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AFAIK there is still no site able to get a single ranking out of the ladder system since the end of the division numbers, so I figured we could remake a thread about screenshot(ted?) divisions. Here's one I found to be pretty sick:
![[image loading]](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g309/Tamerlane___/SC2/ArgoEcho.jpg)
Some other known players bellow 12th rank include: Slush, Drewbie, Filthy, nEAnS, SUGGY, Capoch, LagLovah, KiWiKaKi, GARIMTO and a few guys wearing WeRRa tag
I think that's the kind of diamond division we are looking for in the release, sadly, that's not gonna happen.
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Being in that particular division made my dreams of rank 1 diamond quite laughable. =/
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Any bets TL will just make there own ranking system anyway, plus there is allot of debate to how the list should go down. btw, does anyone know how many people are in diamond and how many devisions there are?
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Damn, that division is badass.
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On July 12 2010 18:34 Kantutan wrote: Damn, that division is badass. but is it real?
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On July 12 2010 18:34 Pigzyf5 wrote: btw, does anyone know how many people are in diamond and how many devisions there are? i doubt anyone knows but blizzard
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No guarantee about those names being real or not.
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I got raped by katari earlier today
Being in that division would be super cool with all the werra guys. I am guessing a lot of the people in the top of that ladder though would have moved on to euro/asia servers now that they are up.
Idras record is outrageous, but I wonder if we will ever see people go 100-0 like qazzi in war3.
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On July 12 2010 18:33 link0 wrote: Being in that particular division made my dreams of rank 1 diamond quite laughable. =/ rofl no luck dude :D
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Many of them are probably real. I mean how many zerg players that like to fake names would be able to get a 87-19 record.
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On July 12 2010 18:43 Alpina wrote: No guarantee about those names being real or not.
I trust those names as being the legitimate people. We won't know for certain until we get responses from every single one, but I can confidently say that HuK and Ryan (lower in the same division) are the real deal, and it seems only natural that the best players reached diamond division at similar times. Or however Blizzard fills up divisions.
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This is legit, my mate is in this division as well 
Oh... your talking about the authenticity of the players being the "real" IdrA and such haha silly me
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I doubt there's too many players capable of achieving such stats that would be willing to advertise other people's names while they're on top. It seems like Blizzard has seriously cut down on the amount of diamond leagues, which is a good thing, and this has resulted in such insane groups. I really hope some of the players decide to leak some replays for us lesser players to watch.
Seems like Tester (oGssSKS) has switched to Terran by the way, he used to play protoss. It's possible its someone else playing on his account but switching races wouldn't be too unbelievable seeing as terran is kinda considered to be the strongest race right now.
Would love to see some more screenshots of these ladders.
edit: Anyone know the identifier of anyone in that division so it's possible to track how the rankings evolve?
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Tough league :D I'm surprised Tester isn't any higher though
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Ahah, I knew it! My bro faced Drewbie the other night and lost. The entire time I was watching, I was like, "I know that name... isn't he a Team Liquid member?"
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On July 12 2010 19:04 Puosu wrote: I doubt there's too many players capable of achieving such stats that would be willing to advertise other people's names while they're on top. It seems like Blizzard has seriously cut down on the amount of diamond leagues, which is a good thing, and this has resulted in such insane groups. I really hope some of the players decide to leak some replays for us lesser players to watch.
Seems like Tester (oGssSKS) has switched to Terran by the way, he used to play protoss. It's possible its someone else playing on his account but switching races wouldn't be too unbelievable seeing as terran is kinda considered to be the strongest race right now.
Would love to see some more screenshots of these ladders.
looooooool I played Tester? T_tt;;;;
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On July 12 2010 18:47 Hider wrote: Many of them are probably real. I mean how many zerg players that like to fake names would be able to get a 87-19 record.
Its 67-19.
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On July 12 2010 19:37 Onlinejaguar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 18:47 Hider wrote: Many of them are probably real. I mean how many zerg players that like to fake names would be able to get a 87-19 record. Its 67-19.
his point still stands
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On July 12 2010 19:37 Onlinejaguar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 18:47 Hider wrote: Many of them are probably real. I mean how many zerg players that like to fake names would be able to get a 87-19 record. Its 67-19.
oh, nevermind then!
lol
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you're going to see the koreans drop out of the top of the us rankings soon, since the asian server just came back up again for phase 2 just yesterday.
