• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:47
CEST 09:47
KST 16:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon84Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?174Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
[D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6233 users

Void Rays - Totally awesome tricks. - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 27 Next All
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
July 05 2010 21:33 GMT
#201
On July 06 2010 06:08 Lucius2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 05:51 Puremiss wrote:
i bet all the toss players are like "leave it blizz, its cool ppl will find a way to deal w/ it eventually... thats part of the game guys comon."

and all the T's and Z's are like "holy shit... all my workers shift queued to death in 10 seconds how is that fair? and toss got obs so they can prepare the queue beforehand and just watch the destruction T.T fix pleaseeeeee"

im in the T/Z camp



when u let someone get 8 voids to oneshot your wokers, its your own fault when u couldnt finish him so far. and ye just spend 200 more gas on getting an obs... sure

i never read more bs srsly, what about this:

OMG HE DROPPED 4 TEMPLAR IN MY MINERAL LINE AND ALL WORKERS DEAD IN 3 SECS!111111111111 EVEN BETTER THAN 8 VOIDS


No, what's "more bs srsly" are the people who say things like "it's your own fault when you couldn't finish him so far." Awful... awful...
Chalaza
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada46 Posts
July 05 2010 21:35 GMT
#202
the first trick would only be useful for small amounts of units because it doesnt charge
"I am honored to receive Idra's rage" - Masq
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
July 05 2010 21:38 GMT
#203
This is so awesome, please don't take it out. Nerf the Voidrays if you have to, but let at least some units be as effective as the user can make them.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 05 2010 21:42 GMT
#204
oh my god this is amazing
queue up the VR and kill everythinggg :D
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
July 05 2010 21:50 GMT
#205
OMG this is HUGE :D I am definitly gonna abuse this trick while it lasts lol =0, it pays off to just save up a few more voidrays before attacking, it will be a practically unstoppable force at a certain amount, I mean even anti air cannot beat a dps output like that. first charge it on the refinery and then just blast away :D:D
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Caracca
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands2 Posts
July 05 2010 21:51 GMT
#206
will the same mechanic be usable for sentry's would be the next question , since they also use an insta beam weapon.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 05 2010 21:58 GMT
#207
On July 06 2010 06:51 Caracca wrote:
will the same mechanic be usable for sentry's would be the next question , since they also use an insta beam weapon.

nope sentries animation is a beam but they actually attack in bursts like a regular unit. i tested this as soon as i saw it with voids (because sentries would be more OP like this)
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 05 2010 21:59 GMT
#208
On July 06 2010 06:15 EliteAzn wrote:
The issue isn't void rays killing off workers quickly, it's void rays killing off units that are supposed to do well it against them quickly.

Just by watching the first video, 2 hydras aren't supposed to go down that quickly against 2 void rays....thus this ability/exploit pretty much make void ray rushes/proxy void rays almost unstoppable.

*Edit: "Unstoppable" was a poor choice in wording...but hopefully you get the point....However the micro'ing will be tedius for the toss player.


That first sentence bothers me. The "hard counter" system has been criticized a ton and little micro tricks like this can aid in making units more versatile.

How are void ray rushes that much stronger then before? In what scenario would this be over powered?
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
July 05 2010 22:02 GMT
#209
On July 06 2010 06:59 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 06:15 EliteAzn wrote:
The issue isn't void rays killing off workers quickly, it's void rays killing off units that are supposed to do well it against them quickly.

Just by watching the first video, 2 hydras aren't supposed to go down that quickly against 2 void rays....thus this ability/exploit pretty much make void ray rushes/proxy void rays almost unstoppable.

*Edit: "Unstoppable" was a poor choice in wording...but hopefully you get the point....However the micro'ing will be tedius for the toss player.


That first sentence bothers me. The "hard counter" system has been criticized a ton and little micro tricks like this can aid in making units more versatile.

How are void ray rushes that much stronger then before? In what scenario would this be over powered?


Erm... because this trick seems like it'd be stronger against smaller number of units? If you have 2 voidrays facing 3 hydras, you can take them down quicker, etc.
InTriX
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
July 05 2010 22:03 GMT
#210
Concidering Void Rays attack while moving, can you use the 'stop' or 'hold' command to stop them from attacking. Doing this would cause them to auto re-target an enemy infront of them, asuming they have 0 cooldown Everysingle time you press S then you deal another tick of dmg. Asuming u can (and you can) hold S to stop every 0.1 or what ever seconds, depending on retype rate. Void rays could get 10 ticks of dmg every second (granted you couldn't target what you wanted) but multiplying your dps by 10 = ggs...
Life is Not worth Dying for.
Caracca
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands2 Posts
July 05 2010 22:03 GMT
#211
On July 06 2010 06:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 06:51 Caracca wrote:
will the same mechanic be usable for sentry's would be the next question , since they also use an insta beam weapon.

nope sentries animation is a beam but they actually attack in bursts like a regular unit. i tested this as soon as i saw it with voids (because sentries would be more OP like this)



damn shame
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 05 2010 22:05 GMT
#212
On July 06 2010 07:03 InTriX wrote:
Concidering Void Rays attack while moving, can you use the 'stop' or 'hold' command to stop them from attacking. Doing this would cause them to auto re-target an enemy infront of them, asuming they have 0 cooldown Everysingle time you press S then you deal another tick of dmg. Asuming u can (and you can) hold S to stop every 0.1 or what ever seconds, depending on retype rate. Void rays could get 10 ticks of dmg every second (granted you couldn't target what you wanted) but multiplying your dps by 10 = ggs...

On July 05 2010 19:52 youngminii wrote:
The damage done by this trick does not scale with the speed of your clicking.

