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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 15 2010 20:40 GMT
#181
btw those talking about macros in the keyboard: Razer is well aware that macros aren't allowed in tournaments, i told them many many times that was the case. macros exist on the keyboard for people who use one keyboard for more than one game or task, aka everyone ever. there'll be a system in place to prevent the use of macros in tournaments, these products can interface with the new bnet. that's part of the license ^_^
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
June 15 2010 20:40 GMT
#182
I like what I see, I hope the mouse delivers tbh.. Gonna be interesting to follow
Mada Mada Dane
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 15 2010 20:40 GMT
#183
On June 16 2010 05:40 Kyuki wrote:
I like what I see, I hope the mouse delivers tbh.. Gonna be interesting to follow


I found it quite similar to using a US Salmosa, which has been my SC mouse of choice for many years. I dunno if that helps, but I figure it's good info
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 15 2010 20:41 GMT
#184
Anyone that is saying high dpi = good for fps, has never played competitively in their entire life, and I guarantee this.

High dpi is not automatically good for fps, its motha fuckin preference. On top of this, the main important thing in a mouse is hertz, not dpi. My $30 ime 3.0 has more hertz overclocked then any shitty million dollar razer mouse.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
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Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom253 Posts
June 15 2010 20:42 GMT
#185
On June 16 2010 04:16 norterrible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 04:00 nicoaldo wrote:
On June 16 2010 03:56 USn wrote:
On June 16 2010 02:24 holy_war wrote:
A high dpi mouse is very important for FPS's


no it isn't :<


^i don´t know, FPS players play on very low sens, and a high dpi mouse gives you more precise moves on low sens...


As a moderately successful counter-strike player I can safely say that all the 'gaming gear' is complete marketing bullshit. Please don't buy anything from razer or these other XTREME gaming companies. Many of my teammates have been suckered into buying razer gear over the years and my old microsoft intellimouse with side buttons has outlasted at least 4 generations of their mice. My mouse is still going strong and not once have I wanted more DPI. I'm especially pissed at razer because their small and overpriced $50 mousepad (WITH CARRYING CASE ROFL) replaced the $9 enormous super mat they used to sell at Comp USA. Thanks razer, definitely looking out for my pro gaming interests. Without your scientifically (note: not) advanced mousing surfaces I'd never be ABLE TO GO FROM JOE TO PRO IN 1.337 seconds (gaming glove reference for those that witnessed that abomination of an ad campaign).

Basically this stuff just appeals to the same sort of person who buys those cs servers that advertise 10,000+ FPS mega boosted hyper laser accelerated.



Link to gaming glove ad?

Sounds hilarious
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
June 15 2010 20:43 GMT
#186
On June 16 2010 05:38 Destro wrote:
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On June 16 2010 05:33 dogmeatstew wrote:
I've decided I'm going to buy this and hack it up so that my screen brightness is directly correlated to my apm, that way I'm forced to keep my apm high or my screen will go black and I won't be able to see. I feel this will help with everything and make me awesome. And piss off people who try and use my computer.

I also need to hack this into word. Essay writing at its best.

Seriously though, they look pretty. Should put them in a case and look at the shiny.



hows your APM in farmville?

It's over 9000.
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
June 15 2010 20:46 GMT
#187
On June 16 2010 05:41 PanN wrote:
Anyone that is saying high dpi = good for fps, has never played competitively in their entire life, and I guarantee this.

High dpi is not automatically good for fps, its motha fuckin preference. On top of this, the main important thing in a mouse is hertz, not dpi. My $30 ime 3.0 has more hertz overclocked then any shitty million dollar razer mouse.


what do the higher hertz for a mouse do for you? (im not aware)
you think as i do
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
June 15 2010 20:46 GMT
#188
On June 16 2010 05:43 dogmeatstew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 05:38 Destro wrote:
On June 16 2010 05:33 dogmeatstew wrote:
I've decided I'm going to buy this and hack it up so that my screen brightness is directly correlated to my apm, that way I'm forced to keep my apm high or my screen will go black and I won't be able to see. I feel this will help with everything and make me awesome. And piss off people who try and use my computer.

I also need to hack this into word. Essay writing at its best.

Seriously though, they look pretty. Should put them in a case and look at the shiny.



hows your APM in farmville?

It's over 9000.



thats a lot of cows.

you sure your mouse has the DPI high enough for that? you don't want a shitty farm..


anyways back on topic, if fakesteve says its good that means a lot more to me then random TLer's imo. Is it worth the "upgrade" from other razer products tho?
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
Tyraz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
New Zealand310 Posts
June 15 2010 20:47 GMT
#189
I have to say, I like the key layout on the keyboard. Lol good thing I'm a vim programmer for the lack of arrow keys, though. Although, even then, it looks pretty sweet.

Still, pretty ballsy move to take out the navigation island and arrows. Respect for that.
100% Pure.
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 20:50:59
June 15 2010 20:50 GMT
#190
On June 16 2010 05:41 PanN wrote:
Anyone that is saying high dpi = good for fps, has never played competitively in their entire life, and I guarantee this.