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Nice ladder  Can anyone confirm that he is the real Tester?
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I've suggested something like this in the first phase. It got bashed! (Too many divisions to post).
I have seen this division tho (Last I saw TTOne was #1 and IdrA was 34-7 or something like that... (my buddy Dlovan is in it, who's also pretty beasty!)
I'm pretty sure they're all real... I mean you don't see too many people with ~75% win rate after like ~20 games! lol
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If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick...
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On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick...
Ok Savior
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katari is ghostridah from war3 for those who rmb
diamond league seems to actually live up to its name now, which is awesome
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Hmmmmm.. How did they all end up in the same diamond league>? By chance?
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There's also alot of attax players down there too.
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Yeah I'm in this death division too. Another notable player in here is lalush :\ I can confirm most of them are the real players cause I've matched em (Probably all of them are legit, diamond is real hard now)
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
LOL.
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If those name are real, then they'll will get some kickass practice everytime they play ladder.
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On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick...
Probably the greatest piece of irony I've ever seen on TL.net really...
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I can verify almost all those people are the real ones. There is a couple I don't have on my /f l so I can't say 100% of them are.
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On July 12 2010 21:21 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior LOL.
seriously haha
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well, keep telling myself that claiming top place in my division is too easy, no i have a new goal!
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After talking to some of the euros i have played, most say they arent switching back to euro just to play another 50 games to start playing decent opponents again. It has seemed like strelok socke whitera etc in that div still are getting games in. Whether or not they are all who they say they are is yet to be seen.
And .. looking at some of the other diamond divs, none appear to be as stacked as this one, there are alot more known names in there than the ones listed in the OP
and if thats the real tester... well i believe it, i got crushed harder than i have been since beta opened playing against him
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Hmmm, won't there be a "Pro" division which results in Diamond league just being a place where you qualify to "Pro" division which will have all the big names in it?
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Sadly my division isn't as stacked... the no. 1 in my diamond division was stalife for a few days. I think some random terran players took the no. 1 spot (gee I wonder how a Terran pulled that off)
Just checked no. 1 today is a Zerg player named "Billy." I don't know anyone really in the top 10 in my div cept for stalife. Still the ratio of the top 12 is 5T/4P/3Z so my rant on T may continue!
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That division IS real; It was the 2nd division made in Diamond, so naturally all the first day gosus got put into that division. Keep in mind this was when the Asia/EU servers were down, so almost everyone who is at the top of this ladder, are not playing on US much anymore.
My division has Azz, and afew other good players. I'll take a SS maybe once i log on next
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On July 12 2010 21:21 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior LOL.
oh my god. loooooool that is amazing.
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I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
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On July 12 2010 20:42 aLt)nirvana wrote:
diamond league seems to actually live up to its name now, which is awesome
Like other people have said US came up first. That is why you see so many top names in the same division. Now if you look at the diamond divisions I fall into for 1v1, 2v2 and 3v3 you would notice a drastic falloff. ;/
I'm still surprised that I can make diamond league without having the multitasking abilities that some of these guys have.
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior made me lol ^^
good players know ladder dont mean shit so "piece of fame" for some ladder pts is hilarious
its better to smurf in ladder and then use real name when it actually matters
On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot its real lol why would anyone fake this? its so easy to look up
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
Its not, its real. Like I said, it was the 1st or 2nd diamond division created, so everyone who was top on the first 2 days, had a strong chance to go into this division.
I've been playing lots for the first 3 days of this patch also, and ive played Gerrard and Tester, I believe they were real cause they were insane, along with being #2 in platinum behind IdrA who was 20-0 at #1 before being moved into Diamond so im sure it is him too
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On July 12 2010 21:30 earky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 21:21 Nyx wrote:On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior LOL. seriously haha
unbelievable irony
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
It just got "jpegged out" that's all. I do agree it looks shopped since the blurs only occur on text.
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On July 12 2010 21:23 DemiSe wrote: If those name are real, then they'll will get some kickass practice everytime they play ladder.
