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crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
June 30 2010 09:24 GMT
#1
I was going through some blizzard artwork in my ugly beta deprived state when I stumbled across a picture of a container that looks alike to the one in sc1 with the zerg/prot hybrids.
It would make sense that the place is underground because Duran, or whoever, took the effort to hide them.

Anyways, what do you guys think of the form of the Xel'naga? It looks to me like a zerg queen and doesn't really resemble the Protoss at all, but it would make sense for it to have a powerful body (purity of essence/zerg) coupled with powerful psionic capabilities (purity of form/toss); thereby having a more zergy look coupled with Protoss intelligence. Also who is the figure who seems to be standing guard?

The only other explanation I can see for this picture would be that Zerg, by conquering Aiur, managed to finally achieve the goal of integrating the Protoss into the swarm. However this is less likely because I would imagine there to be creep and a more Zergy look around the place.

I don't believe that this is a new picture, so this may have been discussed like a year ago. Considering that I have been lurking the sc2 forums a lot lately i don't believe that anyone has made anything about this.

[image loading]
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Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
June 30 2010 09:33 GMT
#2
i've seen this before i think
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Profile Joined May 2010
Italy523 Posts
June 30 2010 09:48 GMT
#3
yes it is
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Sweden1000 Posts
June 30 2010 10:13 GMT
#4
Is it shards or eggs? Looks like something out of Aliens movie. And what is in that "Water container?"
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 10:18:24
June 30 2010 10:16 GMT
#5
Looks like the protoss are holding some sort of specimen. The crystals look like they are powering the chamber and perhaps some sort of containment unit. I'd bet it's the Xel'Naga, perhaps thats one of the reasons why the protoss are so advanced despite being a tribal culture. The crystals could also be so Templar can connect (from a large distance) to the specimen mentally and study it.
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Baxter
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia45 Posts
June 30 2010 10:16 GMT
#6
its the hybrid i think!!!
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RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
June 30 2010 10:21 GMT
#7
It seems very Duranish. I would put money on Duran and not Xel naga
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crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
June 30 2010 10:39 GMT
#8
On June 30 2010 19:21 RodrigoX wrote:
It seems very Duranish. I would put money on Duran and not Xel naga

What do you mean duranish? Duran works for the Xel naga i am not sure if he is one but he is thousands of years old.
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Brokengamer
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 10:42:39
June 30 2010 10:41 GMT
#9
It looks like the zerg queen in the chamber. This is a very old pic though.
ordos
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia38 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 10:49:27
June 30 2010 10:47 GMT
#10
It's Zeratul on the Dark Moon, before confronting the being known as Samir Duran

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_moon

EDIT more background: Duran would refer to the hybrid as the "completion of a cycle, a reference to the life cycle of the xel'naga, in which the long-lived but not immortal race would regenerate itself by modifying two species with purity of form and essence to naturally over eons involve into a new incarnation of the xel'naga.
crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
June 30 2010 11:01 GMT
#11
On June 30 2010 19:47 ordos wrote:
It's Zeratul on the Dark Moon, before confronting the being known as Samir Duran

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_moon

EDIT more background: Duran would refer to the hybrid as the "completion of a cycle, a reference to the life cycle of the xel'naga, in which the long-lived but not immortal race would regenerate itself by modifying two species with purity of form and essence to naturally over eons involve into a new incarnation of the xel'naga.

I know that happened but i am not sure if this picture refers to that because i think it was made for starcraft two so its more likely to have occured after and in the mission it wasn't in a cave plus that guy doesn't really look like zeratul.
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Kimera757
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada129 Posts
June 30 2010 11:07 GMT
#12
Could be a hybrid. But it almost looks like a queen instead.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
June 30 2010 11:28 GMT
#13
The last contact the Protoss and the Xel'Naga had was just prior to the Aeon of Strife. They did kill a number of their "creators" as they left, but they did not have a firm grasp on Xel'Naga technology and spent the following era warring amongst themselves. It'd be very odd if they had managed to secure an example of one, living or dead, and preserve it for any length of time.

