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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 23:39:37
May 28 2010 20:36 GMT
#1
Dear Blizzard

It's mid 2011. 32 Players remain in the Tamagochi TSL Season 10. They are from 15 different countries, and play across the 3 Bnet 2.0 servers.

Do i tell these players they need to buy 2 more copies of Starcraft 2 in order to play each other (they've now spent 200$ to compete internationally)? Or do i encourage them to break Blizzard's ToS by sharing accounts in order to play? By the second expansion - players would be expected to own 9 games (1 SC, 2 expansions - for all 3 realms).

There is nothing stopping players from doing cross realm play now - this isn't a lag issue. We've had to deal with that for years, and it was solved by the community (chaos launcher) - the same is likely for SC2. Players are competing cross realm right now in beta with few problems.

I believe in my heart of hearts that the people behind these decisions are just ignorant to the needs of esports players and organizers, and that this isn't just a money grab. That being said, I can't believe that the communication divide between Blizzard and it's Starcraft community has grown so wide that these same people aren't aware of the massive hindrance this lack of cross realm support is to the "esports" that they wish to support and grow (this sentence is long - English Major support please).

Cross realm play isn't on your list? Put it on your list.

Listen. To. Your. Community.

[spoiler="Quote From Interview with Frank Pearce"]
Quote from the interview

Interviewer: There are many Europeans that have loads of American friends, and have a problem finding matches with Americans. I know you've already promised to bridge this divide...

[Bob Colayco: That's not the case.]

Interviewer No, it'll be structured very similarly to World of Warcraft, where you've got the European region and players matched against the other players within their region.

[BC: We haven't promised anything like that. That's something we'll look into, but I just wanted to jump in and clarify that.]

Interviewer: But you're not excluding the possibility – you're just saying there are no current plans for it?

Pearce: There are no current plans for it, and if you're a European player and you've got friends that are in another region that you want to be able to connect with, we definitely want to support that. It might mean that you have to access it through the US client, but those facilities will definitely be available in terms of, if you want the US client, go to the US website, download the US client.

Interviewer: So I can use my same account?

Pearce: No.

Interviewer: So I need to buy two clients, that's what you're saying?

Pearce: Yeah.
[/spoiler]
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
May 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2
\signed. Couldnt agree more. Chatchannels can be overcome. But we need one world
Lollersauce
Profile Joined April 2010
United States357 Posts
May 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#3
But guys, it's the always connected experience!!!1

How can that be bad?

In other news, /signed.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
May 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#4
Yes, I definitely agree with this, I really hope blizzard listens, because especially Australians and New Zealanders who got to connect to the USA server, We have quite massive command lag, 1-2 seconds
renchak
Profile Joined April 2009
209 Posts
May 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#5
Blizzard seems to be all about the money at this point. Even if they dont please the hardcore scene we are just a minority.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#6
Please listen, Blizzard.
Nitro68
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
France470 Posts
May 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#7
It'll be even better in 2012 when they will have to buy Heart of the Swarm for each region too...
Dragonsven
Profile Joined April 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 20:40:58
May 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#8
Do you really want chat rooms?

edit: Also, it will end up being 6 extra games, not 2.
Fair and balanced.
jackofclubs81
Profile Joined January 2010
United States196 Posts
May 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#9
\signed. Why should we pay extra to play the people we want to?
Lollersauce
Profile Joined April 2010
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-28 20:41:35
May 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#10
On May 29 2010 05:39 renchak wrote:
Blizzard seems to be all about the money at this point. Even if they dont please the hardcore scene we are just a minority.



Well, the way they have set up sc2, ESPORTS could theoratically make them a lot of money.
But if they don't actually want to bother trying, then wtf...
Vexx
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States462 Posts
May 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#11
Judging from the weekly detailed posts here with polls and good discussion, I can't help but feel that Blizzard does not read much TL.
I am not nice.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#12
It really makes you wonder what their "esports team" actually does. It is clear they dont tell the development team the needs of the esports community.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
May 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#13
this. blizz needs to get their head out of their collective asses and do what the community wants, not what they think they want, like facebook integration.

who knows how awesome bnet might have been if any of them actually played games and were members of the community.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
May 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#14
What ticks me off is that Blizzard says things like "We want e-sports to grow internationally"

blah blah more crap like that and they don't allow cross realm play...

I too feel like they are missing big points in community hearing. I feel like going down to Irvine and just telling them..
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#15
Is there a way to communicate this to Blizzard besides just posting?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#16
On May 29 2010 05:41 Mastermind wrote:
It really makes you wonder what their "esports team" actually does. It is clear they dont tell the development team the needs of the esports community.

They authorize events - they have nothing to do with planning this afaik. That being said i wish an esports team member would Hadduken one of these producers/managers on my behalf.
Lollersauce
Profile Joined April 2010
United States357 Posts
May 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#17
On May 29 2010 05:41 WiljushkA wrote:
who knows how awesome bnet might have been if any of them actually played games


Isn't that sad? You can tell they are not in any way connected to the SC community.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#18
I'm not so sure lag issues can be just discounted like that. In IdrA's most recent interview, he says anytime he logs onto the US or especially the Euro server, the latency is pretty terrible. I've heard similar concerns from all sorts of players who have multiple accounts (or share them). I think the lag is a real and genuine factor. That said, the fact that we don't even have the option to log onto another realm is extremely irritating. I'm sure there are a lot of backend optimizations that could be put into play to alleviate lag problems and simulate a chaoslauncher experience.

Chat channels is my beef. I wrote this in the other thread, but how are you supposed to coordinate with more than 4 people? Add them all to your friends list and message them individually? Use the broadcast system? Those are both stupid ideas that could easily be sidestepped by adding in basic private channel functionality. There is no excuse for not implementing such a feature.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#19
Signed.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
May 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#20
On May 29 2010 05:42 Salv wrote:
Is there a way to communicate this to Blizzard besides just posting?

By causing a shit storm.
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