Pretty sure your div has nothing to do with who you end up playing
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
No it's real. And almost all the people in it are the real deal. It's the only division I have seen this stacked since Division 2 back in like patch 6 or so.
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On July 12 2010 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Sadly my division isn't as stacked... the no. 1 in my diamond division was stalife for a few days. I think some random terran players took the no. 1 spot (gee I wonder how a Terran pulled that off)
Just checked no. 1 today is a Zerg player named "Billy." I don't know anyone really in the top 10 in my div cept for stalife. Still the ratio of the top 12 is 5T/4P/3Z so my rant on T may continue! I played Billy! I won despite repeatedly sacking my army by having my tanks no where near my fungal'd mmm ball. edit: Oh that's my div, I'm Lyra. Stalife was #1 for a long time, he was 430 at one point, guess he ran into a loss streak or something. Bubba is my friend, he'd be higher in the ladder if he 1v1'd more. He plays custom a lot vs root teammates, and 2v2s.
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
"Pixalation" is just artifacting that occurs around text when an image is compressed. In fact, it's a good way to find out if an image is genuine, compare artifacting for the whole image, it should all be the same!
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Wow, talk about a stacked division. :o
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I've browsed this division already and it's totally retarded, there are so many more pros then what OP listed... its insane
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On July 12 2010 22:09 Nightmarjoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Sadly my division isn't as stacked... the no. 1 in my diamond division was stalife for a few days. I think some random terran players took the no. 1 spot (gee I wonder how a Terran pulled that off)
Just checked no. 1 today is a Zerg player named "Billy." I don't know anyone really in the top 10 in my div cept for stalife. Still the ratio of the top 12 is 5T/4P/3Z so my rant on T may continue! I played Billy! I won despite repeatedly sacking my army by having my tanks no where near my fungal'd mmm ball. edit: Oh that's my div, I'm Lyra. Stalife was #1 for a long time, he was 430 at one point, guess he ran into a loss streak or something. Bubba is my friend, he'd be higher in the ladder if he 1v1'd more. He plays custom a lot vs root teammates, and 2v2s.
Haha yah we're in the same div. I'm CuDi .
I was top 5 for the first couple of days and then I hit a 0-7 streak and I couldn't play on Saturday so the mass gamers caught up to me
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
+1, that was better than coffee.
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I went 4-1 in placements and ended up in Silver. Standards seem to have shifted, lol.
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Is this screen cap from the start of Phase 2? It's kind of cool to see how much time some of the best players put in. Phase 2 has only been up and stable for about 3-4 days now and lots of the guys in that division have nearly 100 games played already.
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gerrard is real, he beat idra 2-1 zvz lol, its a fun div ;D
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guess it was the real WhiteRa that I played the other day. hmm.
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot
When I saw that a .png version was 2MB big, I decided to go with .jpg (which was 10 times smaller with the quality level I picked)
On July 12 2010 22:09 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot "Pixalation" is just artifacting that occurs around text when an image is compressed. In fact, it's a good way to find out if an image is genuine, compare artifacting for the whole image, it should all be the same!
This man is right, had I shopped the image, I would have made it and save it with a better quality to show off my 1337 shop skills...
On July 12 2010 22:57 Toque wrote: Is this screen cap from the start of Phase 2?
Well, it's the current ladder - so yes from the start of phase 2.
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On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot eh, joking right??
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
AHHHH HAHAHHAA this is going in my profile
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On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... hahaha not me!
If you are good enough for rank 1 Diamond, you might also be good enough that getting rank 1 Diamond doesn't mean anything to you!
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior Major pwnage xD
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On July 12 2010 18:53 WarChimp wrote:This is legit, my mate is in this division as well  Oh... your talking about the authenticity of the players being the "real" IdrA and such haha silly me 
There are a lot of fake IdrA's on the US server, including some really, really terrible ones, but that is most definitely the real one.
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Fake ?
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I'm more interested in their rankings in asian severs.
Why I haven't seen NonY playing in a long time? I miss him
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200 games hm. i don't know who the heck that is, but I assure you that isn't Draco or a TL member ;/
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On July 13 2010 00:12 StarStruck wrote: 200 games hm. i don't know who the heck that is, but I assure you that isn't Draco or a TL member ;/ Y'know, I'm gonna go ahead and say prooooooobably is a TL member.