What's actually happening is that the attack is being 'split' into two, targetting the two hydras. The problem is, when it's 'split' the damage itself isn't being split so it deals full damage to the two hydras. But it only attacks them both once per 0.6 seconds (the cooldown).

So while it still does twice the amount of damage it should be doing, it most certainly does not scale with click speed. That's why all three hydras die at the same time in the video.

As I said, you can't hit the same target more than once per tick (0.6s).

Still, this trick has the potential to be quite OP.
lalala
InTriX
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
July 05 2010 22:08 GMT
#213
Just tryed somthing and when the void rays are charged you cannot use this trick. The dmg seems to be applied at the end rather than beginning.
Life is Not worth Dying for.
Calamity
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada161 Posts
July 05 2010 22:09 GMT
#214
On July 06 2010 07:03 InTriX wrote:
Concidering Void Rays attack while moving, can you use the 'stop' or 'hold' command to stop them from attacking. Doing this would cause them to auto re-target an enemy infront of them, asuming they have 0 cooldown Everysingle time you press S then you deal another tick of dmg. Asuming u can (and you can) hold S to stop every 0.1 or what ever seconds, depending on retype rate. Void rays could get 10 ticks of dmg every second (granted you couldn't target what you wanted) but multiplying your dps by 10 = ggs...


Have you tested this? If this is true, then this would do more DPS to any unit, than a fully charged beam to only and ARMORED unit.

Fazing using the re-targeting thing that InTriX suggested:
5 * 0.1 = 50 DPS

Against Armored units:
Stage 3: 25(+3) dmg / 0.6sec = 41.67 dps (+5.00 per upgrade)
*Taken from liquipedia*

Doubt the holding s button works but if it does, it's OP for sure.
Betaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
theDragoon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada307 Posts
July 05 2010 22:09 GMT
#215
Same thing can be done with sentry right? I heard something about sentry micro not too long ago, I haven't seen it but it works pretty much the same way, you attack then click the ground then attack again to do more damage than just right clicking.

The first trick kinda blew me away, you killed those hydras so fast, I can see this being really hard to defend for an unprepared zerg. The second one i've already been doing if i have a chance to get a ton of void rays. It's harder in a real game because the probes are always moving.
InTriX
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 22:14:58
July 05 2010 22:11 GMT
#216
I tested it but stop dosn't actually stop the unit from attacking. Someone already said it didn't work with sentries. Sentries have a cooldown of around half a second when attacking.

Void rays can be made to attack the same unit multiple times faster than normal however u have to turn it like 45 degrees so that it stops attacking the desired unit. However this might not be true as it takes like half a second to turn (my bad micro) so its same speed as normaly attacking a unit.
Life is Not worth Dying for.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 05 2010 22:15 GMT
#217
Concidering Void Rays attack while moving, can you use the 'stop' or 'hold' command to stop them from attacking. Doing this would cause them to auto re-target an enemy infront of them, asuming they have 0 cooldown Everysingle time you press S then you deal another tick of dmg. Asuming u can (and you can) hold S to stop every 0.1 or what ever seconds, depending on retype rate. Void rays could get 10 ticks of dmg every second (granted you couldn't target what you wanted) but multiplying your dps by 10 = ggs...

sorry to disappoiont but pressing stop or hold position for the void ray only affects its movment. It has an auto-attack so that the only way to "Faze" is to change targets rapidly.

As some of you may know, the sentery has the same type of attack, but it is not as useful because it is not an air unit. All you have to do with the sentery is attack/Stop/Attack/Stop fast and it will also do more DPS. I would post a vid if i could to help demonstrate.

on another note, this should be changed from fazing to "TheKinging" haha
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
InTriX
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 22:19:19
July 05 2010 22:17 GMT
#218
Are you sure it works with sentries because they seem to stop attacking then wait half a second before attacking again.

I just tried it again with sentries, dosn't work.
Life is Not worth Dying for.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 05 2010 22:22 GMT
#219
On July 06 2010 07:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 06:59 kNyTTyM wrote:
On July 06 2010 06:15 EliteAzn wrote:
The issue isn't void rays killing off workers quickly, it's void rays killing off units that are supposed to do well it against them quickly.

Just by watching the first video, 2 hydras aren't supposed to go down that quickly against 2 void rays....thus this ability/exploit pretty much make void ray rushes/proxy void rays almost unstoppable.

*Edit: "Unstoppable" was a poor choice in wording...but hopefully you get the point....However the micro'ing will be tedius for the toss player.


That first sentence bothers me. The "hard counter" system has been criticized a ton and little micro tricks like this can aid in making units more versatile.

How are void ray rushes that much stronger then before? In what scenario would this be over powered?


Erm... because this trick seems like it'd be stronger against smaller number of units? If you have 2 voidrays facing 3 hydras, you can take them down quicker, etc.


3 hydralisk + 2 queens. If you lost queens beforehand you are most likely going to be way behind in the transition. Also the voids will be heavily damaged.
Now try 3 hydra + 2queen vs 2 voids. Does the fazing do much?
InTriX
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom149 Posts
July 05 2010 22:24 GMT
#220
Remember even if someone is using this to hit 2/3 units at a time rather than one. He is literaly doing NOTHING at all else, you can't macro at the same time unless u take breaks in it.
Life is Not worth Dying for.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 153
ProTech150
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1057
BeSt 619
Soma 109
Killer 100
Bale 51
Aegong 37
sorry 8
League of Legends
JimRising 564
Other Games
summit1g15991
ceh9630
Happy284
singsing148
Mew2King33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1114
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH351
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2452
League of Legends
• Stunt397
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
2h 14m
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
3h 14m
Monday Night Weeklies
8h 14m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 2h
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
1d 3h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
6 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.