA version at 00:00 27th July O_O.
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As it has been said many times the real reason for this move is due to network issues within Australia and New Zealand which do not exist anywhere else. If a quarter of the customers find it nearly impossible to play on the SEA servers (400+ping, ie me) yet they have paid $100 for a game which is largely sold on its Multiplayer capabilities then clearly something must be done. The problem with latency does not exist in either the US or Europe so every person who is complaining about crossrealm play from either of these countries does not have a leg to stand on. I appreciate that LA are in a similar predicament however I have not seen hard evidence of this as I have the Oceania SAE situation (the thread seems to have gone missing from the b.net forum).
Yes crossrealm play across the board would be fantastic however the Australia and New Zealand situation could not stand.
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Awesome news. I hope we get to find out soon if the digital SEA copy allows us this realmswitching.
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Someone will definitely figure out a way to change the client data from SEA to US very easily, like has already been done for US -> EU and vice versa, etc.
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wohoo! No need to think twice. going to buy sc 2 for sure
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On July 23 2010 18:33 dethrawr wrote:
Someone will definitely figure out a way to change the client data from SEA to US very easily, like has already been done for US -> EU and vice versa, etc.
Not if they lock your login info to a certain data center.
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The fact that Blizzard is doing this for one region and not all of them is BS.
"We recognize that many players have longstanding friendships and rivalries with North American players, and would like to continue playing with them."
Like that's not true for people in all regions of the world? Please.
On July 23 2010 12:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
So why can't EVERY VERSION allow you to select any region?
Exactly. Basically, they're admitting "it's possible to do this (for everybody), but we'll only do it for a few people."
But seriously, congratulations for everyone in Southeast Asia or Australia. You lucky bastards!
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my bet they arn't doing this to all regions is because they will be holding regional tournaments and don't want people like tester qualifying for european/sea/american regional tournaments.
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How much will the SEA digital copy cost? There are variety of different prices in SEA region.
Do we need to have to download both SEA and US clients to be able to play in both servers? We have to switch clients in order to play in the server we want or do we only download one server and can switch back and forth?
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On July 23 2010 19:12 stroggos wrote:
my bet they arn't doing this to all regions is because they will be holding regional tournaments and don't want people like tester qualifying for european/sea/american regional tournaments.
This would be a good theory, except all you have to do is import a US copy to play on the US servers. I find it hard to believe Tester's pro-gaming team wouldn't do that. Or they could even borrow someone's account and download the US client from bittorrent or something.
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Dang now I want a SEA copy
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On July 23 2010 19:12 stroggos wrote:
my bet they arn't doing this to all regions is because they will be holding regional tournaments and don't want people like tester qualifying for european/sea/american regional tournaments.
Never been a problem for wc3, Im pretty sure you are only allowed to go to the offline lan finals for the region you are in. You never see any of the euro or asian pros at the blatantly easier american qualifiers.
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it sounds awesome only because they denied it in the first place... but it'd be wise to just take whatever they give us.
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200 ping for Australians is a blessing. This is what we get to the US. 500+ ping to SEA is just unplayable, don't say latency is not an issue.
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We'll have to wait til more news comes out on whether the digital SEA version allows you to play on NA, but for now, I will make this tentative offer to the TL community:
I will be returning to Hong Kong for summer vacation on Aug 13. If news comes out before then that only the standard copy gets NA & SEA access, I will buy copies for you guys (of course you have to pay me back the price I paid) and either send you CD keys, mail you the box, or bring it back to you if you can make it to Manhattan to pick it up. (Since SEA/NA crossrealm only comes out within 60 days of release)
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This is awesome news. So happy blizz is doing this.
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Ill probably play on SEA more because i get 70~ less ping there, but its great to have the option.
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Hell yes! this made my year =D
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Now I know why it's $20 more than other versions.
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Oh my god... about time Australia got something in return for suffering constant lag and higher prices for games <3 Blizzard
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Look at the amount of ppl in AUS/NZ decided to buy SC2 immediately after reading this news. I guess Blizzard is doing this for money. Also, the SEA version costs much more than the NA version, allowing extra NA region play (edited after reading Deeeno's post) for SEA version is actually a good business decision.
Btw, the reason for the extra cash needed for the SEA version can be found here:
http://gameaxis.com/the-official-word-on-the-starcraft-ii-pricing/
On July 23 2010 19:14 Crywolf wrote:
How much will the SEA digital copy cost? There are variety of different prices in SEA region.
