Void rays don't do bonus damage to armoured, but I guess you are assuming they do.
You sure?http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Void_Ray
Prismatic beam
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* 10 (+15 vs armored)
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* 10 (+15 vs armored)
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TMTurtle
183 Posts
Void rays don't do bonus damage to armoured, but I guess you are assuming they do. You sure?http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Void_Ray Prismatic beam Damage * 5 * 10 (+15 vs armored) | ||
Kpyolysis32
553 Posts
On August 31 2010 01:29 Voyager I wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2010 13:31 eNbee wrote: On August 25 2010 16:59 Soulish wrote: On July 14 2010 10:58 Duban wrote: In a game against low level players I went Mass Ravens. First I killed 10-15 Void Rays with auto-turrets Lies lmao. First clue, "against low level players", sounds like you're trying to justify a bad lie. A few autoturrets (their armoured structures by the way so void rays do max damage on them) would not kill 10-15 void rays. In fact, I guarantee a single void ray can take care of 5, maybe even 6 auto turrets by itself. A raven only has 200 energy so that's 4 turrets MAXIMUM. Assuming you didn't have max energy (I'll be generous and give you 3 turrets per raven), you would need almost double the amount of ravens than void ray's to take them out (It's probably double or more than that once the beam gets charged). at 100/200 a pop, 30 ravens cost a whopping 3000/6000 to make. 15 VR's? 3750/2250. Void rays don't do bonus damage to armoured, but I guess you are assuming they do. You're bashing someone with false information and looking like an ass. Auto turrets do quite alright against voidrays, way better than 5-6 to take out 1 void ray, more like 2-3 (probably not even 3). Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. How do people post without even understanding basic mechanics? Void Rays have a large bonus vs armored targets, but Auto-Turrets can still do fairly well against them. I personally prefer HSMs though. A half dozen or so of those tossed into a baddie ball of A-moved Void Rays will simply evaporate it in about two seconds. Massing Ravens is actually quite deadly in games loose enough to let it happen. I've hit damned near 50 goofing around in 4v4 and FFAs. This man is correct, and Mass Ravens is really fun. The best part is that you can spend all the spare minerals on expansions, so you can do things like 6 base Raven (I maxed on Ravens doing this once, then threw down >60 Raxes with Reactors thanks to the gigantic amount of Mules I could call down and became capable of instantly remaxing on Rines every 25 seconds. Most fun game I have ever played. | ||
Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On August 30 2010 20:06 T.O.P. wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2010 14:03 Tsagacity wrote: On August 30 2010 05:56 PhuxPro wrote: Offensive GG has been classic BM for the last decade in Starcraft.On August 30 2010 04:31 UniversalSnip wrote: On August 26 2010 01:50 ShovZ wrote: T vs T on delta quadrant, I lose stupidly to some Thor play, I still have a couple of tanks and marauders when he rolls in with some cloaked banshees, and calls offense GG... So obviously I lift all my buildings and fly around the map, in the meantime... Him: FUCK YOU, FUCKING NOOB, DON'T DESERVE TO BE DIAMOND, etc etc Me: well, that's what you get for offensive gg. Him: I ACTUALLY GG'D COS I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD GAME, WHY THE FUCK YOU BEING A NOOB ABOUT IT, JUST FUCKING QUIT, ETC ETC Me: that's not quite how it works... alt+tab out to browse TL. I think he might still be there....lemme go check....xD honestly, kinda sounds legit... That is quite how it works. GG doesn't only mean "I won, you lost." It means good game. The first meaning came from assholes from all types of games that would just say it because they dominated their opponent. You BM'd. On August 09 2010 14:31 Alphonsse wrote: Lol, I hope you posted this in the practice partner thread as well :s Protip: If you're going to use the practice partner thread, be prepared to lose to your fellow TL'ers. Site note: I used void rays in the least "cheesy" way possible, as a late game transition with speed upgraded. Also, it was the first game in which I used them against him. ![]() I thought practice partner threads were to find cool people to mass games and have discussions with. Raging seems like it would defeat the point. He has a point, practicing against a guy who cheeses is a waste of time. If you cant beat the cheese - dont play with the big boys.... You need to learn how to beat everything eventually. It does no good playing "15 min no rush" or "no reapers, banelings, hydras, voidrays, colossus or tanks" | ||
evoli
United States333 Posts
I go five rax-reaper, which he kinda scouts (he scouted two rax, one with a tech lab). I push at around 8 minutes. He has two zerglings, two queens, and two really saturated bases. I win right there, he rages. He sends me a message after the game and rages some more. I wasn't too bothered, because after all, he had two lings and two queens at eight minutes. In our chat he said this though, which I thought was hilarious: "I thought you were another retarded Terran waving his dick around in his almighty fortress." Apparently he had overlord scouts around the map and was going to get lings or spines out when he saw me move out (which still isn't a great idea, imo, but I don't play zerg so maybe it's how you do it). He didn't see me leave my base because my reapers cliff hopped out. This was at Diamond, around 700. Funny thing is, after he chilled out I asked if he wanted to do 2s and he agreed ^.^ | ||
Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On August 30 2010 20:06 T.O.P. wrote: Lol, why is going void rays cheese? It seems pretty standard to me. Show nested quote + On August 30 2010 14:03 Tsagacity wrote: On August 30 2010 05:56 PhuxPro wrote: Offensive GG has been classic BM for the last decade in Starcraft.On August 30 2010 04:31 UniversalSnip wrote: On August 26 2010 01:50 ShovZ wrote: T vs T on delta quadrant, I lose stupidly to some Thor play, I still have a couple of tanks and marauders when he rolls in with some cloaked banshees, and calls offense GG... So obviously I lift all my buildings and fly around the map, in the meantime... Him: FUCK YOU, FUCKING NOOB, DON'T DESERVE TO BE DIAMOND, etc etc Me: well, that's what you get for offensive gg. Him: I ACTUALLY GG'D COS I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD GAME, WHY THE FUCK YOU BEING A NOOB ABOUT IT, JUST FUCKING QUIT, ETC ETC Me: that's not quite how it works... alt+tab out to browse TL. I think he might still be there....lemme go check....xD honestly, kinda sounds legit... That is quite how it works. GG doesn't only mean "I won, you lost." It means good game. The first meaning came from assholes from all types of games that would just say it because they dominated their opponent. You BM'd. On August 09 2010 14:31 Alphonsse wrote: Lol, I hope you posted this in the practice partner thread as well :s Protip: If you're going to use the practice partner thread, be prepared to lose to your fellow TL'ers. Site note: I used void rays in the least "cheesy" way possible, as a late game transition with speed upgraded. Also, it was the first game in which I used them against him. ![]() I thought practice partner threads were to find cool people to mass games and have discussions with. Raging seems like it would defeat the point. He has a point, practicing against a guy who cheeses is a waste of time. Not to mention from the screenshot you can see that it's a 32 minute game with many bases, so whatever happened probably wasn't an all-in. | ||
maliceee
United States634 Posts
me ![]() him:zerg are so op me:lmao you play terran him:all you have to do is 1a so fucking retarded me:hmmm i guess so him: seriously, you just 1a zerglings and they rape everything me:.... him:yea i fuckin thought so. really thought he was joking, until he kept going him: you can expo in the first minute, that is so FUKIN stupid me: no you can't him: YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT AND YOU BEAT ME. SO STUPID me: I mean, i could 6 pool. stop whining dude you rushed with mm and nothing else him: IT BEATS PRO EVERY TIME YOU FUGGIN IDIOT and on and on and on Of course, every time i lose to mech i say lmao nice micro and quit. I need to work on that | ||
.Carnage
United States99 Posts
"cool reapers bro" "F*ck you im not trying" I asked him if he was mad and he went off typing as fast as he could about he was going to get his girlfriend drunk and f*ck her and how i was going to play "this game" all night long and wank for the 5th time today. Then I just said "yep u mad" and he left me with "stop using internet lingo likes it your real personality" XD | ||
bombcar
United States68 Posts
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eNbee
Belgium487 Posts
On August 31 2010 01:29 Voyager I wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2010 13:31 eNbee wrote: On August 25 2010 16:59 Soulish wrote: On July 14 2010 10:58 Duban wrote: In a game against low level players I went Mass Ravens. First I killed 10-15 Void Rays with auto-turrets Lies lmao. First clue, "against low level players", sounds like you're trying to justify a bad lie. A few autoturrets (their armoured structures by the way so void rays do max damage on them) would not kill 10-15 void rays. In fact, I guarantee a single void ray can take care of 5, maybe even 6 auto turrets by itself. A raven only has 200 energy so that's 4 turrets MAXIMUM. Assuming you didn't have max energy (I'll be generous and give you 3 turrets per raven), you would need almost double the amount of ravens than void ray's to take them out (It's probably double or more than that once the beam gets charged). at 100/200 a pop, 30 ravens cost a whopping 3000/6000 to make. 15 VR's? 3750/2250. Void rays don't do bonus damage to armoured, but I guess you are assuming they do. You're bashing someone with false information and looking like an ass. Auto turrets do quite alright against voidrays, way better than 5-6 to take out 1 void ray, more like 2-3 (probably not even 3). Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. How do people post without even understanding basic mechanics? Void Rays have a large bonus vs armored targets. I was 99% sure they didn't. To check that 1% I just checked in game, they never get a +armoured modifier, not even when charged. So yea, you also look like an ass ![]() That web page that was posted probably has old data! Disclaimer : If the ingame tooltip is incorrect all blame goes to blizzard! :D | ||
arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 31 2010 08:31 eNbee wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2010 01:29 Voyager I wrote: On August 30 2010 13:31 eNbee wrote: On August 25 2010 16:59 Soulish wrote: On July 14 2010 10:58 Duban wrote: In a game against low level players I went Mass Ravens. First I killed 10-15 Void Rays with auto-turrets Lies lmao. First clue, "against low level players", sounds like you're trying to justify a bad lie. A few autoturrets (their armoured structures by the way so void rays do max damage on them) would not kill 10-15 void rays. In fact, I guarantee a single void ray can take care of 5, maybe even 6 auto turrets by itself. A raven only has 200 energy so that's 4 turrets MAXIMUM. Assuming you didn't have max energy (I'll be generous and give you 3 turrets per raven), you would need almost double the amount of ravens than void ray's to take them out (It's probably double or more than that once the beam gets charged). at 100/200 a pop, 30 ravens cost a whopping 3000/6000 to make. 15 VR's? 3750/2250. Void rays don't do bonus damage to armoured, but I guess you are assuming they do. You're bashing someone with false information and looking like an ass. Auto turrets do quite alright against voidrays, way better than 5-6 to take out 1 void ray, more like 2-3 (probably not even 3). Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. How do people post without even understanding basic mechanics? Void Rays have a large bonus vs armored targets. Yeah they do | ||
RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
On August 31 2010 06:26 .Carnage wrote: Guy goes for 5 reapers to my main which i held off easily "cool reapers bro" "F*ck you im not trying" I asked him if he was mad and he went off typing as fast as he could about he was going to get his girlfriend drunk and f*ck her and how i was going to play "this game" all night long and wank for the 5th time today. Then I just said "yep u mad" and he left me with "stop using internet lingo likes it your real personality" XD I would have questioned why he needs to get his "girlfriend" drunk before she'll f*ck him. | ||
Grimjim
United States395 Posts
Then he spends 10 minutes dodging me, using U MAD, etc. All caps. Very annoying. But I kept up a pleasant face and kept wondering when he was going to join. He refused to do it on anything but LT, so I hosted that, and waited until the 4 second mark before leaving. PhrozenN, if you're out there, I'm still waiting ![]() | ||
CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
Me: "gl hf" Enemy: "Go suck a fat D*ck B*tch" Me: "..." Enemy: "why u say stuff like that when we are fight anyway?" Me: *Silence* | ||
Lergore
Sweden8 Posts
Always hate it when people 6 pool! : [ | ||
iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
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tilduh
53 Posts
Rage is at 3:20 | ||
JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On August 31 2010 01:43 Grimjim wrote: Oh I have another. I was playing a ZvT on Xel'naga Caverns. I FE as normal, hold off his early Hellion pressure incredibly easily with Queens blocking a ramp and 2 Spine Crawlers (Just 2, this comes into play later), and throw up a Spire just to force him to go Thors so I can rape him with Roaches. He pushes with two Thors and some Marines and catches me right before the last half of my Roach force hatches though and takes out my nat, meaning gg. Feeling mischievous, I wanted to see how he felt about ZvT. Me: Terran is just silly Him: Stop crying. Me: Lol Him: Waah I'm gonna fast expand and not build an army. Me: You seem to be filled with rage. Him: Gonna whore towers (I had 2 Spine crawlers -___- Rofl) Me: LOL Me: What's with the rage bro? Him: Zerg complaining pisses me off Me: Probably because once you're nerfed, you're going to lose alot. Him: LOL Me: ![]() Him: The patch nerfs Siege Tanks Me: I saw the nerfs bro, no need to cry. Him: Do you see any Siege Tanks? Me: You thought those were all the nerfs? Me: Stop crying ![]() Upon viewing the replay, his macro was absolutely awful. So I'd say this is a classic case of being carried by your race. Only one who seems to rage is you, even here on the forums. | ||
vizniz
United States120 Posts
I repelled both, and in both instances, when I finally pushed back and won the game, I got called "lucky". As if luck had something to do with it. Emerging comping trend? If so, it's really silly. | ||
Grimjim
United States395 Posts
On August 31 2010 19:24 JackDino wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2010 01:43 Grimjim wrote: Oh I have another. I was playing a ZvT on Xel'naga Caverns. I FE as normal, hold off his early Hellion pressure incredibly easily with Queens blocking a ramp and 2 Spine Crawlers (Just 2, this comes into play later), and throw up a Spire just to force him to go Thors so I can rape him with Roaches. He pushes with two Thors and some Marines and catches me right before the last half of my Roach force hatches though and takes out my nat, meaning gg. Feeling mischievous, I wanted to see how he felt about ZvT. Me: Terran is just silly Him: Stop crying. Me: Lol Him: Waah I'm gonna fast expand and not build an army. Me: You seem to be filled with rage. Him: Gonna whore towers (I had 2 Spine crawlers -___- Rofl) Me: LOL Me: What's with the rage bro? Him: Zerg complaining pisses me off Me: Probably because once you're nerfed, you're going to lose alot. Him: LOL Me: ![]() Him: The patch nerfs Siege Tanks Me: I saw the nerfs bro, no need to cry. Him: Do you see any Siege Tanks? Me: You thought those were all the nerfs? Me: Stop crying ![]() Upon viewing the replay, his macro was absolutely awful. So I'd say this is a classic case of being carried by your race. Only one who seems to rage is you, even here on the forums. I'm flattered you know who I am. | ||
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