EPTKinda new at commentaries so feedback would be appreciated!
Starcraft 2 Replays Thread - Phase 2 - Page 17
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Agerian
Canada19 Posts
Kinda new at commentaries so feedback would be appreciated! | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On July 22 2010 04:18 HalfAmazing wrote: I don't know servyoa and I'm not sticking up for him. But the following has to be pointed out, for fairness. You are a genuinely awful ZvT player. If replays were still saved automatically, I could probably dig up at least 7 or 8 games I've played against you in phase 2, where you simply did everything wrong. Stuff like sending down 5 drones to the bottom of your ramp to stop the bunkers, wrong units, wrong transitions, very poor timing and sticking with too few bases for too long, trying to micro a tiny army to victory (war3 style noobism), etc. Your game sense for this matchup is completely off. Call people cheesy noobs all you want, but realize that you're not playing the matchup correctly at all. So what do you suggest me do against the bunker? Nothing? Let it finish? Thankfully, blizzard endowed drones with some of the greatest AI ever seen in any RTS game. A drone will stop attacking an SCV that changes position while building a building, it will simply bump into a corner of the bunker and lose its attack command. Even if I bring out 7 drones there's no guarantee the SCV doesn't submerge itself under the bunker, going into invulnerability mode for 10-15 seconds while 7 dumb ass drones stare at it going "Ughhh, work, work, WTF?", doing absolutely nothing. Surrounding marines with drones? Lol my drones are on ice skates they just glide past them in all directions. Then after you've wasted 5 drones and countless lings stopping the rush, your opponent salvages the bunker in 5 seconds and laughs at you, LOL, love it! According to your description, it sounds like I've pretty much tried everything. With nothing working. I don't deny I completely and utterly suck at ZvT, thus the constant whine about the matchup. But cheesing with your race should really be tied with more risk than it currently is. Also, Jinro doesn't cheese, he likes to be elegant, only reason I play ok vs him. Wouldn't have stood a chance otherwise. I think it takes a certain type of mind to be good at ZvT. The real solid defense oriented, not letting anything or anyone budge me or my game plan, sort of player. These guys are like walls, completely unphased by their opponents. You throw something at them, it bounces back. There are very few of these players. Most prominent ones in BW being jaedong and flash. But once they emerge they dominate everything, dismantling cheesers easily by scaring them to death. Real frustrating playing a WALL. I'll never be one of those players. Only one I've seen in SC2 remotely capable of living up to being a WALL is Sen. Perhaps TvZ is balanced. But just like at the start of the beta, when zergs easily dominated terrans (because initially the basics of terran were much harder to learn), the full extent of zerg knowledge is yet to be learned. A great wall has yet to emerge, with the countless wall-emulators to follow. Meanwhile, it's very frustrating. Because your race seems so ezzz. You score ezz wins, while zergs play without any direction and do stupid shit like me. | ||
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Mr_LOL
Israel21 Posts
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Stickyrolls
14 Posts
On July 22 2010 12:00 Agerian wrote: Did a commentary with White-Ra vs Cloud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvw1lgLHu7c Kinda new at commentaries so feedback would be appreciated! Not bad for your first attempt. First thing I noticed was to much favoritism towards white-ra and toss in general. It's ok to have a favorite race as a commentator but it shouldn't be shown so much. About 80 perc of your camera time was on toss. Just a small thing, turn unit health bars on...people like to see health of units, especially when he did the HT drop is when I noticed. Other than that just throw in some flavor: "very poor use of siege tanks not leap-frogging them up the field." | ||
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reddog1999