It would be much more likely to be a specimen held by the Zerg, since their contact was much later and ended in the majority of the Xel'Naga being absorbed by the Overmind. Their grasp on technology was even worse, but the Overmind was a very quick learner! It's possible they kept some bodies.

Much more likely is this was drawn back during a time when the Xel'Naga weren't very exciting, but the thought of a Zerg/Protoss hybrid was the bee's knees due to Duran's experiments ("noted as Duranish by an above poster").
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
June 30 2010 11:34 GMT
#14
On June 30 2010 19:16 Phayze wrote:
Looks like the protoss are holding some sort of specimen. The crystals look like they are powering the chamber and perhaps some sort of containment unit. I'd bet it's the Xel'Naga, perhaps thats one of the reasons why the protoss are so advanced despite being a tribal culture. The crystals could also be so Templar can connect (from a large distance) to the specimen mentally and study it.


The Protoss learned from the Xel'Naga willingly, not by any sort of evaluation. The technology necessary to become a space-faring civilization was left to them (including a ship!). However, it's not likely that they caught one alive or were advanced enough to preserve one like that at the time of the Xel'Naga's departure.
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Axonn
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia287 Posts
June 30 2010 11:37 GMT
#15
The "Guard" has a psi blade if I'm not mistaking... I think those are not xel'naga
Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
June 30 2010 11:44 GMT
#16
On June 30 2010 18:24 crimsn wrote:
I was going through some blizzard artwork in my ugly beta deprived state when I stumbled across a picture of a container that looks alike to the one in sc1 with the zerg/prot hybrids.
It would make sense that the place is underground because Duran, or whoever, took the effort to hide them.

Anyways, what do you guys think of the form of the Xel'naga? It looks to me like a zerg queen and doesn't really resemble the Protoss at all, but it would make sense for it to have a powerful body (purity of essence/zerg) coupled with powerful psionic capabilities (purity of form/toss); thereby having a more zergy look coupled with Protoss intelligence. Also who is the figure who seems to be standing guard?

The only other explanation I can see for this picture would be that Zerg, by conquering Aiur, managed to finally achieve the goal of integrating the Protoss into the swarm. However this is less likely because I would imagine there to be creep and a more Zergy look around the place.

I don't believe that this is a new picture, so this may have been discussed like a year ago. Considering that I have been lurking the sc2 forums a lot lately i don't believe that anyone has made anything about this.

[image loading]


I think it's actually the same thing, unbeknownst to the zerg they're desire to integrate the protoss will ultimately yield the recreation of the Xel'Naga and thus the end of both of the races purposes.
TheKing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia186 Posts
June 30 2010 12:21 GMT
#17
I think by the end of the last campaign, we'll catch a glimpse of the Xel'Naga.
Sting
Profile Joined May 2003
Serbia76 Posts
June 30 2010 12:54 GMT
#18
Xel'Naga =/= Protoss - Zerg Hybrid.

Xel'Naga will make a P/Z Hybrid, them themselfs made both Zerg and Protoss, and now seek to create a third race to kill everyone else as they are not satisfied with their own creations.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
June 30 2010 13:00 GMT
#19
alls i know is that i want to raid that dungeon on world of starcraft.
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Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 13:04:37
June 30 2010 13:03 GMT
#20
On June 30 2010 21:54 Sting wrote:
Xel'Naga =/= Protoss - Zerg Hybrid.

Xel'Naga will make a P/Z Hybrid, them themselfs made both Zerg and Protoss, and now seek to create a third race to kill everyone else as they are not satisfied with their own creations.


Wrong.