Do we need to have to download both SEA and US clients to be able to play in both servers? We have to switch clients in order to play in the server we want or do we only download one server and can switch back and forth?
You can check this thread out.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128164
From the facebook faqs, they are working out the details about the need to download the US client or the ability to switch region with just one client.
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Great~ I will buy a SEA version
I prefer English but just worry about the connection since SEA does not has beta
I played beta with Taiwan version (Chinese) on Korean server, and English on US server. Both work pretty well from Hong Kong. In case SEA has a poor connection I could still go US, and I love the number of custom maps in US server 
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gotta read more carefully next time..
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YESSS, OPTUS YOU CANNOT SCREW ME MUAHAHA
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Can SEA players get access to US servers on first day if we download the US client?
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This just shows how bad the decision of "no server switching" was in the first place. I hope they eventually realize that and allow everyone to switch regions without buying the whole thing again.
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It would be great if Blizzard didn't dictate where anyone can play really..
but this is a good step, I guess.
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So, it seems that alot of people really need to have things clarified here as this discussion is plagued by much confusion on what is actually going on here. Most opinions on this can be lumped into 2 base categories...
1. "Oh my god, why do they get cross region play and we don't, this is lame"
2. "Salutations ! We get cross region play down under!"
I'd like to rmeind people that this is not cross region play. It may SEEM like it and you might think it is, but it certainly isn't. This is the acquisition of 2 different region accounts cheaper than you otherwise would have. If it was indeed cross region play, you'd be able to play on NA whilst talking to people on SEA, which is evidently not the case.
You wonder why they would do this for SEA and not elsewhere ? Well we could speculate on that in many a way but even just reading this thread shows reason enough to do it. Have a look at the quantity of people in SEA regions who were going to just buy the NA version. By doing this it changes these peoples mind to suddenly acquire the SEA version (funnily enough the more expensive one) to get what they were going to get anyway, the ability to play on NA. However, now they will also have access to the SEA server and will be more likely to make use of it which in all is likely to increase traffic on the SEA server justifying the expenses they have in creating it.
Seems kinda silly to get all in a huff about selected cross region play when that isn't really what is happening don't you think? True cross region play would not require logging into an effective different account to play on the other server, nor cut you off from the other server whilst doing so.
So yeah, try not to get all worked up about it, it really doesn't change all that much for anyone as it seems you could have always acquired accounts for other regions.
Just my 2 cents... well maybe more like 5 cents but same difference.
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that's some bullshit. just give us all the servers. this just pisses me off because it shows me it can be done, and they simply choose not to. not to say i'm not happy for the people who get a copy, the people from that region probably need cross-realm play more than anyone, but there's demand for that in EVERY region. i can virtually feel the extra fees for opening up servers incoming. i hope i'm wrong.
at the same time, i'm worried that if EVERY player from SEA has access to a US server, and it turns out that most SEA players go US most of the time, wouldn't that make the servers significantly laggier? that IS why they have the SEA server, isn't it?
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How does it make sense that NA players aren't allowed to play on SEA, then?
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Good news. It's a good job Blizzard remembered that Europeans can't be friends with Americans, how silly would that be?
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Because they're doing it knowing that the SEA server is going to end up horribly underpopulated with everyone buying the NA version anyway?
Well, skepticism. Just because they've only announced this though, doesn't mean that they're not going to be adding crossregion play. It really just proves that they can at some point.
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On July 23 2010 12:37 Vedreth wrote:
Awesome!!!
To be fair, the gaming scene in Aus / NZ isn't the most impressive.
when they charge as much as they do for games it doesn't surprise me.
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On July 23 2010 22:56 im a roc wrote:
How does it make sense that NA players aren't allowed to play on SEA, then?
If they really wanted to play on SEA servers, they would have decided to purchase a SEA version just like those of us down here would purchase an NA version if that is where we chose to play.
In fact now, you too have the option of purchasing a SEA copy and getting both SEA and NA if you really want.
Needless to say, if you consider the more serious levels of gaming down here there isn't really much going on (English language based, which coincides what this whole decision is about) and any reasonably serious gamer down here is going to have been looking elsewhere, where the scene is of a higher standard.
@Herculix, Every player 'can' does not mean every player 'will'. You will have the more general population of player generally sticking here as the competition won't mean much to them and their friends will be down here doing the same and so on. Also the account duality it creates means people would think of considering it as a training ground to try out silly things or just relax and practice an off race so it could just as easily balance out enough such that the SEA server does see enough action.
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They should just allow you to AMM on your own region and only custom on others.
