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Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
June 01 2010 11:20 GMT
#621
/signed

Not allowing cross-realm play is a major step backwards from pretty much every online multiplayer game.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 01 2010 11:26 GMT
#622
Amen!
keep it deep! @zulison
eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
June 01 2010 11:44 GMT
#623
[signed]
blizzard you are making stupid mistakes
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 11:59:04
June 01 2010 11:58 GMT
#624
This isnt WoW blizzard, there was no community moving in from another to segment for that game. The Starcraft community is international in every sense, so stop being so ignorant claiming 'lag' and start listening to the people who will be pushing your game beyond your average RTS.

Edit: How about a proper petition link that people have to sign with an email address Kennigt?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 01 2010 12:02 GMT
#625
why are people worried? someone very smart will hack this ezpz
Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
June 01 2010 12:04 GMT
#626
I hope for the best.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
June 01 2010 12:05 GMT
#627
It's so sad Blizzard don't care about gamers like us :/
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 01 2010 12:24 GMT
#628
I'm 1500% behind anything that moves towards chat channels and cross-region play without wasting time whining about Activision or fire-bombing Blizzard HQ nonsense.

It's going to be a massive change for the BNet2.0 architecture because it's already integrated into WoW as well. But let's hope they can prioritize it far higher than it currently is on their list.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
June 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#629
/signed
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
Chillsen
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany98 Posts
June 01 2010 13:22 GMT
#630
/signed
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:44:03
June 01 2010 13:42 GMT
#631
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.
You can figure out the other half.
Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
June 01 2010 13:48 GMT
#632
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 01 2010 13:52 GMT
#633
On June 01 2010 22:48 Maaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.


Relax man. The default implementation of BNet 2.0 architecture that SC2 is built upon doesn't allow people to "cross" realms easily. The way it's built right now their choice was to make everyone play in the same region for matchmaking purposes (greatly increased lag for average user) or to allow no one to cross regions and cut people into distinct regions. There's no gray area.

I know we think that since SC had it, it's easy to implement. But in this case, the way they built BNet makes it a lot harder to do. So when you consider "everyone including non-pros and non-BW players together" or "no one crosses regions and people play in distinct pods" the latency excuse becomes a lot more clear.

But, let our voice be heard: it's important they revisit the BNet architecture and find a way to allow these cross-region matchups. We should understand why they chose to go the way they did, but not allow excuses for why they can't revisit it in the near future.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
June 01 2010 13:56 GMT
#634
/Signed
Blizzard, please listen to the community.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
June 01 2010 14:03 GMT
#635
/Signed
Agree completely
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
June 01 2010 14:04 GMT
#636
I think a multi site article is a great idea, and look forward to seeing if Blizzard will listen.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
June 01 2010 14:12 GMT
#637
/signed and agreed
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
June 01 2010 14:26 GMT
#638
On June 01 2010 22:52 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:48 Maaku wrote:
On June 01 2010 22:42 HalfAmazing wrote:
I've played on Europe, US, and Asia, and I've experienced 0 lag issues since UDP was fixed. They have no excuse. Not having chat channels is an inconvenience. Not having cross-realm play or LAN is an absolute deal breaker. I will not purchase the game without these critical features.

EDIT: but I will pirate the shit out of it.


Yeah but blizzard said you WILL LAGG! I mean dam do they think we are on 56k modems? They haven't even tested if we people do lagg they just have commanded that you will. At least have a test for the crap if there gonna give that excuse.

Since as you say there are little to no problems with lagg from our own experience.


Relax man. The default implementation of BNet 2.0 architecture that SC2 is built upon doesn't allow people to "cross" realms easily. The way it's built right now their choice was to make everyone play in the same region for matchmaking purposes (greatly increased lag for average user) or to allow no one to cross regions and cut people into distinct regions. There's no gray area.

I know we think that since SC had it, it's easy to implement. But in this case, the way they built BNet makes it a lot harder to do. So when you consider "everyone including non-pros and non-BW players together" or "no one crosses regions and people play in distinct pods" the latency excuse becomes a lot more clear.

But, let our voice be heard: it's important they revisit the BNet architecture and find a way to allow these cross-region matchups. We should understand why they chose to go the way they did, but not allow excuses for why they can't revisit it in the near future.


This is irrelevant. It's not a lag issue, it's an issue with having to purchase additional clients should you wish to play on a different realm. Realm segretation is acceptable, if we can simply download the required client versions to play on a different realm, without being squeezed for an extra $60. That is just such harsh customer rape, I don't even know how to express it. Maybe the word rape was adequate? I don't think so. It is so ridiculously insulting it makes me want to torch Blizzard's HQ.
You can figure out the other half.
Delilah
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden13 Posts
June 01 2010 14:34 GMT
#639
/signed
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
June 01 2010 14:37 GMT
#640
On June 01 2010 23:26 HalfAmazing wrote:
Realm segretation is acceptable, if we can simply download the required client versions to play on a different realm, without being squeezed for an extra $60. That is just such harsh customer rape, I don't even know how to express it.


Yup. All about money and control.

Blizzard obviously doesn't want ESPORTS.
They don't want sports to begin with. You can't charge people that organize soccer tournaments. You can't "update" soccer and ask for $50 extra per player. You can't nickel and dime at every possible corner, leaving little to no independence at all in the hands of players/organizers and expect a sport to get big. "Sports" are a terrible concept from a developer's wallet's perspective. I think at this point and given the design choices that have been plainly explained to us, if you still believe Blizzard gives a ____ about ESPORTS, you're kidding yourself.
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