From the wiki:

While there are vague references of the xel'naga conquering worlds and uplifting species, their most notable involvement was with the protoss and zerg.[1] Their interest in these two species was due to the xel'naga's cyclical life cycle. When the incredibly long-lived xel'naga were due to come to an end, the xel'naga would use these two species to be reborn.


and

The xel'naga were incredibly long-lived by protoss standards, but not immortal; eventually their species would come to an end. In the interest of survival they planned to create new xel'naga by uplifting two species. A pair of qualities was required and these were defined by the xel'naga as the purity of essence and the purity of form, and each uplifted species would be targeted for one of them. Over an extraordinary long period of time, the two species would naturally come together and merge.[3]


http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel'naga
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 30 2010 13:12 GMT
#21
Can't even make out what that looks like. I hope the Naga look more like toss, I think that would be sweet.
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Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
June 30 2010 19:31 GMT
#22
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 30 2010 19:36 GMT
#23
im pretty sure that is from the secret mission. zeratul is seeing the container and pylons are supplying the containers. just like in the mission!
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Trope
Profile Joined June 2010
United States40 Posts
June 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#24
so wait the new xel naga are just gonna be infested protoss
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 30 2010 20:00 GMT
#25
I think tha'ts the hybrid...
Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
June 30 2010 20:00 GMT
#26
that's the hybrid or aka Neo-Xel'Naga
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
July 01 2010 01:36 GMT
#27
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
July 01 2010 01:48 GMT
#28
On June 30 2010 21:54 Sting wrote:
Xel'Naga =/= Protoss - Zerg Hybrid.

Xel'Naga will make a P/Z Hybrid, them themselfs made both Zerg and Protoss, and now seek to create a third race to kill everyone else as they are not satisfied with their own creations.


So that's what that person was doing making the hybrids near the end of the BW campaign...
And that explains the wierd bird-thing absorbing protoss and zerg energy on Bhekar Ro... well partially...

Hmm...

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taarna
Profile Joined June 2010
United States61 Posts
July 01 2010 04:34 GMT
#29
All our speculation is probably going to be proven wrong, but as I want to see it....
the Xel'Naga, as a cyclic species, are not bound physically, genetically, etc....instead they are, by definition, at a certain level of sentience. Cyclically, this level will eventually be reached repeatedly over the eons of evolution by different species. The Xel'naga we know of sought to "preserve their xel'naganess" (or maybe guarantee the continuation of xel'naga) by creating the protoss and the zerg. Xel'naga purity of essence and form are surely going to be explained in greater detail, and the merging of zerg and protoss in this regard will be where Blizzard really gets to tie everything together. The whole story of starcraft will have a most epic of conclusions.

As I hope it happens (but don't expect), humanity will play a role in this reemergence of the xel'naga.

WE humans are stunningly complex. While the Universe holds about 10^80 particles, the human brain holds the possibility of 10^70000000000 brain states (dont explode ur brain, im comparing a sum to a complex combination).

Not to sound like a nut, but to smoke DMT, eat shrooms, ayahuasca or peyote, is to explore the vast dimensions of the universe that a sober mind could hardly fathom. The human brain has such incredibly potential that is locked up.

Xel'Naga in starcraft is an enigma that we hope to encounter more fully in the release of sc2. Metaphorically, I have been searching for them all my life.

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Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
July 01 2010 04:43 GMT
#30
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!



i dont think she knows. She didnt know duran was working for the Xel'Naga. the Xel'naga was the creator of zerg and protoss. Zerg and protoss is just half of the xel'naga. Not zerg and protoss merging to the xel'naga. Xel'naga is the superior race thats for sure.
SonKiE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
July 01 2010 04:50 GMT
#31
doesnt it kinda look like a queen in the tube?
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Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
July 01 2010 04:58 GMT
#32
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!


I'm fairly sure that Kerrigan (and Humanity in general) were unforeseen by the Xel'Naga. They didn't accommodate for Humans because they didn't know about them.