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I'm in Argo Echo, this division is honestly retarded stacked... at least half the players in there are well-known to the community, with another 25 players well known to the well knowns... that makes a 75% stacked division with 25% randoms who could be potentially good... either way... ridiculous...
(and awesome b/c i'm in it)
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Not an actual team liquid member is what I implied. ._.
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On July 12 2010 21:57 Skyze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 21:49 Phrost wrote: I duno, looks pretty shooped to me. It's a very pixelated screenshot Its not, its real. Like I said, it was the 1st or 2nd diamond division created, so everyone who was top on the first 2 days, had a strong chance to go into this division. I've been playing lots for the first 3 days of this patch also, and ive played Gerrard and Tester, I believe they were real cause they were insane, along with being #2 in platinum behind IdrA who was 20-0 at #1 before being moved into Diamond so im sure it is him too
2nd... Lurker Sigma being the 1st
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I was just on bnet last night going through people's profiles, and I ACTUALLY stumbled upon this division. I was like "HOLY SHIT". I added a few of the players to my F-list so I can see their BO's. =p
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Time to ladder it up! lol.
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On July 12 2010 23:48 Lylat wrote:Fake ? ![[image loading]](http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/Kass87/Sanstitre-1.jpg)
i think so. probably not the real matt damon.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:i think so. probably not the real matt damon.
Bhaha nice. People people, stop calling out fake, if they are top 15 in Diamond and are above other known reals then I think we can assume they aren't fake.
This is what I expect the pro ladder to look like, tho with even less people and no randoms.
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To my knowledge Draco isn't a part of liquid?
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Not enough Terran at the very top. :[
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I heard rumors of people in diamond being "promoted" into that division, I think on maybe the vTgaming stream but I could be wrong.
Also, IdrA only has 190 achievement points?! Has he not been trying to Yamato 20 times in a ladder match or something?
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On July 13 2010 01:47 Numy wrote:To my knowledge Draco isn't a part of liquid? And really inactive too :p
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That division is scary. Too bad it's extremely rare for you to play people in your own division.
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On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:i think so. probably not the real matt damon. Rofl
i noticed this div after Capoch cheesed the piss out of me yesterday, its quite ridiculous
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On July 13 2010 02:04 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:On July 12 2010 23:48 Lylat wrote:Fake ? ![[image loading]](http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/Kass87/Sanstitre-1.jpg) i think so. probably not the real matt damon. Rofl i noticed this div after Capoch cheesed the piss out of me yesterday, its quite ridiculous
I never knew Matt Damon played StarCraft II...Neat!
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saw this , old news.
scroll down for more pros
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On July 13 2010 02:03 EliteAzn wrote: That division is scary. Too bad it's extremely rare for you to play people in your own division.
I'm med-platinum (was a baddie gold in phase #1 so I'm very happy with my progress) and I played people from my division multiple times...
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That's a hardcore division right there
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This has been good for 2 laughs. When blizz removed the numbers they put ambiguity into how many divisions there are, frankly i think divisions should be based in a exponential growth per division.
I mean when you're copper it's nice to only have to climb 30 people, but i think you should have to climb like 75 ppl in sliver 200 in gold then like 500-1000 in plat to be top.
Else the ambiguity in how many leagues there are in plat makes it less rewarding to a player such as one that would visit teamliquid and be platinum ranking.
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On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:i think so. probably not the real matt damon.
i loled in real life.
that is not the Draco, probably some faker.
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I played against that liquiddraco, he lifted off to gold asap on metal.
I don't know about players, but my diamond division is called infestor pepper. Try and beat that name.
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On July 13 2010 02:38 doss wrote: I played against that liquiddraco, he lifted off to gold asap on metal.
I don't know about players, but my diamond division is called infestor pepper. Try and beat that name. My old Gold division one was Observer Uncle. Just saying.
OT: Is there anyways to view other divisions without having somebody who is on your friends list in that division?
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3on3 ladder: araq dixie -> wtf
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Double post
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On July 12 2010 23:48 Lylat wrote:Fake ? ![[image loading]](http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/Kass87/Sanstitre-1.jpg)
Hey thats me TheEvilBob and no that division is not fake. LiquidDraco had like 200 games the second day of the beta.
