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sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
May 30 2010 18:55 GMT
#401
On May 31 2010 02:55 Ome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 02:35 Diminotoor wrote:
The people who really know how to send messages to corporations will in fact boycott Bnet2, SC2, and any affiliated services. I am one of them. It doesn't matter how many securities Blizzard puts into effect, there's a hacker somewhere out there who will crack it and distribute it so the storyline/1P people can get their hands on it without paying these stupid fees. Feel free to take it up the ass but a mature adult doesn't get that "I have to have my new toy right now I don't care about the cost!" feeling.


A mature adult doesn't steal.


Organized crime is run entirely by adults.
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Saber~
Profile Joined April 2010
United States60 Posts
May 30 2010 19:06 GMT
#402
I almost want to suggest a boycott. This is seriously severe. This Kotick fellow does not belong in the industry.
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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 19:08:43
May 30 2010 19:07 GMT
#403
If you play wow you'd know this already. Blizzard stated they would never charge for all that stuff that is mentioned being sold in WoW, then they merge with some corporate giant and tada everything costs money.

Anyone got a clue why they actually merged with Activision in the first place? I mean they had money coming out of their ass from WoW alone so i don't really see the benefits they get. They get someone who tells them what to do and in turn gets them even more money?-.-

And Kotick is pretty much what gamers should classify as Satan, i hope he resigns and dissappears soon but he's bringing the investors huge mountains of cash so i don't see that as a possibility in the near future, one can only hope...
Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 19:17:31
May 30 2010 19:17 GMT
#404
On May 31 2010 04:07 unkkz wrote:
If you play wow you'd know this already. Blizzard stated they would never charge for all that stuff that is mentioned being sold in WoW, then they merge with some corporate giant and tada everything costs money.


Paid Server Transfers and Paid name changes were in the game prior to the Activision-Blizzard Merger.

And the World of Warcraft Card Game, which since the beginning has included vanity pets, and mounts, which are only available by buying packs of trading cards, was released in 2005.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike Bobby Kotick for a variety of reasons, mostly pertaining to how he controls the game companies under his branch at Activision Blizzard, but to think he somehow started this premium feature business is ludicrous.

jdc214
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
May 30 2010 19:17 GMT
#405
Need to figure out a way to get Kotick fired, he does not deserve to have any position of power in any business ever. -_-

And Kotick is pretty much what gamers should classify as Satan


So true.
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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 30 2010 19:29 GMT
#406
On May 31 2010 03:02 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 02:55 Ome wrote:
On May 31 2010 02:35 Diminotoor wrote:
The people who really know how to send messages to corporations will in fact boycott Bnet2, SC2, and any affiliated services. I am one of them. It doesn't matter how many securities Blizzard puts into effect, there's a hacker somewhere out there who will crack it and distribute it so the storyline/1P people can get their hands on it without paying these stupid fees. Feel free to take it up the ass but a mature adult doesn't get that "I have to have my new toy right now I don't care about the cost!" feeling.


A mature adult doesn't steal.


so true! if you really want to boycott bnet2 and sc2 then do it without cracking the game. everything else is so phony


Word. The entire point of a boycott is that you don't like the service thats being offered. By pirating, its "Oh its fine, i just don't want to pay for it"...
Too Busy to Troll!
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 30 2010 19:33 GMT
#407
Someone should post this on the battle.net forums. Let the shitstorms begin.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 30 2010 19:43 GMT
#408
Even though it's business... this entire write up does piss me off. Thanks for the read.
BW -> League -> CSGO
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 19:45:44
May 30 2010 19:45 GMT
#409
Holy shit, this is disgusting. (even if it is just capitalism)
Bobby is the satan of videogames.

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jdc214
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 20:08:23
May 30 2010 19:59 GMT
#410
Deleted.
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 20:04:33
May 30 2010 19:59 GMT
#411
Thanks for the in depth post D3xter, good to see there's a clear root of evil. Kotick = alpha penis.

Edit: Before reading all this, I thought that Kespa's story on Blizzard's demands in their negotiation were exaggerated, but now it feels very realistic to me, especially since it's basically Kotick doing the big deal making.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 30 2010 20:01 GMT
#412
On May 31 2010 04:45 AlTheCake wrote:
Holy shit, this is disgusting. (even if it is just capitalism)
Bobby is the satan of videogames.

[image loading]



Why are there a bunch of teddy bears in hell?
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dcttr66
Profile Joined October 2003
United States555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 20:55:55
May 30 2010 20:03 GMT
#413
On May 31 2010 03:45 Legendary- wrote:
This post really opened my eyes to the evolution of gaming. Squaresoft was my ABSOLUTE favorite gaming company before Enix came and screwed it up. I was even playing Warcraft II and heavily addicted into Diablo at the time. I was literally a Blizzard and Squaresoft fanboy. I can't believe how terrible the Final Fantasy games have been coming along. To this day, nothing will ever beat the classics.