Most likely, the Xel'Naga had planned to manipulate the Zerg and Protoss to recreate themselves and then throw away the left-overs. Humanity, being an unforeseen variable, are gonna come in and overthrow the evil Xel'Naga and save both the Protoss and the Zerg (mostly unknowingly).
crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
July 01 2010 05:03 GMT
#33
I would like to direct anyone who is interesting more in understand the lore of starcraft to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133406
It was created by someone with a ton of knowledge of starcraft which also includes its novels. I liked his explanation of the hydrids in the tubes we have been seeing as Duran's and Ulrezaj's somewhat misguided attempts at furthering the cycle. Duran is most likely not a Xel'Naga himself and is using the help of human mercanaries to create these hybrids which obviously seems to be inferior to what the Xel'Naga themselves are capable of creating for themselves. As for the picture i think it is a Vat creature that Ulrezaj has been working on by combining zerg protoss and dark energy to create.
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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
July 01 2010 05:03 GMT
#34
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.
crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
July 01 2010 05:18 GMT
#35
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?
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Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 01 2010 06:14 GMT
#36
Looks like zealot or dt or something in a cave or zerg chamber or w/e. tank looks like it has a queen inside. maybe it was when they were making the new queens and Kerrigan had some toss bros under her control
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
July 01 2010 06:26 GMT
#37
On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


Could happen in any number of ways, for example the humans could get powerful enough to threaten the extinction of both protoss and zerg unless they merge.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
July 01 2010 06:49 GMT
#38
On July 01 2010 13:43 Looky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!



i dont think she knows. She didnt know duran was working for the Xel'Naga. the Xel'naga was the creator of zerg and protoss. Zerg and protoss is just half of the xel'naga. Not zerg and protoss merging to the xel'naga. Xel'naga is the superior race thats for sure.


As we see in the SC2 trailers, Kerrigan has been hanging around an old Xel'Naga temple learning a lot about the cyclical life of the Xel'Nagas. Not only does she know, so does Zeratul. Since Zeratul is best friends forever with Raynor, he tipped him off as well!

On July 01 2010 13:58 Sylvr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!


I'm fairly sure that Kerrigan (and Humanity in general) were unforeseen by the Xel'Naga. They didn't accommodate for Humans because they didn't know about them.

Most likely, the Xel'Naga had planned to manipulate the Zerg and Protoss to recreate themselves and then throw away the left-overs. Humanity, being an unforeseen variable, are gonna come in and overthrow the evil Xel'Naga and save both the Protoss and the Zerg (mostly unknowingly).


The Xel'Naga weren't evil when they existed before, but I'm not sure if you meant the new Xel'Naga might be evil. The ones who existed previously were enormously technologically advanced but held true to the belief that they should refrain absolutely from killing any living thing. They even found the Starcraft version of C'thun and locked it up rather than kill it.

Certainly they had their own motives and probably not everything they did benefited other life forms, but they didn't set out with evil agendas every morning.

On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


The Khala can be severed, since it was created and maintained by Xel'Naga technology and was cut off when the Xel'Naga left. It was then reestablished once a Protoss scientist rediscovered the Khaydarin crystals. I'm sure there are other ways around it than by destroying or disabling the supply of crystals, but it's just food for thought at this point!

The important thing is that somewhere in the Swarm are the memories and knowledge of the Xel'Naga and the Protoss have physical bodies perfect for utilizing the technology left behind. Combine both and you might just get a bunch of Protoss bodies with the knowledge of the Xel'Naga.
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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
July 05 2010 20:40 GMT
#39
I am not sure if this has been posted before, so excuse me if it has. I was wondering if this picture could relate to Xel Naga

[image loading]

Its on the artwork gallery
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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
July 05 2010 20:52 GMT
#40
On June 30 2010 19:39 crimsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 19:21 RodrigoX wrote:
It seems very Duranish. I would put money on Duran and not Xel naga

What do you mean duranish? Duran works for the Xel naga i am not sure if he is one but he is thousands of years old.