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I dunno, I've noticed all the divisions I've looked at.
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Oh man, that division is scary! I'd love to see some replays between those players, WhiteRa and IdrA especially
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white-ra does have replays available on his webpage, I couldn't tell you how old the newest one was though.
White-Ra is my favorite SC2 player, but those showmanship matches between him and TLO a few days ago casted by Husky made me cry - he lost so many void-rays in very stupid ways. To his credit though, I have to believe the latency was insane playing from europe routing thru US servers. He even said he couldn't control his army at the very end.
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it is them, not smurfs..
guranteed
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Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul, They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase!
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On July 12 2010 22:52 gillon wrote: I went 4-1 in placements and ended up in Silver. Standards seem to have shifted, lol. Same happened to me. Won four and got dropped on the last one. But I skipped straight from silver to diamond (no stopping at gold and plat) within like 30 games.
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
Such win.
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Haha at above.
Pretty crazy divisions. How are you guys browsing the different divisions? Do you guys have "friends" added in each one or what? You think Blizzard will ever add a searchable or browserable ladder?
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That's an awesome league.
Too bad we'll probably see everyone migrate to the azn server, lag permitting.
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IdrA was in my platinum division for a little while. I think he was like 14-1 at the time. It could have been a smurf, who knows.
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On July 12 2010 21:21 Nyx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior LOL.
bwhaha
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crap, (or - wow), I'm in this division.
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On July 13 2010 05:31 Tenks wrote: IdrA was in my platinum division for a little while. I think he was like 14-1 at the time. It could have been a smurf, who knows.
Probably was, since I was (still am) in that same division. I had checked his match history, and he had a custom game against Artosis, so I figured it was legit. Also the same Ultralisk avatar and not a big difference in achievement points. I mean, he's playing to practice and get better, not to get arbitrary points.
I think he got moved extremely fast though.
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i have people like moonglade, bigt, and lzgamer in my ladder. i'll post a ss when i get closer to the top ;D lzgamer needs to pick it up also. he's 16-5, but ranked 27th..
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On July 12 2010 18:37 Sandrosuperstar wrote:but is it real? I believe it's top top diamond division.
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Would someone in this division mind taking another screenshot?
Or preferably writing down all the names and seeing if it changes within a few days significantly
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On July 13 2010 01:58 koppik wrote:Also, IdrA only has 190 achievement points?! Has he not been trying to Yamato 20 times in a ladder match or something?
IdrA is clearly an underachiever!
On July 13 2010 05:30 Sabu113 wrote: That's an awesome league.
Too bad we'll probably see everyone migrate to the azn server, lag permitting.
somebody mentioned (page 2 or 3) that most of the euros would stick to US for the rest of the beta as they don't feel like playing another 50 games to get decent opponents
On July 13 2010 05:29 wolfe wrote:Pretty crazy divisions. How are you guys browsing the different divisions? Do you guys have "friends" added in each one or what? You think Blizzard will ever add a searchable or browserable ladder?
You can't browse the ladder, Blizzard is doing a seriously good job at making its ladder sucks balls...and I don't see why they would change their mind on more than one issue per decade, sadly (or happily?) the real names on forums drama stole the 2010's ticket 
Also, I had a friend in that division.
On July 13 2010 06:11 Andtwo wrote:Would someone in this division mind taking another screenshot? Or preferably writing down all the names and seeing if it changes within a few days significantly 
don't need to be in the division, but I could do it I guess
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On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
hahahahahaha
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This league doesn't surprise me at all. Since people can't make it into diamond out of placement and players are entered in order of making it, my guess would be that the most devout and best players would make it into diamond first.
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On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:i think so. probably not the real matt damon. needs more love imo
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On July 13 2010 06:11 Andtwo wrote:Would someone in this division mind taking another screenshot? Or preferably writing down all the names and seeing if it changes within a few days significantly  Hasnt changed that much.. Huk is #1, idra #2 and whitera #3... me at 84 cause im slumping like crazy fuck fuck
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Somehow I doubt that these stacked divisions are coincidental. I think this is pretty concrete proof that not all diamond divisions are created equal. =)
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On July 13 2010 07:16 StormsInJuly wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 06:11 Andtwo wrote:Would someone in this division mind taking another screenshot? Or preferably writing down all the names and seeing if it changes within a few days significantly  Hasnt changed that much.. Huk is #1, idra #2 and whitera #3... me at 84 cause im slumping like crazy fuck fuck SS!