High dpi is not automatically good for fps, its motha fuckin preference. On top of this, the main important thing in a mouse is hertz, not dpi. My $30 ime 3.0 has more hertz overclocked then any shitty million dollar razer mouse.


Except you can apply the usb rate patch at (legit) LANs. Current gen razer mice all support 1000hz natively.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 20:52:12
June 15 2010 20:51 GMT
#191
On June 16 2010 05:41 PanN wrote:
Anyone that is saying high dpi = good for fps, has never played competitively in their entire life, and I guarantee this.

High dpi is not automatically good for fps, its motha fuckin preference. On top of this, the main important thing in a mouse is hertz, not dpi. My $30 ime 3.0 has more hertz overclocked then any shitty million dollar razer mouse.


Again, high DPI is necessary for specifically low-sens FPS players.

Refresh rate ("hertz") is irrelevant because you can use software to make any mouse have 1000Hz (I use 500 on my Krait, for example, which is natively 125).
Twinweapon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States90 Posts
June 15 2010 20:51 GMT
#192
Their APM technology is just having the number keys on the right side of the keyboard auto group when pressed. Instead of just pressing ctrl+1 it is now just 1. That is very advanced APM technology right there.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 21:21:30
June 15 2010 21:10 GMT
#193
On June 16 2010 05:51 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 05:41 PanN wrote:
Anyone that is saying high dpi = good for fps, has never played competitively in their entire life, and I guarantee this.

High dpi is not automatically good for fps, its motha fuckin preference. On top of this, the main important thing in a mouse is hertz, not dpi. My $30 ime 3.0 has more hertz overclocked then any shitty million dollar razer mouse.


Again, high DPI is necessary for specifically low-sens FPS players.

Refresh rate ("hertz") is irrelevant because you can use software to make any mouse have 1000Hz (I use 500 on my Krait, for example, which is natively 125).


It's the opposite. High dpi is necessary for very high sensibility users, when the mouse needs to be able to dectect each minimal movement. But that is rarely the case. Low sensitivity is commonly used because it provides much better accuracy and precision. That's why a lot of professional fps players still use the intellimouse 3.0 which i believe only offers 400 dpi.

Also to increase frequency i'm not sure how it is now, but a while ago, you had to overlock the mouse chip.

Just google "best mouse", and you'll see over and over again: the consensus is that the best mice are the intelimmouse 3.0, the razer death adder and the logitech mx510. There's even a website somewhere, where they actually measured the speed at which the mouse would failt to be precise, among other things. All those 3 scored on top of almost everything (except dpi, price, extra buttons and stuff like that, which doesn't matter for practical use). There's no point in buying anything else more expensive, when cheaper ones are as good or better.

I myself have played FPS competitively first UT99 then Urban terror, and this mx510 has survived for about 5 years, and is in perfect shape - i take good care of it as well.

Another very important thing to have in mind is the mouse pad. It helps a lot that you can slide the mouse effortlessly yet not as much that there's no friction at all. Just that small amout is perfect. For that i'd recommend a steelpad 30cm or so (mine's a 5L), but nothing like googling and deciding for yourself.

As for the headphones, the top brand is Sennheiser, followed by Steelseries. The steelseries have headphones with changed tones as to improve hearing in different games, be it FPS, RTS or other types. For instance in FPS headphones they change some bass tones to increase the volume of walking steps, firing bullets, etc.

What generally happens is that products attached to games and such are more of a marketing move than an engeneering novelty, so beware.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
June 15 2010 21:11 GMT
#194
On June 16 2010 05:17 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
quite similar. during testing i played a ton of starcraft on a DT-35, a no-name brand mechanical keyboard, and this keyboard. they all shared a feeling of solidity. the equipment can definitely take a beating.

The DT-35 is a mechanical keyboard!?!?!?!???!
6581
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
June 15 2010 21:12 GMT
#195
I don't like the mouse, but the other 2 look absolutely awesome!!

Too bad they are horrendously overpriced. Why not just buy BETTER razer gear without the sc2 name for cheaper? The pricing makes no sense.
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Nutshell
Profile Joined March 2010
United States41 Posts
June 15 2010 21:20 GMT
#196
On June 16 2010 05:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
there'll be a system in place to prevent the use of macros in tournaments
Why would they even bother when macros don't actually do anything useful? It would be like banning boxing gloves.
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 21:33:32
June 15 2010 21:20 GMT
#197
APM lighting system lol

sadly I'll be tempted to buy them all
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 15 2010 21:36 GMT
#198
You know what would be the most WHAT THE FUCKING GOD AWESOME THING EVER?


If they made an APM powered mouse. The mouse ran on static electricity generated by gosu APM
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 15 2010 21:38 GMT
#199
On June 16 2010 06:20 Nutshell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 05:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
there'll be a system in place to prevent the use of macros in tournaments
Why would they even bother when macros don't actually do anything useful? It would be like banning boxing gloves.

This is such a terrible analogy... hahaha
LOL the more I'm thinking about it the worse it's getting hahahaha
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 15 2010 21:38 GMT
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