United States143 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Due to playing these games on the weekend it was our duty to have a good time, some small talk about intoxication if that bothers you sorry only had a hand full of reps to pick from due to deletion/patchs, but if you do enjoy the finer things in life as well, you will get a kick out of Tanks and Thors with 40+ kills http://www.mediafire.com/file/q3aw2f796cq2rce/infestor vs biomech.SC2Replay http://www.mediafire.com/file/dhbl50i6sbfcpp1/LT long game.SC2Replay http://www.mediafire.com/file/477gk7h7fatqhhf/LT.SC2Replay http://www.mediafire.com/file/gd4lbwtmi5xda5y/tvz Desert O .SC2Replay http://www.mediafire.com/file/d5c6cn4d9eei924/TvZ If you like thors and tanks with 40+ kills pretty ownage.SC2Replay http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ll77dckeocilcs/Zvt Ghosts.SC2Replay enjoy | ||
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Gomas
Poland311 Posts
Lalush, imagine the terran expanded before rax, and u did a 10 pool. U win. Is it a cheese? No. 9 rax is no where near a cheese. It is a solid ECONOMICAL opening, which relies on the fast OC. It is not the MOST economical in the long run, but everything has its trade offs. Its not like, as it is with cheese, that if you scout it, you win. A 9 rax is a smart opening aiming to punish you for your cheesy and risky fast expand. The bunker is a response to your late pool. A 9 rax is not risky, it works versus everything relatively well. Its something like you doing a 30pool and crying because u got destroyed by 12 rax. You're taking a risk with such an early expo, which could pay off in the future, and servant simply punishes u for it. You're actually cheesing, as if he scouts you and does a 9 rax you have a hard time defending, while his opening is solid against everything. Good play by him imo. | ||
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TrzystaDrzew
Poland72 Posts
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dkanoji
7 Posts
On July 22 2010 20:09 TrzystaDrzew wrote: I know I am repeating my self but how can I watch in my Chinese launcher watch replays version 0.21.0.16094. You guys are talking about replays that I can't get to watch. Any help would be welcome. Once you have the latest version of the launcher it should play everything post .19. Also for those wanting a harder AI to play against, since SC Manager only allows BaseAI, I suggest trying SC2allin1. The latest version doesnt support Green Tea AI, but will in the next version. In the meantime you can try playing against Very Hard or Insane AI with it. You can also watch replays if you're having troubles with SC Manager. Oh, and it's in english. Plus. http://sc2.nibbits.com/assets/starcrack-allin1/ | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On July 22 2010 19:40 Gomas wrote: Sorry for the little bit of offtopic but I couldn't help myself. As for the lalush/servant argument. Lalush, imagine the terran expanded before rax, and u did a 10 pool. U win. Is it a cheese? No. 9 rax is no where near a cheese. It is a solid ECONOMICAL opening, which relies on the fast OC. It is not the MOST economical in the long run, but everything has its trade offs. Its not like, as it is with cheese, that if you scout it, you win. A 9 rax is a smart opening aiming to punish you for your cheesy and risky fast expand. The bunker is a response to your late pool. A 9 rax is not risky, it works versus everything relatively well. Its something like you doing a 30pool and crying because u got destroyed by 12 rax. You're taking a risk with such an early expo, which could pay off in the future, and servant simply punishes u for it. You're actually cheesing, as if he scouts you and does a 9 rax you have a hard time defending, while his opening is solid against everything. Good play by him imo. There's no other option than fast expanding as zerg. Sure I could 14 pool to be safe (and I often do), but to be honest, even 14 pool doesn't stop servyoas bunker rush where he blocks your entrance. Either way you need an expansion as zerg because terran are twice as cost efficient. Only way to stop servyoas bunker rush is anticipating it and bringing out drones to block "just in case" (unless you 10pool, but that's not very likely is it...). I'm not saying 9 or 10 rax shouldn't be able to kill me off. But as it is now bunker rushing in SC2 is tied to too little risk in my opinion. Even if I defend it succesfully, it really doesn't give me any advantage, nor any chance to counterattack. I've still no clue about the followup. Super fast banshees while he kept me busy? Hellions coming soon or is the terran FEing? Marine tank all-in? Sure, i'll put down the roach warren just in case. Then I'll make a couple of roaches to be safe. Then Lair. In the meanwhile my drone production sucks because I don't have any minerals because I need to account for all 1001 ways in which a terran can scew me over. In the end it feels like I'm just better off guessing. Skipping roaches in favor of drones. Or skipping roaches in favor of fast lair. And that's why you see me get all these pathetic losses in ZvT. Because I'm forced to guess -- or else I lose anyway. In my opinion they should remove salvage from the bunker. Terrans don't use bunkers in the original context Blizzard intended with salvage. Meaning massing them in mid and lategame pushes. They just use them for riskfree superboosted rushes. Plus 10 pool doesn't translate to 9rax, because it is in no way a solid economical build. It's giving the terran a free win. What the hell are you going to do with 6 slow lings anyway? Defend an expansion? 