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On July 13 2010 07:38 Me0w wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 07:16 StormsInJuly wrote:On July 13 2010 06:11 Andtwo wrote:Would someone in this division mind taking another screenshot? Or preferably writing down all the names and seeing if it changes within a few days significantly  Hasnt changed that much.. Huk is #1, idra #2 and whitera #3... me at 84 cause im slumping like crazy fuck fuck SS!  fine!!!
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Hopefully this is the right place to post this, if not feel free to relocate it.
How I would improve the ladder system:
Besides the already discussed idea of making it so you can compare your self with people in other divisions I would also make it so that the ladders reset the same way iCCup resets with the start of a new season. Instead making players play placement matches players would start in the same level league they finished in perviously (i.e. finish in gold) start in gold next season. It would be great if you could look at another players (or your own) profile and look at how you did in other seasons, this could be used to show improvement. I would also implement a level above Diamond league, this league for the sake of this example will be called "Kings League" (KL). The only way to reach the KL would be by finishing the previous season in first, second or third place of a Diamond league, this league would be much smaller then the other leagues and would be only the top players across all servers. To keep this league small and to insure that it stay competitive at the end of each season the bottom players would be dropped back down to Diamond (clearly I don't have the stats to do the math but you can imagine that if 100 players moved up each season 100 bottom players would be moved back down.)
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On July 13 2010 08:35 Polygamy wrote: Hopefully this is the right place to post this, if not feel free to relocate it.
How I would improve the ladder system:
Besides the already discussed idea of making it so you can compare your self with people in other divisions I would also make it so that the ladders reset the same way iCCup resets with the start of a new season. Instead making players play placement matches players would start in the same level league they finished in perviously (i.e. finish in gold) start in gold next season. It would be great if you could look at another players (or your own) profile and look at how you did in other seasons, this could be used to show improvement. I would also implement a level above Diamond league, this league for the sake of this example will be called "Kings League" (KL). The only way to reach the KL would be by finishing the previous season in first, second or third place of a Diamond league, this league would be much smaller then the other leagues and would be only the top players across all servers. To keep this league small and to insure that it stay competitive at the end of each season the bottom players would be dropped back down to Diamond (clearly I don't have the stats to do the math but you can imagine that if 100 players moved up each season 100 bottom players would be moved back down.)
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release.
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On July 13 2010 09:13 Dionyseus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 08:35 Polygamy wrote: Hopefully this is the right place to post this, if not feel free to relocate it.
How I would improve the ladder system:
Besides the already discussed idea of making it so you can compare your self with people in other divisions I would also make it so that the ladders reset the same way iCCup resets with the start of a new season. Instead making players play placement matches players would start in the same level league they finished in perviously (i.e. finish in gold) start in gold next season. It would be great if you could look at another players (or your own) profile and look at how you did in other seasons, this could be used to show improvement. I would also implement a level above Diamond league, this league for the sake of this example will be called "Kings League" (KL). The only way to reach the KL would be by finishing the previous season in first, second or third place of a Diamond league, this league would be much smaller then the other leagues and would be only the top players across all servers. To keep this league small and to insure that it stay competitive at the end of each season the bottom players would be dropped back down to Diamond (clearly I don't have the stats to do the math but you can imagine that if 100 players moved up each season 100 bottom players would be moved back down.)
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release. I keep hearing about this but I'm yet to see a source of an actual blizzard employee saying this. Can someone provide any evidence or is everyone sort of just agreeing to the same rumour?
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On July 13 2010 10:55 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 09:13 Dionyseus wrote:
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release. I keep hearing about this but I'm yet to see a source of an actual blizzard employee saying this. Can someone provide any evidence or is everyone sort of just agreeing to the same rumour?