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On July 23 2010 22:26 FALAPARK wrote:
sigh unfair, the only thing i dont like about this is the language, now i need to learn korean O.O
For one thing, Korea isn't part of SEA. Secondly, most of the countries in SEA are fluent in English, I doubt you would be able to distinguish us at all.
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On July 23 2010 23:15 davsp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 22:26 FALAPARK wrote:
sigh unfair, the only thing i dont like about this is the language, now i need to learn korean O.O For one thing, Korea isn't part of SEA. Secondly, most of the countries in SEA are fluent in English, I doubt you would be able to distinguish us at all.
sigh(again), should've read carefully,and should've also think before posting. i didnt even read the article but thanks anyways. i tought it was east asia or something, grrrr.
but i do know that philippines, indonesia, cambodim, vietnam,bruni ( or is it brunei) and of course singapore are part of the southeast asian territory.
Again, thank you for making me look dumb, hahaha. >.>
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Can we play in Korea server with SEA version? I don't think Korea is in SEA region.
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I'm so happy for you Australasians
Hope this helps you.
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On July 23 2010 15:01 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 14:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns. Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues. They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency... Yet in both professional and amateur matches across all video games, INCLUDING StarCraft 2, region to region latency is a big issue. Weren't people just talking about White Ra lagging in his show matches against TLO just a few days ago? I have played both Dota and Counterstrike competitively from the US, and when I play with friends in Europe there is a huge difference. Now the fact that you used to be able to choose realms and can't now doesn't make sense, but to flat out lie and say cross region play doesn't lag is just ridiculous.
White-Ra had connection issues or the beta servers were lagging, the fact is Europeans can play just fine on the US servers, and vice versa.
The only person ever affected by lag is the guest, anyway, so even if someone has lag, his opponent won't be affected.
If you haven't tried playing on the US servers lately, you should probably do so before you claim there's a huge difference, because there isn't.
On July 23 2010 15:18 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 15:10 vica wrote:
Please Blizzard, give every copy the same access. I'll play $100, if money is so important to you. I'd rather be connected with the entire world. They'll probably offer a paid patch or something, but just implement from the get go instead of going through all the hassle. If you'd just implement it so we can change regions in the first place, there would be no latency issues. You just choose the one that doesn't lag, or you suck it up and play in a laggier server. What is wrong with you? The original post said SEA-> NA play did NOT cost money, so from that you gather money is their main motivation? Also, if you really are willing to spend any amount of money to play on other regions, you know you could just buy another copy from another region to do so? I am as critical of blizzard as anyone but when they do something right and people still complain... that's just beyond ridiculous. Self entitled people who will never be satisfied apparently.
If someone fucks you over, are you supposed to be grateful that they are gentle about it? Not having the option to switch between regions is a huge fuck you to the entire community, we are very much entitled to still be pissed off.
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On July 23 2010 23:33 FALAPARK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 23:15 davsp wrote:On July 23 2010 22:26 FALAPARK wrote:
sigh unfair, the only thing i dont like about this is the language, now i need to learn korean O.O For one thing, Korea isn't part of SEA. Secondly, most of the countries in SEA are fluent in English, I doubt you would be able to distinguish us at all. sigh(again), should've read carefully,and should've also think before posting. i didnt even read the article but thanks anyways. i tought it was east asia or something, grrrr. but i do know that philippines, indonesia, cambodim, vietnam,bruni ( or is it brunei) and of course singapore are part of the southeast asian territory. Again, thank you for making me look dumb, hahaha. >.>
Most of the places in the SEA region have english as a major language. Vietnam and Cambodia not so much.
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I don't think this is anything to get too excited over. This is a feature that was available 10 years ago.
Also I laughed pretty hard at having to use another client. It's like they specifically designed the game so you absolutely could not play outside your region.
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On July 24 2010 01:33 faseman wrote:
I don't think this is anything to get too excited over. This is a feature that was available 10 years ago.
Also I laughed pretty hard at having to use another client. It's like they specifically designed the game so you absolutely could not play outside your region.
If it's anything like the beta, the only thing that prevents you from connecting to a different server is a 20 mb base.data file - which is just so fucking ridiculous it makes me want to scream.
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On July 24 2010 01:33 faseman wrote:
I don't think this is anything to get too excited over. This is a feature that was available 10 years ago.
Also I laughed pretty hard at having to use another client. It's like they specifically designed the game so you absolutely could not play outside your region.