Same with Blizzard....the addiction I had to play War2 story all day long, even jump on the multiplayer playing Archer Warz in a DEAD game. It's a damn shame...a damn shame.

pff yeah. it's like you have battles of good vs bad everywhere nowadays.
On May 31 2010 02:44 cloudJR wrote:
Absolutely phenomenal post, but also a post that ruined my day.... well not only this did but also Husky's video on Youtube about his views on this whole situation lol. All these money hungry suits trying to push out a shitty/under-developed product makes me so angry, and wanting to charge more for it is almost comical. From no LAN, no chat rooms, no private games, constant drops..ect the list goes on and on. This just isn't how Blizzard has ever ran things. And what's worse is when they release a statement about issues and reasoning behind certain choices, their answers either don't answer anything or make no sense. Blizzard imo has released some of the greatest games of all time right next to Square Enix, and I will always support them. I'm just really hoping the release date gets pushed back not only to solve and fix all of these persistent issues, but to keep Blizzard's image and integrity in tact. This is about your fan base, not just about the greenbacks.

the b.net mistakes that happened recently with patch 13 make me think that someone sabotaged the program

On May 31 2010 01:18 bmml wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 00:11 BSandT wrote:
Guys plz continue to vote at the pole on page 18. It might not make a huge difference in the long run but at least make it the most voted pole on tl.net. Plz vote and encourage others to vote. I dont wanna see my fav game go down the drain because of some money hungry devil like Kotick.

thank you,
peace ;-)


I refuse to post in that poll, its stupid to try and ask for someone to be fired as a CEO for doing what they see as best for their company (profits). Its much more of a problem with Blizzards development morals as to whether or not they build a game with features which people want.

Whether Kotic is good for gaming is pretty much a big no but he isn't head of activision blizzard due to his love of gaming, hes a corporate CEO - not head of a game design studio. He looks after the interests of his shareholders, not whether a game progresses from the original, if someone says facebook integration will make profits - he'll add facebook integration. What we need to be doing is offering Blizzard reasons to add these much needed features not being as juvenile as to demand a CEO be fired....

helping a company out that already has lots of money isn't the way.
"When the righteous become many, the people rejoice; but when anyone wicked bears rule, the people sigh."

"The righteous one is knowing the legal claim of the lowly ones. He that is wicked does not consider such knowledge."

To Quote Jesus:
"The land of a certain rich man produced well. Consequently he began reasoning within himself, saying, 'What shall I do, now that I have nowhere to gather my crops?' So he said, 'I will do this: I will tear down my storehouses and build bigger ones, and there I will gather all my grain and all my good things; and I will say to my soul: "Soul, you have many good things laid up for many years; take your ease, eat, drink, enjoy yourself."' But God said to him, 'Unreasonable one, this night they are demanding your soul from you. Who, then, is to have the things you stored up?' So it goes with the man that lays up treasure for himself but is not rich toward God."

On May 31 2010 01:31 kyama wrote:
Even thou some of the things your list are troublesome. People tend to forget blizzard is a company trying to make money. As long as they keep giving me quality products, I don't mind paying for them. Your whole post is all about how they are trying to make money, but don't every company try to do the same?

yeah well giving someone a job and then forcing them to fight for their lively hood really seems to reek of a lack of appreciation for a job well done.
On May 30 2010 22:00 Antisocialmunky wrote:
What happens if one person bought the map, made the exact same map(maybe in a different tileset) and put it on there for free?

that's exactly why blizzard put in the map protection feature. so that people can do this if that person didn't protect his map.
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
May 30 2010 20:07 GMT
#414
This seems like an appropriate place to ask.. Did Blizzard management/employees ever have a public reaction to all the shit that happened with Infinity Ward?
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
May 30 2010 20:18 GMT
#415
On May 31 2010 05:07 BladeRunner wrote:
This seems like an appropriate place to ask.. Did Blizzard management/employees ever have a public reaction to all the shit that happened with Infinity Ward?

Of course they won't have an official stance on it, it is not their business. No need to get burned either by the market or by higher management (the holding company's management).
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AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 20:21:03
May 30 2010 20:20 GMT
#416
They have a top notch management and development team and we have a very high degree of confidence that they know how to run the business and a track record to prove it. In addition, they have an extraordinarily strong product pipeline, with Starcraft, Wrath of the Litch King and Diablo 3.


Litch king

lol
Justice
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada10 Posts
May 30 2010 20:24 GMT
#417
Jesus fuck. Frankly, with the controversy over BNet in context with this history, I don't see a future BNet that I will want to be a part of. I've always been a huge fan of the Diablo series, but I deliberately stayed away from WoW because of the way they monetized players. I got into SC very recently and I was very much considering buying SCII because it didn't seem to be going the direction of WoW. I see that I was wrong about that. I no longer plan on buying this game.

Fuck Activision.
Teddyman
Profile Joined October 2008
Finland362 Posts
May 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#418
Activision doesn't have anything to do with SC2. Activision Blizzard does, as they own Blizzard. Blizzard publishes their own games.
"Chess is a dead game" -Bobby Fischer 2004
LastToNight
Profile Joined May 2010
Israel4 Posts
May 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#419
My god... Speechless... I would like to THANK the former of this thread for the great work, i wish someone would do it earlier. Thats just means how blind we are and stuck in our virtual world. Kotick is doing an excelent job as CEO, i can just congratulate him on whats done. He brought a huge profit to the company he is running, meanless through what stepps. But im also happy that now i know what is really going on and will react accordinly.
Justice
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 20:35:35
May 30 2010 20:33 GMT
#420
On May 31 2010 05:29 Teddyman wrote:
Activision doesn't have anything to do with SC2. Activision Blizzard does, as they own Blizzard. Blizzard publishes their own games.


You don't think that the merger with Activision has had any bearing on the development choices for SC2 and BNet2.0 whatsoever?
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