As far as I know it's just everybody agreeing with each other based on an old image:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/4/43/Leagues_SC2_Game1.jpg
Unfortunately it's now VERY old and incorrect as there is no mention of Diamond league etc. I have yet to find anything posted by Blizzard confirming an actual invite only Pro league for SC2. If there is such a thing, could someone point me towards it as I would love to read that also 
I remember a Blizzard post on their forums regarding a "league above platinum" which people assumed to be a Pro league, but it turned out just to be Diamond league.
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There is a league above diamond. Go play in some tournaments.
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They should really make the entire Diamond league a universal ladder. They're whole "feel good and special" division philosophy is clearly aimed at lower level players, and I'm pretty sure no one in diamond would object.
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My friend is in that division! Poor him... =P
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On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote: Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul, They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase!
actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
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Yeah I was watching a stream of someone named Trump, he too is in that division and showed the stream. I was very impressed that there is such an epic division.
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On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote: actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Do you guys play the games as straight up ladders with little chatter and mostly focused or is there a good deal of talking when facing other pros? It seems like those matches would be the most useful, but I imagine there is a reluctance to show your hand to potential competitors.
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On July 12 2010 22:52 gillon wrote: I went 4-1 in placements and ended up in Silver. Standards seem to have shifted, lol.
LOL same here, mate. And I just played a guy from Gold division who was 4-2 before losing to me.
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On July 13 2010 14:28 imPERSONater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote: actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Do you guys play the games as straight up ladders with little chatter and mostly focused or is there a good deal of talking when facing other pros? It seems like those matches would be the most useful, but I imagine there is a reluctance to show your hand to potential competitors.
i can only speak on my behalf but generally there is polite chat/cute mannerisms exchange and between certain people i get along with strategy talk/poking fun of
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On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote: Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul, They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it
Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division...
Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP
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LOL @improving the matchmaking system. The system is based on Elo or flick or whatever. There's nothing to improve unless they switch to trueskill which is owned by microsoft.
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On July 13 2010 14:59 HuK wrote: i can only speak on my behalf but generally there is polite chat/cute mannerisms exchange and between certain people i get along with strategy talk/poking fun of
Interesting, thanks for the response!
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On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha HAHahha! fail!
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On July 13 2010 10:55 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 09:13 Dionyseus wrote:On July 13 2010 08:35 Polygamy wrote: Hopefully this is the right place to post this, if not feel free to relocate it.
How I would improve the ladder system:
Besides the already discussed idea of making it so you can compare your self with people in other divisions I would also make it so that the ladders reset the same way iCCup resets with the start of a new season. Instead making players play placement matches players would start in the same level league they finished in perviously (i.e. finish in gold) start in gold next season. It would be great if you could look at another players (or your own) profile and look at how you did in other seasons, this could be used to show improvement. I would also implement a level above Diamond league, this league for the sake of this example will be called "Kings League" (KL). The only way to reach the KL would be by finishing the previous season in first, second or third place of a Diamond league, this league would be much smaller then the other leagues and would be only the top players across all servers. To keep this league small and to insure that it stay competitive at the end of each season the bottom players would be dropped back down to Diamond (clearly I don't have the stats to do the math but you can imagine that if 100 players moved up each season 100 bottom players would be moved back down.)
Blizzard has already said there's going to be a Pro league which is an invite only league. From what I remember, the league will be started a few months after release. I keep hearing about this but I'm yet to see a source of an actual blizzard employee saying this. Can someone provide any evidence or is everyone sort of just agreeing to the same rumour?
hm I'm surprised there are still people who don't know about it.
It's been announced since the beginning of the beta.
2 blue posts talking about it:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767190052&postId=237646723152&sid=3000#14
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766799717&postId=237646719218&sid=3000#0
and I'm sure you've seen this picture from the beginning of the beta:
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On July 13 2010 16:18 Darkn3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote: Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul, They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division... Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP
Everyone loses random games to random people, especially in practice. Even Flash lost to Nal_ra.
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On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha ROFLMAO seriously the irony.
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On July 14 2010 02:01 Bash wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 16:18 Darkn3ss wrote:On July 13 2010 14:18 HuK wrote:On July 13 2010 05:22 Darkn3ss wrote: Why everyone keeps being skeptical?
Would you like another screenshot of that division from this morning? I'm sure some numbers/positions have changed since the last one... lol
It's natural that all of the pros are in the same division... they all RAPED as soon as beta was released so they all placed diamond extremely fast. Then other players came and other diamond divisions formed... big deal!
