I use a mouse with 2 side buttons for your thumb, and have ctrl and shift bound to them; it makes it so much easier to play and quickly bind control groups without dislocating my hand :p It makes it so much easier for me, especially with 1-4 as army and 5-8 as buildings, and f5 to f8 as bound camera locations

So I was wondering; is this allowed in tournaments? I'm nowhere near progamer level yet, but hey i might be someday and it would suck to be told ive been playing the game wrong for years or something.

What opinion do you guys have on this? a good idea or too much like cheating?

Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo

Germany2959 Posts

July 12 2010 20:48 GMT

Hmm that sounds indeed pretty handy. Though it would take me forever to adept to that change.
Especially the ctrl key would be interesting.

And I doubt something like this would be forbidden competitively as it's just assigning a key to your mouse and no macro.

Roniii

United States289 Posts

July 12 2010 20:49 GMT

i dont think it would be allowed.

Anxiety

United States650 Posts

July 12 2010 20:49 GMT

No, this is not allowed in tournaments (i think).This is rather cheap compared to someone who doesn't, plus what if your on your friends comp playing? without your mouse?

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And I doubt something like this would be forbidden competitively as it's just assigning a key to your mouse and no macro.

It helps macro.

CruelZeratul

Germany4588 Posts

July 12 2010 20:57 GMT

I would bind Storm/EMP/etc. to those buttons.
I guess most of the tournaments wouldn't allow that, and perhaps even Blizzard forbid it in the user agreement.

Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo

Germany2959 Posts

July 12 2010 20:58 GMT

On July 13 2010 05:49 AnxietE wrote:
No, this is not allowed in tournaments (i think).This is rather cheap compared to someone who doesn't, plus what if your on your friends comp playing? without your mouse?

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It helps macro.

So what? Custom keys are there to control stuff easier.
And as long as it only functions like pressing they key I cannot see this as an advantage.

SiNiquity

United States734 Posts

July 12 2010 20:59 GMT

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It helps macro.

He means Macro as in a stored set of key combinations.

iEchoic

United States1776 Posts

July 12 2010 21:01 GMT

This is fine, nobody that isn't a complete busybody is going to care as long as one button -> one function. It's no different than buying a nice keyboard, an expensive mouse, and an expensive headset, but nobody is going to disallow that.

Rule of thumb: bind key-to-key, don't use macros.

That aside, why use control? Control is already very easy to hit.

Azarthis

United Kingdom19 Posts

July 12 2010 21:10 GMT

Well the way I see it, the people who play without it actively choose not to, as the option is there for the taking, though the point about using other equipment is a good one (luckily all my friends have mice with extra buttons :p)

I've been considering attempting to change styles (hence this thread), but I have zero experience of using ctrl/shift with number keys and F-keys like that. What finger do you guys keep on ctrl while binding keygroups? What angle is your keyboard supposed to be at in relation to your body? The only way it wouldnt be ridiculously uncomfortable that i can see would be with it tilting about 45 degrees away from you (so you'd use ctrl with your little finger) but i never see anyone doing that.

BaaL`

297 Posts

July 12 2010 21:15 GMT

#10

On July 13 2010 06:10 Azarthis wrote:
Well the way I see it, the people who play without it actively choose not to, as the option is there for the taking, though the point about using other equipment is a good one (luckily all my friends have mice with extra buttons :p)

I've been considering attempting to change styles (hence this thread), but I have zero experience of using ctrl/shift with number keys and F-keys like that. What finger do you guys keep on ctrl while binding keygroups? What angle is your keyboard supposed to be at in relation to your body? The only way it wouldnt be ridiculously uncomfortable that i can see would be with it tilting about 45 degrees away from you (so you'd use ctrl with your little finger) but i never see anyone doing that.

Pink on ctrl, 1-8 is reachable for me without much trouble. The F-keys I dont use.

MuTT

United States398 Posts

July 12 2010 22:05 GMT

#11

just position your hand so you can hold down control not with your finger but with ball of your pinky and shift with the bottom join of the pinky and you'll be faster than you ever could with a mouse

djWHEAT

United States925 Posts

July 12 2010 22:09 GMT

#12

I use this option for ALT on my Logitech G5. It makes it so I can play w/o health bars, but quickly pop them on via MOUSE4 without losing any mouse mobility.

I've never tried CTRL tho, seems like it'd be alot easier to misfire a grouping.

RageOverdose

United States690 Posts

July 12 2010 22:13 GMT

#13

I figure this would just confuse me a little when using shift, as I'm not used to using the mouse for anything but selection and right clicking.

But hey, whatever works for you. Custom configurations are always cool, and it doesn't seem unfair because it's preference and you still have to do the actions yourself, unlike macros which just do things for you.

Erucious

Norway393 Posts

July 12 2010 23:38 GMT

#14

On July 13 2010 07:05 MuTT wrote:
just position your hand so you can hold down control not with your finger but with ball of your pinky and shift with the bottom join of the pinky and you'll be faster than you ever could with a mouse

^this is how i do it too. Works perfect

Baerinho

Germany257 Posts

July 12 2010 23:39 GMT

#15

i have backspace bound to one mousebutton, only change i made, just dont want to reach over for inject larvae

OverSight

United States104 Posts

July 12 2010 23:50 GMT

#16

On July 13 2010 08:39 Baerinho wrote:
i have backspace bound to one mousebutton, only change i made, just dont want to reach over for inject larvae

Same, backspace bound, one of my hotkeys, and ctrl on my mouse. Backspace is the most used. The rest just for convenience. I prefer using shift button. Shift casting or building is more comfortable for me with the two handed movement

InfiniteIce

United States794 Posts

July 12 2010 23:57 GMT

#17

On July 13 2010 05:57 CruelZeratul wrote:
I would bind Storm/EMP/etc. to those buttons.
I guess most of the tournaments wouldn't allow that, and perhaps even Blizzard forbid it in the user agreement.

Blizzard cannot prohibit me from modifying what my mouse buttons do.

My computer is used for things besides playing their games.

What if one were disabled and physically unable to hit certain combinations of keys with their left hand alone? It would be a discriminatory practice to not allow them to effectively use their mouse to stand in for the keyboard for certain functions.

Ndugu

United States1078 Posts

July 12 2010 23:58 GMT

#18

On July 13 2010 08:57 InfiniteIce wrote:

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You can do pretty much whatever you want until you're in a tournament

VanGarde

Sweden755 Posts

July 25 2010 14:12 GMT

#19

Not saying that this IS allowed in tournaments to come but it definitely should. The dreaded shift and ctrl keys are the nightmares of ergonomics. The move you make with your hand to press those keys are brutal on the wrist. Programmers and people who play games that use those keys a lot will in time do a real number on their ulnar nerve.

Moving those keys to the mouse would probably buy every gamer many more years of playing before their joints cave in.