• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:28
CEST 16:28
KST 23:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 222ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos)
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3133 users

Cross Realm Conundrum - Page 32

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 Next All
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
June 01 2010 11:20 GMT
#621
/signed

Not allowing cross-realm play is a major step backwards from pretty much every online multiplayer game.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 01 2010 11:26 GMT
#622
Amen!
keep it deep! @zulison
eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
June 01 2010 11:44 GMT
#623
[signed]
blizzard you are making stupid mistakes
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 11:59:04
June 01 2010 11:58 GMT
#624
This isnt WoW blizzard, there was no community moving in from another to segment for that game. The Starcraft community is international in every sense, so stop being so ignorant claiming 'lag' and start listening to the people who will be pushing your game beyond your average RTS.

Edit: How about a proper petition link that people have to sign with an email address Kennigt?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#625
why are people worried? someone very smart will hack this ezpz
Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
June 01 2010 12:04 GMT
#626
I hope for the best.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
June 01 2010 12:05 GMT
#627
It's so sad Blizzard don't care about gamers like us :/
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 01 2010 12:24 GMT
#628
I'm 1500% behind anything that moves towards chat channels and cross-region play without wasting time whining about Activision or fire-bombing Blizzard HQ nonsense.

It's going to be a massive change for the BNet2.0 architecture because it's already integrated into WoW as well. But let's hope they can prioritize it far higher than it currently is on their list.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
June 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#629
/signed
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
Chillsen
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany98 Posts
June 01 2010 13:22 GMT
#630
/signed
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:44:03
June 01 2010 13:42 GMT
#631
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.
You can figure out the other half.
Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
June 01 2010 13:48 GMT
#632
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 01 2010 13:52 GMT
#633
On June 01 2010 22:48 Maaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.


Relax man. The default implementation of BNet 2.0 architecture that SC2 is built upon doesn't allow people to "cross" realms easily. The way it's built right now their choice was to make everyone play in the same region for matchmaking purposes (greatly increased lag for average user) or to allow no one to cross regions and cut people into distinct regions. There's no gray area.

I know we think that since SC had it, it's easy to implement. But in this case, the way they built BNet makes it a lot harder to do. So when you consider "everyone including non-pros and non-BW players together" or "no one crosses regions and people play in distinct pods" the latency excuse becomes a lot more clear.

But, let our voice be heard: it's important they revisit the BNet architecture and find a way to allow these cross-region matchups. We should understand why they chose to go the way they did, but not allow excuses for why they can't revisit it in the near future.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
June 01 2010 13:56 GMT
#634
/Signed
Blizzard, please listen to the community.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
June 01 2010 14:03 GMT
#635
/Signed
Agree completely
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
June 01 2010 14:04 GMT
#636
I think a multi site article is a great idea, and look forward to seeing if Blizzard will listen.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
June 01 2010 14:12 GMT
#637
/signed and agreed
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
June 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#638
On June 01 2010 22:52 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:48 Maaku wrote:
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.


Relax man. The default implementation of BNet 2.0 architecture that SC2 is built upon doesn't allow people to "cross" realms easily. The way it's built right now their choice was to make everyone play in the same region for matchmaking purposes (greatly increased lag for average user) or to allow no one to cross regions and cut people into distinct regions. There's no gray area.

I know we think that since SC had it, it's easy to implement. But in this case, the way they built BNet makes it a lot harder to do. So when you consider "everyone including non-pros and non-BW players together" or "no one crosses regions and people play in distinct pods" the latency excuse becomes a lot more clear.

But, let our voice be heard: it's important they revisit the BNet architecture and find a way to allow these cross-region matchups. We should understand why they chose to go the way they did, but not allow excuses for why they can't revisit it in the near future.


This is irrelevant. It's not a lag issue, it's an issue with having to purchase additional clients should you wish to play on a different realm. Realm segretation is acceptable, if we can simply download the required client versions to play on a different realm, without being squeezed for an extra $60. That is just such harsh customer rape, I don't even know how to express it. Maybe the word rape was adequate? I don't think so. It is so ridiculously insulting it makes me want to torch Blizzard's HQ.
You can figure out the other half.
Delilah
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
June 01 2010 14:34 GMT
#639
/signed
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
June 01 2010 14:37 GMT
#640
On June 01 2010 23:26 HalfAmazing wrote:
Realm segretation is acceptable, if we can simply download the required client versions to play on a different realm, without being squeezed for an extra $60. That is just such harsh customer rape, I don't even know how to express it.


Yup. All about money and control.

Blizzard obviously doesn't want ESPORTS.
They don't want sports to begin with. You can't charge people that organize soccer tournaments. You can't "update" soccer and ask for $50 extra per player. You can't nickel and dime at every possible corner, leaving little to no independence at all in the hands of players/organizers and expect a sport to get big. "Sports" are a terrible concept from a developer's wallet's perspective. I think at this point and given the design choices that have been plainly explained to us, if you still believe Blizzard gives a ____ about ESPORTS, you're kidding yourself.
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
OSC Elite SC2 Cup #15
Liquipedia
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Reynor vs SerralLIVE!
Clem vs Lambo
TaKeTV5015
ComeBackTV 1303
Ryung 638
TaKeSeN 508
IndyStarCraft 373
Rex180
3DClanTV 119
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 638
IndyStarCraft 373
Rex 180
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 58507
Calm 4783
Shuttle 2344
Mini 738
Soma 584
EffOrt 546
Jaedong 485
Soulkey 368
Light 352
actioN 322
[ Show more ]
Mong 311
Rush 246
BeSt 229
ZerO 189
Zeus 115
Sharp 92
Last 87
Leta 69
soO 65
910 62
Hyun 57
Free 54
Sea.KH 50
ZZZero.O 44
Sacsri 37
Killer 35
Movie 29
sorry 25
HiyA 22
GoRush 19
Rock 18
zelot 15
Yoon 14
Noble 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Icarus 6
Dota 2
qojqva2635
XaKoH 506
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
zeus848
edward539
byalli523
Sick273
kRYSTAL_37
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor394
Other Games
singsing2551
B2W.Neo1282
Hui .252
ArmadaUGS156
KnowMe114
Livibee109
ZerO(Twitch)21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream137
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 6
• HerbMon 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV791
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.