6 lings are worth shit against 1 reaper. They're worth shit once the first hellion pops. Now what have you achieved? You've stopped the bunker rush, you've managed to delay dying to slightly later (because of crappy economy). Great. Cheesing with terran doesn't include any of this. They got a decent economy from the OC (free SCVs), making their cheese stronger because they can spend the minerals on units rather than workers (remember zerg have to spend 150mins on queen too, but then another 150-200 minerals on drones for the equivalent of the MULE mining rate). Terran are just designed for cheese and 1base play in every imaginable way. The unit diversity, the macro mechanics, the risk free bunker building. In ZvT you usually end up with a zerg on 2 bases, who is matched in economy by a terran on 1 base well until the terran gets up his own expansion. Meanwhile he's constantly been harassing the crap out of you. Takes a wall type of personality to stop that, and to be good at the matchup... | ||
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TrzystaDrzew
Poland72 Posts
I have 0.20.016036 beta client version and it seems to be a problem. Is there any way to patch your beta while bn is offline? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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burgback
United States8 Posts
Please let me know what you think, thanks! | ||
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Arby3k
Canada90 Posts
Latest games from thescchronicles | ||
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Garson
Sweden203 Posts
(maybe TL admins should make a youtube commentery thread aswell <3) | ||
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
I had an epic game I wanted to re-watch but as I was looking through my replays I couldn't find it. I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I couldn't find anything anywhere about replays not autosaving for some reason. In Phase 1 I had a full list of games all listed like Metalopolis(1-9) and so on but this time I noticed numbers were missing for some reason. I lost some of my favorite games and I wondered if this was just me or if anyone else had the same problem. Plz lemme know. | ||
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Arby3k
Canada90 Posts
On July 23 2010 08:15 Garson wrote: can't all people who link their youtube commenterys on starcraft 2 games also provide a replay aswell? Don't take this as any hate on all of you who does link your awesome commentating but this is a "Replay thread" if im right and I kinda want the replays for movie editing if im finding something nice. (maybe TL admins should make a youtube commentery thread aswell <3) I think thats a good idea. Gonna try and do that now  | ||
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Nexic
United States729 Posts
On July 23 2010 10:34 groms wrote: Search, widely known issue in phase 2Has anyone lost any replays? I had an epic game I wanted to re-watch but as I was looking through my replays I couldn't find it. I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I couldn't find anything anywhere about replays not autosaving for some reason. In Phase 1 I had a full list of games all listed like Metalopolis(1-9) and so on but this time I noticed numbers were missing for some reason. I lost some of my favorite games and I wondered if this was just me or if anyone else had the same problem. Plz lemme know. | ||
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doss
Canada137 Posts
Catch the link >>here<< Thanks, hope I can provide some time to kill. | ||
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biz87
Germany95 Posts
i played in platin as zerg it was on one of the last days of the beta. if you are bored waiting for sc2 to come out take a look.  http://www.file-upload.net/download-2693702/Guffel-vs-shnae.SC2Replay.html strange ZvZ replay any comments recommended feel free to pm  | ||
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
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