He doesnt work for them. The hybrid is perversion of the Xel Naga's goals. He is working against them, although he may not know so.
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chax
Profile Joined July 2010
United States18 Posts
July 05 2010 20:58 GMT
#41
I'm not convinced that that fellow is a guard. He seems to be looking at the tank in a way that I wouldn't expect a guard too.
It also looks like the "hybrid" in the tank isn't...all put together...

Fingers crossed for an epic cinematic with Duran and/or a hybrid at the end of the Zeratul WoL mini-campaign.
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Williowa
Profile Joined April 2010
129 Posts
July 05 2010 21:11 GMT
#42
I hate this.

Sure, WOL is likely to bring "new" developments in the story. However, in all 100% likelihood all 3 Starcraft2s will be over and we will still not have very good answers to the story.

Even if we get all the questions we have now satisfied, I imagine more new questions will be asked than answers given.

Let's just hope it isn't another Warcraft where everyone is working for someone else regardless of how powerful they are so in the end no answers are ever solved because every time you defeat one boss, you learn there's an even more powerful boss.
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Auronz
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil119 Posts
July 05 2010 21:39 GMT
#43
Contrary to popular belief, the different factions have ALREADY worked together against a greater evil. Kerrigan, Mengsk, Raynor, Fenix all banded together to free the enslaved Overmind and destroy the UED.
Zeratul has just came back telling Raynor he'll have Kerrigan's life on his hands but if she dies, whatever is coming wtfpwns the sector, an alliance of conveniences is not impossible, Kerrigan is not blind just bad to the bone. We don't have any information at all about what Artanis has been doing, though.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 21:44:26
July 05 2010 21:42 GMT
#44
On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel'naga

"The xel'naga were incredibly long-lived by protoss standards, but not immortal; eventually their species would come to an end. In the interest of survival they planned to create new xel'naga by uplifting two species. A pair of qualities was required and these were defined by the xel'naga as the purity of essence and the purity of form, and each uplifted species would be targeted for one of them. Over an extraordinary long period of time, the two species would naturally come together and merge."

Which explains why the Hybrid is NOT a Xel'naga. It's just not a natural merging over extraordinary periods of time.
SpartiK1S
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States145 Posts
July 05 2010 21:51 GMT
#45
OP, are you really in north korea? I thought the government censored stuff like the internet there.
"Why is it so cold and lonely?"-Nal_Ra
taarna
Profile Joined June 2010
United States61 Posts
July 05 2010 21:56 GMT
#46
On July 06 2010 06:42 Spyridon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel'naga

"The xel'naga were incredibly long-lived by protoss standards, but not immortal; eventually their species would come to an end. In the interest of survival they planned to create new xel'naga by uplifting two species. A pair of qualities was required and these were defined by the xel'naga as the purity of essence and the purity of form, and each uplifted species would be targeted for one of them. Over an extraordinary long period of time, the two species would naturally come together and merge."

Which explains why the Hybrid is NOT a Xel'naga. It's just not a natural merging over extraordinary periods of time.



Given that the Xel'Naga PLANNED for the merging to occur over an "extraordinarily long period of time", maybe this implies that Samir Duran's actions are the work of yet ANOTHER ALIEN SPECIES. If the Xel"Naga planned for a natural merging, his experiments may be the work of a different species (or perhaps just a rival Xel'Naga faction, although I highly doubt this). Or maybe Blizzard got a bit overextended in terms of lore and had to create a few contentious storylines to maintain logical flow.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
July 05 2010 22:01 GMT
#47
It looks exactly like a queen.
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Fdragon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
July 05 2010 22:05 GMT
#48
Holy shit is that Robot Unicorn inside that container?!?!?
ZvT makes me Sad Face =(
XeRoCrYSiS
Profile Joined May 2010
United States18 Posts
July 05 2010 22:56 GMT
#49
Duran and the Xel Naga are not connected at all besides similarities in what they want. What the Xel Naga intended was naturally integrating both races, while what Duran wants/stands for, wants to force it. The Xel Naga were completely wiped out by the zerg after they advanced them some.
Orangu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada198 Posts
July 06 2010 00:54 GMT
#50
On July 01 2010 13:34 taarna wrote:
All our speculation is probably going to be proven wrong, but as I want to see it....
the Xel'Naga, as a cyclic species, are not bound physically, genetically, etc....instead they are, by definition, at a certain level of sentience. Cyclically, this level will eventually be reached repeatedly over the eons of evolution by different species. The Xel'naga we know of sought to "preserve their xel'naganess" (or maybe guarantee the continuation of xel'naga) by creating the protoss and the zerg. Xel'naga purity of essence and form are surely going to be explained in greater detail, and the merging of zerg and protoss in this regard will be where Blizzard really gets to tie everything together. The whole story of starcraft will have a most epic of conclusions.