@.Soul, They probably haven't laddered vs each other at all!!! You don't get to ladder vs your own division that often. I only laddered against someone in my division like once in last phase! actually we all play vs each other quite often if on at the same time since there aren't many others who have same range of "elo" or w/e u want to call it Honestly, I kind of imagined you guys playing each other since there aren't too many people that can cause IdrA or WhiteRa to lose 19 or 21 times respectively (based on the screen shot in the OP). I just thought that you wouldn't normally play people from same division... Oh, well... I guess they've been improving the match-making system while beta was down xP Everyone loses random games to random people, especially in practice. Even Flash lost to Nal_ra.
Well Nal_ra isn't exactly random people... lol if Flash lost to me then it would be a big deal...
On July 13 2010 16:27 darmousseh wrote: LOL @improving the matchmaking system. The system is based on Elo or flick or whatever. There's nothing to improve unless they switch to trueskill which is owned by microsoft.
Lol I meant to put "improving" in quotations! XP
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On July 14 2010 02:15 cocosoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 06:15 AncienTs wrote:On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior hahahahahaha ROFLMAO seriously the irony. lol thats so fking funny haha
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On July 12 2010 20:48 NuKedUFirst wrote: Hmmmmm.. How did they all end up in the same diamond league>? By chance?
Most likely it was one of the first Diamond league created. Considering these are the best players it and they all play alot it would not take them very long to get into diamond.
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imo, it should be much harder to stay in diamond division. I haven't heard of lots of ppl being demoted to platinum, but everyday there's so many players getting into diamond :/
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Doesn't Idra play primarily on the Asia servers? If so I doubt that's actually him.
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this was before asian servers came back up. So.... yes they are all real
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Those win-ratios are friggin beastly holy crap
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I'm in that division (I'm 11th in the first screenshot) and its definitely real. A few of the EU still play in that division. I played WhiteRa a bunch yesterday, but the korean presence definitely has dropped off excluding Idra.
Didn't realize ogs.ssks was Tester, I played him a bunch.
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On July 14 2010 04:44 Seraph.yongweihua wrote: Doesn't Idra play primarily on the Asia servers? If so I doubt that's actually him.
Do you really think someone with such win ratio would pose as someone else?! I'd make sure everyone knew my name if my stats looked like that...
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On July 12 2010 23:48 Lylat wrote:Fake ? ![[image loading]](http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/Kass87/Sanstitre-1.jpg)
I'm in this division. 
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On July 14 2010 04:42 stalife wrote: imo, it should be much harder to stay in diamond division. I haven't heard of lots of ppl being demoted to platinum, but everyday there's so many players getting into diamond :/
That's because you can't place into diamond.
So all the diamond players start at gold or plat. So of course there will be many diamond-level players getting into diamond league divisions.
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Yes that division is real, I have a screenshot of it from a few days ago when it was
in order: Idra, TTone, Katari, Huk, WhiteRa, Morrow, ogssks, strelok, and slush
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It's still possible to get to the #1 spot over idra, simply because you aren't always (or even usually in my experience) matched up against players in your division.
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Idra was probably only playing on the US server because the EU server and the Asia servers were down. When the Asia server came back up, he just stopped playing on the US.
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This:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 12 2010 20:40 calin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2010 20:38 OPSavioR wrote: If you are good enough to become rank 1 in Diamond you DONT fake nick , you use your own nick cause you want a piece of the fame , only noobs fake nick... Ok Savior
+ this:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 13 2010 01:35 uLysSeS1 wrote:i think so. probably not the real matt damon.
Are the best things in this thread. Lol..
I like the idea of a linked Diamond league, even if they implement the proleague they should still do this.
The current incarnation of the ladder is terrible, having X amount of cloned divisions that aren't linked is woeful. I know it makes it 'nicer' for new players to be bronze/silver as opposed to being Rank #117,845 but if they just link the diamond/plat/pro leagues then it's not a big deal for those players.
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another strange thing i encountered was that division names repeat quite quickly: i mean are there really only so few combinations? warfield rho, overlord kappa, thor iota i already saw twice each.
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