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On July 13 2010 10:55 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 09:13 Dionyseus wrote:
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release. I keep hearing about this but I'm yet to see a source of an actual blizzard employee saying this. Can someone provide any evidence or is everyone sort of just agreeing to the same rumour?
As far as I know it's just everybody agreeing with each other based on an old image:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/4/43/Leagues_SC2_Game1.jpg
Unfortunately it's now VERY old and incorrect as there is no mention of Diamond league etc. I have yet to find anything posted by Blizzard confirming an actual invite only Pro league for SC2. If there is such a thing, could someone point me towards it as I would love to read that also 
I remember a Blizzard post on their forums regarding a "league above platinum" which people assumed to be a Pro league, but it turned out just to be Diamond league.
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There is a league above diamond. Go play in some tournaments.
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They should really make the entire Diamond league a universal ladder. They're whole "feel good and special" division philosophy is clearly aimed at lower level players, and I'm pretty sure no one in diamond would object.
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My friend is in that division! Poor him... =P
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On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote:
Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul,
They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase!
actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
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Yeah I was watching a stream of someone named Trump, he too is in that division and showed the stream. I was very impressed that there is such an epic division.
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On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:
actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Do you guys play the games as straight up ladders with little chatter and mostly focused or is there a good deal of talking when facing other pros? It seems like those matches would be the most useful, but I imagine there is a reluctance to show your hand to potential competitors.
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On July 12 2010 22:52 gillon wrote:
I went 4-1 in placements and ended up in Silver. Standards seem to have shifted, lol.
LOL same here, mate. And I just played a guy from Gold division who was 4-2 before losing to me.
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On July 13 2010 14:28 imPERSONater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:
actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Do you guys play the games as straight up ladders with little chatter and mostly focused or is there a good deal of talking when facing other pros? It seems like those matches would be the most useful, but I imagine there is a reluctance to show your hand to potential competitors.
i can only speak on my behalf but generally there is polite chat/cute mannerisms exchange and between certain people i get along with strategy talk/poking fun of
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On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote:
Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul,
They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division...
Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP
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LOL @improving the matchmaking system. The system is based on Elo or flick or whatever. There's nothing to improve unless they switch to trueskill which is owned by microsoft.
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On July 13 2010 14:59 HuK wrote:
i can only speak on my behalf but generally there is polite chat/cute mannerisms exchange and between certain people i get along with strategy talk/poking fun of
Interesting, thanks for the response!
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On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote:
If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha
HAHahha! fail!
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On July 13 2010 10:55 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 09:13 Dionyseus wrote:On July 13 2010 08:35 Polygamy wrote:
Hopefully this is the right place to post this, if not feel free to relocate it.
How I would improve the ladder system:
Besides the already discussed idea of making it so you can compare your self with people in other divisions I would also make it so that the ladders reset the same way iCCup resets with the start of a new season. Instead making players play placement matches players would start in the same level league they finished in perviously (i.e. finish in gold) start in gold next season. It would be great if you could look at another players (or your own) profile and look at how you did in other seasons, this could be used to show improvement.
I would also implement a level above Diamond league, this league for the sake of this example will be called "Kings League" (KL). The only way to reach the KL would be by finishing the previous season in first, second or third place of a Diamond league, this league would be much smaller then the other leagues and would be only the top players across all servers. To keep this league small and to insure that it stay competitive at the end of each season the bottom players would be dropped back down to Diamond (clearly I don't have the stats to do the math but you can imagine that if 100 players moved up each season 100 bottom players would be moved back down.)
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release. I keep hearing about this but I'm yet to see a source of an actual blizzard employee saying this. Can someone provide any evidence or is everyone sort of just agreeing to the same rumour?
hm I'm surprised there are still people who don't know about it.
It's been announced since the beginning of the beta.
2 blue posts talking about it:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767190052&postId=237646723152&sid=3000#14
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766799717&postId=237646719218&sid=3000#0
and I'm sure you've seen this picture from the beginning of the beta:
![[image loading]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/4/43/Leagues_SC2_Game1.jpg)
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On July 13 2010 16:18 Darkn3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote:
Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul,
They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division... Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP
Everyone loses random games to random people, especially in practice. Even Flash lost to Nal_ra.
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On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote:
If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha ROFLMAO seriously the irony.
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On July 14 2010 02:01 Bash wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 16:18 Darkn3ss wrote:On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote:
Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul,
They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division... Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP Everyone loses random games to random people, especially in practice. Even Flash lost to Nal_ra.
Well Nal_ra isn't exactly random people... lol if Flash lost to me then it would be a big deal...
On July 13 2010 16:27 darmousseh wrote:
LOL @improving the matchmaking system. The system is based on Elo or flick or whatever. There's nothing to improve unless they switch to trueskill which is owned by microsoft.
Lol I meant to put "improving" in quotations! XP
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On July 14 2010 02:15 cocosoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote:
If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha ROFLMAO seriously the irony.
lol thats so fking funny haha
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On July 12 2010 20:48 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Hmmmmm..
How did they all end up in the same diamond league>? By chance?
Most likely it was one of the first Diamond league created. Considering these are the best players it and they all play alot it would not take them very long to get into diamond.
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