EPTAPM Guilty Pleasure..
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Capteone
United States197 Posts
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e.soul[gm]
Sierra Leone254 Posts
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
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Mentos
United Kingdom203 Posts
trust me it wont matter how much apm shows up in the replay when you lose due to lack of proper multitask or control, cause you're busy cycling through hotkeys without a clue. | ||
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
So you're watching somebodies steam, the game is loading and he's talking about the map, then he gets into the game and spams like so crazy stops talking, putting all his concentration into spamming. (I'm talking about the boxing workers spam) But yeah, I do this: 1234 hotkey spam. right click x10000000 to move a unit 2 inches on the screen I feel like it gets my middle finger on my right hand and my hotkey fingers warmed up. | ||
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SageFantasma
United States383 Posts
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
On July 04 2010 23:49 e.soul[gm] wrote: 1234 hotkey spam. right click x10000000 to move a unit 2 inches on the screen In WC3 I spam 467 to switch between rax/main/altar, and I do the same in SC2 (and Brood War) spamming 236 for depot(yes I hotkey my depot)/scout scv/main :D | ||
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
2-Building scv 3-W/e 4-rax 5-OC While boxing random stuff, usually my workers. | ||
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ThreeSixDrew
Canada183 Posts
If i'm only spamming at 50 APM in the first few minutes, I find that my APM later in the game is not as substantial as it needs to be. Perhaps 80-99ish. I'm a zerg player so my early useless spam basically involves cycling through hotkeyed hatch, scouting drone, scouting overlord. 1/2/6 respectively. | ||
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HuHEN
United Kingdom514 Posts
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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
i also sometimes individually select every mineral patch in between spamming. during the game if i have nothing in particular to do i usually 1-2-3/1-2/3 etc or 4-5-6-7-8-9-0 selecting buildings to see which are close to finishing a cycle etc etc. | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
2 - hatch 3 - hatch 4 - hatch I constatnly spam 1234, box select workers (a lot of time), click up and down the minerals, go to overlord spam spam spam, back to base and repeat that all the time | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:22 Liquid`TLO wrote: I click through all of my starting scvs + cc as fast as I can. Actually that's a nice thing, i'll copy this since i do need to improve my mouse precision. Doing this feels much better than mineral swapping since you have to hit units that moves | ||
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
On July 04 2010 23:51 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote: BOX select all workers as fast as i can early on and do it over and over again until i get a unit out. This is the only spam I do, and this happens only in the beginning of the game, where I don't have 2 hatches up. Once that 2nd one is up, i'll be occupied enough to keep my apm up... There is no point for constant spam in mid-late game...however, spamming does somehow manage to somewhat warm you up a little.....just a little. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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Rigel of Cyrosea
Canada66 Posts
When I was getting into BW I had around 120 apm. I spent a week where I forced myself to play at 200 apm through the whole game. Obviously this resulted in a lot of spam, and I played terribly for that week. But afterwards, when I let myself go back to normal, I found I was averaging at 150-160 apm naturally, without spamming. Pretty big increase for one week of practice. | ||
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
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shammythefox
United Kingdom286 Posts
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Batch
Sweden692 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
i just hit 123 or something usually, or actually move my probes to minerals (1900 plat before reset) | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
3,4,5 hatches. as i spam through my hatches i always check available drones and the inject larvae and tech bars and reposition rally points... so that hardly feels like wasted apm. double tap 2 to check my scouting ovie and repeat! | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
1 being my scout 4 being main box spamming workers obv past early game i dont spam cuz im actually trying to play | ||
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tfmdjeff
United States170 Posts
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Yuka
United States133 Posts
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Pebble
Germany326 Posts
2 scouting drone 4 hatch And I try to bend my fingers to stretch them a little while spamming buttons 1,2+4. And I also like to click on the minerals as fast as I can to practice a little on my accuracy. | ||
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farseer_dk
Canada71 Posts
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
On July 05 2010 01:08 farseer_dk wrote: I do not do this... at all... is that bad? no...it's just a preference. You should already know, APM does not equal skill Personally, i believe it's a trend...but all trends have their outliers. | ||
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
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Gedrah
465 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
I try to smoke between 7 and 8 or 8 and 9, or after paying for 10 if I'm zerg. I tried the same during a 6 pool.... worked out great ^^ | ||
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SantaClaws
Denmark11 Posts
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:28 green.at wrote: i often waste apm on drinking water and sometimes miss to build the 2nd worker :D come on man you gotta time that shit... | ||
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micropede3
United States5 Posts
well, sir, I like to pretend that my mouse and keyboard are your mom, and I have to touch them as much as possible. does that answer your fucking question? | ||
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n3mo
United States298 Posts
although in game, i cycle between 1 2 5 (scout, CC, rax) in the early game. | ||
