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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 30 2010 13:12 GMT
#21
Can't even make out what that looks like. I hope the Naga look more like toss, I think that would be sweet.
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Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
June 30 2010 19:31 GMT
#22
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 30 2010 19:36 GMT
#23
im pretty sure that is from the secret mission. zeratul is seeing the container and pylons are supplying the containers. just like in the mission!
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Trope
Profile Joined June 2010
United States40 Posts
June 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#24
so wait the new xel naga are just gonna be infested protoss
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 30 2010 20:00 GMT
#25
I think tha'ts the hybrid...
Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
June 30 2010 20:00 GMT
#26
that's the hybrid or aka Neo-Xel'Naga
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
July 01 2010 01:36 GMT
#27
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!
Who dat ninja?
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
July 01 2010 01:48 GMT
#28
On June 30 2010 21:54 Sting wrote:
Xel'Naga =/= Protoss - Zerg Hybrid.

Xel'Naga will make a P/Z Hybrid, them themselfs made both Zerg and Protoss, and now seek to create a third race to kill everyone else as they are not satisfied with their own creations.


So that's what that person was doing making the hybrids near the end of the BW campaign...
And that explains the wierd bird-thing absorbing protoss and zerg energy on Bhekar Ro... well partially...

Hmm...

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taarna
Profile Joined June 2010
United States61 Posts
July 01 2010 04:34 GMT
#29
All our speculation is probably going to be proven wrong, but as I want to see it....
the Xel'Naga, as a cyclic species, are not bound physically, genetically, etc....instead they are, by definition, at a certain level of sentience. Cyclically, this level will eventually be reached repeatedly over the eons of evolution by different species. The Xel'naga we know of sought to "preserve their xel'naganess" (or maybe guarantee the continuation of xel'naga) by creating the protoss and the zerg. Xel'naga purity of essence and form are surely going to be explained in greater detail, and the merging of zerg and protoss in this regard will be where Blizzard really gets to tie everything together. The whole story of starcraft will have a most epic of conclusions.

As I hope it happens (but don't expect), humanity will play a role in this reemergence of the xel'naga.

WE humans are stunningly complex. While the Universe holds about 10^80 particles, the human brain holds the possibility of 10^70000000000 brain states (dont explode ur brain, im comparing a sum to a complex combination).

Not to sound like a nut, but to smoke DMT, eat shrooms, ayahuasca or peyote, is to explore the vast dimensions of the universe that a sober mind could hardly fathom. The human brain has such incredibly potential that is locked up.

Xel'Naga in starcraft is an enigma that we hope to encounter more fully in the release of sc2. Metaphorically, I have been searching for them all my life.

@_@
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
July 01 2010 04:43 GMT
#30
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!



i dont think she knows. She didnt know duran was working for the Xel'Naga. the Xel'naga was the creator of zerg and protoss. Zerg and protoss is just half of the xel'naga. Not zerg and protoss merging to the xel'naga. Xel'naga is the superior race thats for sure.
SonKiE
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
July 01 2010 04:50 GMT
#31
doesnt it kinda look like a queen in the tube?
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Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
July 01 2010 04:58 GMT
#32
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!


I'm fairly sure that Kerrigan (and Humanity in general) were unforeseen by the Xel'Naga. They didn't accommodate for Humans because they didn't know about them.

Most likely, the Xel'Naga had planned to manipulate the Zerg and Protoss to recreate themselves and then throw away the left-overs. Humanity, being an unforeseen variable, are gonna come in and overthrow the evil Xel'Naga and save both the Protoss and the Zerg (mostly unknowingly).
crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
July 01 2010 05:03 GMT
#33
I would like to direct anyone who is interesting more in understand the lore of starcraft to this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133406
It was created by someone with a ton of knowledge of starcraft which also includes its novels. I liked his explanation of the hydrids in the tubes we have been seeing as Duran's and Ulrezaj's somewhat misguided attempts at furthering the cycle. Duran is most likely not a Xel'Naga himself and is using the help of human mercanaries to create these hybrids which obviously seems to be inferior to what the Xel'Naga themselves are capable of creating for themselves. As for the picture i think it is a Vat creature that Ulrezaj has been working on by combining zerg protoss and dark energy to create.
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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
July 01 2010 05:03 GMT
#34
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.
crimsn
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (North)44 Posts
July 01 2010 05:18 GMT
#35
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?
North Korea is Best Korea
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 01 2010 06:14 GMT
#36
Looks like zealot or dt or something in a cave or zerg chamber or w/e. tank looks like it has a queen inside. maybe it was when they were making the new queens and Kerrigan had some toss bros under her control
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
July 01 2010 06:26 GMT
#37
On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