As I hope it happens (but don't expect), humanity will play a role in this reemergence of the xel'naga.

WE humans are stunningly complex. While the Universe holds about 10^80 particles, the human brain holds the possibility of 10^70000000000 brain states (dont explode ur brain, im comparing a sum to a complex combination).

Not to sound like a nut, but to smoke DMT, eat shrooms, ayahuasca or peyote, is to explore the vast dimensions of the universe that a sober mind could hardly fathom. The human brain has such incredibly potential that is locked up.

Xel'Naga in starcraft is an enigma that we hope to encounter more fully in the release of sc2. Metaphorically, I have been searching for them all my life.

@_@


I'm pretty sure thats just called tripping balls and usually actually only involves staring into nothing for extended periods of time, lol
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
July 06 2010 01:09 GMT
#51
It's a Morden-Durvala Purifier inside that tank, right?
What is a dickfour?
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
July 06 2010 01:30 GMT
#52
I'm pretty sure some lore already implies that Duran is doing something unnatural, while thinking he is doing the Xel'Naga's bidding. While the Protoss and Zerg are destined to merge into a perfect species, as alone the two were imperfect for Xel'Naga, Duran is fusing them out of the intention of the Xel'Naga. I think it was talked about in either the recent series of books (Dark Templar Saga) or somewhere by Blizzard, I don't remember.
taarna
Profile Joined June 2010
United States61 Posts
July 06 2010 03:05 GMT
#53
On July 06 2010 09:54 TangJuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 13:34 taarna wrote:
All our speculation is probably going to be proven wrong, but as I want to see it....
the Xel'Naga, as a cyclic species, are not bound physically, genetically, etc....instead they are, by definition, at a certain level of sentience. Cyclically, this level will eventually be reached repeatedly over the eons of evolution by different species. The Xel'naga we know of sought to "preserve their xel'naganess" (or maybe guarantee the continuation of xel'naga) by creating the protoss and the zerg. Xel'naga purity of essence and form are surely going to be explained in greater detail, and the merging of zerg and protoss in this regard will be where Blizzard really gets to tie everything together. The whole story of starcraft will have a most epic of conclusions.

As I hope it happens (but don't expect), humanity will play a role in this reemergence of the xel'naga.

WE humans are stunningly complex. While the Universe holds about 10^80 particles, the human brain holds the possibility of 10^70000000000 brain states (dont explode ur brain, im comparing a sum to a complex combination).

Not to sound like a nut, but to smoke DMT, eat shrooms, ayahuasca or peyote, is to explore the vast dimensions of the universe that a sober mind could hardly fathom. The human brain has such incredibly potential that is locked up.

Xel'Naga in starcraft is an enigma that we hope to encounter more fully in the release of sc2. Metaphorically, I have been searching for them all my life.

@_@


I'm pretty sure thats just called tripping balls and usually actually only involves staring into nothing for extended periods of time, lol


I'm pretty sure you've never done it...
Disposition
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada77 Posts
July 06 2010 03:13 GMT
#54
A bit off topic, but does anyone think it looks like the crystal caves from Donkey Kong Country 3?

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