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Click hatch, press S D, select workers sent to one patch. Send overlord away hotkey to 1 and 0. Select hatchery hotkey it to 4 and 5 and set rally points. Spam for drones and give each egg a seperate rally point. When you get 9 supply send the 9th drone to scout, hotkey as 3. Make ovie and rally it somewhere ( you can rally eggs and even hotkey them before they hatch ) and hotkey it as 0 ( 0 is my overlord hotkey ). 345 spam and double tapping 3 or 5 to switch views from scouting drone to hatchery. Keeping a close look on the minimap and minerals/supply. Yes, I do spam. It keeps my thinking caps on and makes me play faster. Whereas without spamming in the early game I notably get worse at making quick decisions. When I play protoss or terran I get bored in the early game because there isn't enough to do >.> . Just send your scv/probe to mine and hotkey command center/nexus. | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
In SC2 i spam Y + Click on the vacant minerals 1 by 1. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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Noghori
United States17 Posts
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EatCrow
Estonia333 Posts
It's funny to see some replays where an opponent has 300 APM in the beginning and ends with 50 | ||
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Baloop
United States127 Posts
1 Being Hatchery S Being Select Larvae D for Make drone. 0 hotkey for my scouting overlord (which usually later becomes my detector for the same hotkey) 1sd just over and over and over and over and over throughout the whole game, lol. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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mikehall683
United States159 Posts
my apm spam usually looks like this in the beginning: 145(box select)145(box select)145eeeeeeeeee11,55,145(box select) i don't spam much later in the game except for right-clicks | ||
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TDC
United States197 Posts
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Mulloy
United States86 Posts
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
so now i just do whatever i can to keep my apm up =\ | ||
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
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metasonic
United States115 Posts
I used to not be able to do it all the time, but by the end of the beta I could always get 3 - 4 funny quotes in. Clearly my skill is improving :D | ||
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Chizambers
United States126 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:47 Batch wrote: Wouldn't it be more prestigious to be able to win matches with as low APM as possible? I personally would be more impressed by a person with 20 APM beating a recognized good player as opposed if someone with with 200 APM would do the same. I agree with you there, but I think 20 APM would be too low to keep up on everything. I would love to watch a replay where a good player with really high APM just gets beat by someone with a really low APM. I know when beta went down my APM at the end of most games was right around 30, as a gold level player. I didn't spam anything at all. I think now, after working with the BO Testers, and AI's, my APM is probably around 40. I think it's possible to do everything needed in the game with an APM of about 60 without any spamming. My take on APM is similar to how Day[9] described it.. that APM, at least at low levels is how much stuff you are remembering to do. Build Wokers Chrono/Spawn Larvae/Mule/Scan Build Units Build Buildings Scout Micro units I think you can keep up on all those things with about 60 APM. Not saying there is anything wrong with a little spamming to get your fingers warmed up, or to get psyched up for the match. But I think it would be really cool to just see someone with a very efficient APM, who can keep up on everything without mega spam APM. | ||
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Baksteen
Netherlands438 Posts
On July 05 2010 02:42 XXXSmOke wrote: Theres a reason the Koreans spam keys there not doing it for their APM. Good players do tons of early apm as a warm up and to keep the intensity going and to transition into the end game. Its actully quite horrendus to watch some of my friends play in the early game. Theyll build a worker, look at a txt message and keep drinking their beer. Then at a random time they decide oh hey its time to get micro goin and they just never can matcht he same precision, control, and agility that I have. Which is funny at the same time because they make fun of me for my early game spamming. But then you compare leagues and win rates and yea you get the picture. It also improves focus alot next to the APM part. It's easier starting high and ennding high then to start low and end high. I always spam the hotkey for my cc and after that play around with my scv's like boxing around them etc. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:22 Liquid`TLO wrote: I click through all of my starting scvs + cc as fast as I can. This. I have my CC hotkeyed as 1, then I go up and down my mineral line clicking an SCV, 1, next SCV, 1, next SCV, 1, etc and repeat. Helps warm up APM plus it's just practice for my accuracy. It's harder than you might think to not misclick when you do it really fast. | ||
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RanDoMSCPlaya
United States14 Posts
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gdroxor
United States639 Posts
1, 5, box. 1, 5, box. | ||
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Dakata
Poland67 Posts
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peffi
Germany44 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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perfectflaw72
Canada94 Posts
you box your drones and press your hot keys and click on the hatch too gets your apm to 500 | ||
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threehundred
Canada911 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