Could happen in any number of ways, for example the humans could get powerful enough to threaten the extinction of both protoss and zerg unless they merge.
=O
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
July 01 2010 06:49 GMT
#38
On July 01 2010 13:43 Looky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!



i dont think she knows. She didnt know duran was working for the Xel'Naga. the Xel'naga was the creator of zerg and protoss. Zerg and protoss is just half of the xel'naga. Not zerg and protoss merging to the xel'naga. Xel'naga is the superior race thats for sure.


As we see in the SC2 trailers, Kerrigan has been hanging around an old Xel'Naga temple learning a lot about the cyclical life of the Xel'Nagas. Not only does she know, so does Zeratul. Since Zeratul is best friends forever with Raynor, he tipped him off as well!

On July 01 2010 13:58 Sylvr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:36 urashimakt wrote:
I'm curious about this. If the Xel'Naga were depending on the Overmind's desire to assimilate the Protoss, what are the possible plans now that the Overmind is gone and a more sentient and self-serving Kerrigan is in command of the full swarm?

She already knows that the Xel'Naga are returning. I'm not sure if she understands that it would be through their merge, though. Would she fear the Zerg becoming the Xel'Naga? Would she lose control? Or would she desire it, becoming the mind behind a more powerful race (although, by all accounts the Xel'Naga didn't work like the zerg do, but maybe the neo-Xel'Naga would)?

So many questions!


I'm fairly sure that Kerrigan (and Humanity in general) were unforeseen by the Xel'Naga. They didn't accommodate for Humans because they didn't know about them.

Most likely, the Xel'Naga had planned to manipulate the Zerg and Protoss to recreate themselves and then throw away the left-overs. Humanity, being an unforeseen variable, are gonna come in and overthrow the evil Xel'Naga and save both the Protoss and the Zerg (mostly unknowingly).


The Xel'Naga weren't evil when they existed before, but I'm not sure if you meant the new Xel'Naga might be evil. The ones who existed previously were enormously technologically advanced but held true to the belief that they should refrain absolutely from killing any living thing. They even found the Starcraft version of C'thun and locked it up rather than kill it.

Certainly they had their own motives and probably not everything they did benefited other life forms, but they didn't set out with evil agendas every morning.

On July 01 2010 14:18 crimsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 14:03 Spyridon wrote:
It says that the Xel'Naga was a NATURAL MERGE of Zerg and Protoss.

Therefore, the attempts to create a Hybrid was obviously un-natural... which would mean the hybrid is NOT a Xel'Naga.

How can the protoss and zerg merge naturally? the Zerg are unable to infest the protoss because of the khala and the protoss have no desire to merge themselves with the zerg ( enemies who will fight them to the bitter end ) and they dont have the means. Do you have a source to verify what you said?


The Khala can be severed, since it was created and maintained by Xel'Naga technology and was cut off when the Xel'Naga left. It was then reestablished once a Protoss scientist rediscovered the Khaydarin crystals. I'm sure there are other ways around it than by destroying or disabling the supply of crystals, but it's just food for thought at this point!

The important thing is that somewhere in the Swarm are the memories and knowledge of the Xel'Naga and the Protoss have physical bodies perfect for utilizing the technology left behind. Combine both and you might just get a bunch of Protoss bodies with the knowledge of the Xel'Naga.
Who dat ninja?
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
July 05 2010 20:40 GMT
#39
I am not sure if this has been posted before, so excuse me if it has. I was wondering if this picture could relate to Xel Naga

[image loading]

Its on the artwork gallery
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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
July 05 2010 20:52 GMT
#40
On June 30 2010 19:39 crimsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 19:21 RodrigoX wrote:
It seems very Duranish. I would put money on Duran and not Xel naga

What do you mean duranish? Duran works for the Xel naga i am not sure if he is one but he is thousands of years old.


He doesnt work for them. The hybrid is perversion of the Xel Naga's goals. He is working against them, although he may not know so.
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