AFAIK the reason for all of this, is how the billing for battle.net works per region. Battle.net is not just a service for hosting games anymore, it has all of Blizzards billing plans on it for their store, WoW and a few other things. They are currently working on trying to figure a way to let everyone connect to the other regions without them getting in a lot of trouble on the other ends of battle.net. It sucks but that is how the world works on the internet regarding money.
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Brilliant move by Blizzard, because they saw that many people from SEA bought (the cheaper) US version so they made the SEA version more appealing by make it work on SEA and US servers "for free" (yeah right). And now everyone from SEA and even some from US will buy the SEA version because it works on 2 servers and not just 1.
The sneaky little bastards
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it would be sick if east asia gets opportunity, this is not happing. O.O MAYBE in the near future!.
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Yay my aussie friends yay!
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I'M SO MOTHERFUCKIN HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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On July 24 2010 01:36 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 01:33 faseman wrote:
I don't think this is anything to get too excited over. This is a feature that was available 10 years ago.
Also I laughed pretty hard at having to use another client. It's like they specifically designed the game so you absolutely could not play outside your region. If it's anything like the beta, the only thing that prevents you from connecting to a different server is a 20 mb base.data file - which is just so fucking ridiculous it makes me want to scream.
hehe I remember a long time ago me and you would go at it for this kind of stuff before the beta even came out but I have to agree this no region switching is very very stupid. It sucks that they plan on doing this "months" after release when I really don't see how its so hard, they did it for sc1, wc3 (I believe), most games don't have this problem so why does blizzard?
Hopefully they add this sometime soon, would also like clan support...
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Mm two months after release.. I might just buy both copies at launch anyway.
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We're being happy over such a small thing. Shows how much Blizzard has changed over the years.
Nonetheless, a good change, at least I can now compete in both servers and observe the differences between the trends in the servers.
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This is simply fantastic news! I hope this trend continues and we get global access! XD
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Chill guys... Didn't Blizzard said they will eventually implement cross server capability for everyone? I think we AUS/NZ are just guinea pig, as usual for being isolated from the rest of the world. Once it's proven stable, i'm sure they will gradually implement that for everyone.
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Thank god. This was one of my biggest concerns about SC2. Most of my friends are in NA and I'd much prefer to play with them.
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Can someone help me out here? I live in south south china, but I digitally downloaded the US version because I'd rather play with my RL friends from Canada and the guys on IRC etc. I would have to now RE DOWNLOAD the SEA version, or would I be able to patch it to SEA, then activate it?
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On July 26 2010 17:24 mcneebs wrote:
Can someone help me out here? I live in south south china, but I digitally downloaded the US version because I'd rather play with my RL friends from Canada and the guys on IRC etc. I would have to now RE DOWNLOAD the SEA version, or would I be able to patch it to SEA, then activate it?
They said that your CD-KEY will define your region, not the client that you are using. Not quite sure about it tho, but try if you can cancel your order then buy the SEA version.
just a hint: I think it's going to take a few months before this is implemented. T
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One of my biggest concerns with SC:1 was the amount of non-english games in the list, I'm not exactly what sure what language it was - and with out trying to be racist - I felt perhaps it could of stuck in the Asia server.
So you could probably understand my disappointment when Australia was locked in with a lot of foreign speaking countries (a lot of people say English is a major language in these countries however, not sure on how fluent the English is). This is great news.
But still, I have not much motivation to download another whole client + updates. My bandwidth is limited as it is.
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Meh.. Tired of reading people claiming that the players of SEA not being able to type out English.
Nonetheless, thumbs up for this (I guess?).
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On July 23 2010 14:35 MuTT wrote:
This is one step closer to cross region play everyone has been asking for! Blizz you do listen <3
I don't think its much to applaud that they put features in that should be from the start.
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SEA servers are....Up, happy hunting
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On July 26 2010 20:10 DuaneDibly wrote:
SEA servers are....Up, happy hunting
What what what are you playing already??
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installing at the moment, its a pretty slow install, 92%
edit: now done, nobody online to do matches with, single player ahoy
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On July 26 2010 20:29 DuaneDibly wrote:
installing at the moment, its a pretty slow install, 92%
edit: now done, nobody online to do matches with, single player ahoy
Let us know what the delay feels like in the SEA server compared to the US (beta) server.
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Very nice. Know i would like to see EU and US together.
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cool, I just finished the installation and updating patch now.
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This is good news for SEA players. But I do think it sucks that all Korean players will have a free pass to NA tournaments and ladder. I thought I had a fighting chance to maybe one day make it into NA pro-league, but now it will be flooded by koreans seeking an easier pathway to fame.