1. Main army 2. Production Buildings 3. Secondary Army 4. Primary Buildings (nexus/cc/hatch) and all upgrade buildings 5. More army 6. More army 7-0. - Observers So I usually hotkey a probe to 1 at the start and nexus on 4 and spam 1,4,1,4 until I get my other buildings up. Since I played a lot of WC3 another method I use to pad APM to keep myself busy at the start of the game is to simply spam right-click to set rally points, as in WC3 spamming hero altar rally point was a common APM padding tactic. I guess old habits die hard. Personally I only do this because while my buildings get up aside from probe scouting there isn't anything for P to be doing, so I'm essentially bored. Of course doing this on a regular basis does help you get your hands used to moving at that speed, meaning that when it comes to actually needing micro you can respond quickly and more easily. Also I type about 100 word per minute so my hands were already fast to begin with before I started playing any RTS (with the exception of BW - that game taught me how to type ).Edit: Note as the game goes longer I'll probably end up dumping all my building into a single hotkey to have more room for army hot keys. (I basically like to hot key by unit role, (i.e. all casters on one hotkey, all melee on another, all anti-armor on another, and so on)) I'm not entirely sure why I have a predisposition for organizing my army like this but it seems to work for me, besides I quite often simply click on single units and control them individually. | ||
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Easy772
374 Posts
On July 04 2010 23:52 Mentos wrote: if you spam anything past early game intentionally just to keep your apm up, you're gimping yourself. trust me it wont matter how much apm shows up in the replay when you lose due to lack of proper multitask or control, cause you're busy cycling through hotkeys without a clue. I agree with this.. I had a friend who I played HON with that when he found out about APM he started spamming right click and other functions to get it up. What I noticed is that the more important aspects of his game like last hitting, calling 'missing', map awareness went down. | ||
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Corwintt
Bulgaria85 Posts
But I actually think spamming can be pretty useful. It warms your fingers and sets your mind for the game. Also as Day9 had noted, spamming your controls with gates/robos/stargates quickly gives you idea when a building is idle. | ||
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gdroxor
United States639 Posts
On July 05 2010 06:50 Corwintt wrote: I select all probes to different controls and spam 1,2,3,4,5. Also at early game when moving spam right clicking million times. But I actually think spamming can be pretty useful. It warms your fingers and sets your mind for the game. Also as Day9 had noted, spamming your controls with gates/robos/stargates quickly gives you idea when a building is idle. Well there's spamming to keep your APM up and warm up your hands, and then there's quickly cycling through production hotkeys to see what's being build or researched. I wouldn't really call the latter spam. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
1 CC 2 Building SCV 3 Scout I don't spam mid / late game (obviously T_T) | ||
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freestalker
469 Posts
(jk, I wonder if anyone will reply) | ||
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rbkl
772 Posts
(s) select larva repeat | ||
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adi1133
Romania109 Posts
LE maybe its a star-craft 1 thing, I never played that game ... im coming from the command and conquer series | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:22 Liquid`TLO wrote: I click through all of my starting scvs + cc as fast as I can. Just tried it. Although it is a good idea...I tend to lose track of my mineral count b/c I'm trying to click on each individual drone...-_-'. I'll stick to random worker boxes... | ||
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WolfStar
United Kingdom155 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
But I mean, everyone has their tricks, preferences, etc. I do believe though that some sort of fast clicking in the early game makes transitioning into fast midgame macro more easily than going from 5 apm to the triple digits instantly. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
Speaking of making boxes, I've always made them starting at top right and going down to bottom left. I know that a ton of people go top left to bottom right, but I could have sworn at one point that I heard someone mention that going top right to bottom left is more efficient for clicking on the minimap after grouping units, and it made complete sense to me so I started doing it, and now I just always do it that way out of habit. Does anyone else go top right to bottom left instead of top left to bottom right? | ||
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Santriell
Belgium151 Posts
zerglings. I win. APM ? 15. Woot your 200 APM really saved you !1! | ||
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intergalactic
Canada428 Posts
On July 05 2010 18:38 Santriell wrote: 6-pool. zerglings. I win. Yeah...no. | ||
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inTheMood
Norway128 Posts
On July 05 2010 09:34 rbkl wrote: (5) Select Hacthes (s) select larva repeat I tried this but combined with boxing drones... Don't do it! Lost count of how many times I managed to box all drones -> hit "S" followed by alot of frustration >_< | ||
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Stato
United Kingdom51 Posts
On July 05 2010 18:54 inTheMood wrote: I tried this but combined with boxing drones... Don't do it! Lost count of how many times I managed to box all drones -> hit "S" followed by alot of frustration >_< holy shit i feel your pain, thats why i just spam 234 hahaha | ||
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
my APM is about 160 midgame with only random spamming early game up until theres actually something to do. | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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Naraka
Canada21 Posts
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Pablols
Chile517 Posts
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
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pencilcase
United States330 Posts
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HolyOnes
Australia52 Posts
Oh! I play bejeweled blitz on Facebook i suppose i could call that mouse accuracy and apm =/ | ||
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zhul4nder
United States189 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=134124 | ||
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Deleted User 72834
247 Posts
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
I don't know why but SC2 is just exhausting when I play it... it feels like I'm going to have a heart attack sometimes from the pressure (no I'm not fat or in danger of dying) | ||
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TheNomad
United States134 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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