Hugely disappointed.
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Wow, this is a great news... Now all I have to do is to find a way to pay for my SEA version
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Does the Korean play in SEA+Oceania server or do they have their own Korea server?
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On July 26 2010 21:58 Crywolf wrote:
Does the Korean play in SEA+Oceania server or do they have their own Korea server?
I'm pretty sure that Korean has their dedicated server. Since SC2's success will depend alot on how it performe in Korea
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OMFG! is it up already?
farrout. i missed the courier dude by like 5minutes because i thought i was late for my lecture today. but ended up being 1 hour early. great
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it's already in stores today/monday? or are people breaking street date? i just got back from trip yesterday so i'm in the dark :/ i'm under the impression it's out tommorow aka tuesday.
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Korea server and SEA server are different server.
Taiwan (Traditional Chinese) and Korea (Korean) are on Korea server
while SEA (English) is on SEA server @Singapore
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Thanks for the clarification Siman! Very helpful. I never realized this
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On July 26 2010 22:23 friendlybus wrote:
it's already in stores today/monday? or are people breaking street date? i just got back from trip yesterday so i'm in the dark :/ i'm under the impression it's out tommorow aka tuesday.
Keep in mind SEA is in a very different timezone than EST
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On July 26 2010 22:36 krell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 22:23 friendlybus wrote:
it's already in stores today/monday? or are people breaking street date? i just got back from trip yesterday so i'm in the dark :/ i'm under the impression it's out tommorow aka tuesday. Keep in mind SEA is in a very different timezone than EST
Yeah I figured as much.
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About time we actually get something extra considering we pay twice as much for games as people in North America do.
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On July 24 2010 01:26 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 15:01 Ocedic wrote:On July 23 2010 14:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On July 23 2010 14:27 Windblade wrote:
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Blizzard never listens to it's fans! impossibible!
Btw troll above - Blizzard already said they are gunna bring in cross-realm play at some point, however they cant do it right away because latency/network issues. B.Net 2.0 is still a brand new network and it'll take time for it to be 100%. The regions in question have different circumstances than the other major regions that necessitated Blizzard to act upon their concerns. Listen, this is complete bullshit. I have played on all servers - there are no latency issues. They have let people choose the server they want to play on since Warcraft 2, the reason it isn't in the game now has nothing to do with latency... Yet in both professional and amateur matches across all video games, INCLUDING StarCraft 2, region to region latency is a big issue. Weren't people just talking about White Ra lagging in his show matches against TLO just a few days ago? I have played both Dota and Counterstrike competitively from the US, and when I play with friends in Europe there is a huge difference. Now the fact that you used to be able to choose realms and can't now doesn't make sense, but to flat out lie and say cross region play doesn't lag is just ridiculous. White-Ra had connection issues or the beta servers were lagging, the fact is Europeans can play just fine on the US servers, and vice versa. The only person ever affected by lag is the guest, anyway, so even if someone has lag, his opponent won't be affected. If you haven't tried playing on the US servers lately, you should probably do so before you claim there's a huge difference, because there isn't. Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 15:18 Ocedic wrote:On July 23 2010 15:10 vica wrote:
Please Blizzard, give every copy the same access. I'll play $100, if money is so important to you. I'd rather be connected with the entire world. They'll probably offer a paid patch or something, but just implement from the get go instead of going through all the hassle. If you'd just implement it so we can change regions in the first place, there would be no latency issues. You just choose the one that doesn't lag, or you suck it up and play in a laggier server. What is wrong with you? The original post said SEA-> NA play did NOT cost money, so from that you gather money is their main motivation? Also, if you really are willing to spend any amount of money to play on other regions, you know you could just buy another copy from another region to do so? I am as critical of blizzard as anyone but when they do something right and people still complain... that's just beyond ridiculous. Self entitled people who will never be satisfied apparently. If someone fucks you over, are you supposed to be grateful that they are gentle about it? Not having the option to switch between regions is a huge fuck you to the entire community, we are very much entitled to still be pissed off.
I just had my topic on this closed, can someone please confirm if there is, or is not plans for all regions to play all regions yet?
I refuse to pay these greedy bastards until there is.
As an Aussie, some bullshit consolation prize of being able to talk to the US servers doesn't cut it, do all my EU family and friends not exist then?...
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SEA is soo empty.. no one plays customs.. hope NA access soon. And yes, SEA version is so damn expensive.
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Don't buy faulty games, region zoning like this is bullshit.
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