Lol I just read this and then saw it in the banned thread. Man, what a jerk. 2 posts and already flaming people and abusing. I struggle to pick a favourite mod on this site because you all just get rid of the trash so fast

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Australia2229 Posts
June 01 2010 08:21 GMT
#1861
On June 01 2010 16:53 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 03:03 Magmar wrote: On May 31 2010 13:11 fuzzehbunneh wrote: yet another instance of our culture's everybody is a winner attitude creeping into competition and ruining it for everyone. Consider this: You are not a korean Programer. Korean Progamer could say everybody who is not on our level and earning money with this Game is per definition a stupid loser. How would you feel? And don´t claim that you would shrug this off. Not when you hold up the flag of competition and winner gets it all. blizzard keeps trying to cater to casual gamers, and honestly this turns off the hardcore gamers when the casual gamers COULDNT CARE LESS about any of it as they are by definition CASUAL Blizzard knows there are only a few dozen thousands of "hardcore gamers" that look like Count Dracula because they don´t see the sun very often. It would be stupid to cater to these male virgins. Better to make games that appeal to millions of people. It´s not only better for them. Computergames became relevant when companies started to make content for people who knew Sex and Sunlight. The 99,9% of the overall male and female population. Thats the horrible thing about this: WE ALLOW ONLY THE GAME FANATICS TO COMPLAIN ABOUOT B NET 2.0. And thats stupid! The casual gamers have to step up forward too or you and your kind will ruin it for everyone. Hello. Good bye. Lol I just read this and then saw it in the banned thread. Man, what a jerk. 2 posts and already flaming people and abusing. I struggle to pick a favourite mod on this site because you all just get rid of the trash so fast ![]() | ||
rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
June 01 2010 08:22 GMT
#1862
might sound sort of elitist.. but i'm sure if they implemented that there could also be "general" groups that have moderation but at the same time allow randoms to join.. | ||
Santriel
Belgium33 Posts
June 01 2010 09:26 GMT
#1863
Xordiah: What I wanted to bring up though was, that while having a lot of players have a very strong opinion about something is a good thing, it is a very bad thing if they are not able to communicate this in a constructive manner. We... have... no... chat... channels. | ||
Jaug
Sweden249 Posts
June 01 2010 10:39 GMT
#1864
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
June 01 2010 10:47 GMT
#1865
i remember it being after activision took over | ||
y8ycgl
United States1 Post
June 01 2010 10:51 GMT
#1866
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Daxten
Germany127 Posts
June 01 2010 11:28 GMT
#1867
On June 01 2010 17:22 Paramore wrote: I sincerely hope that they implement the ability to be a part of multiple groups (not clans) so that u could join say... a tournament group that sort of works like a clan.. with moderators instead of clan leaders.. so that u could coordinate effectively... etc.. if they implemented that i wouldn't care about whether chat channels existed or not... cause then u could have any type of group you wanted (like chat channel) but who could join the group could be moderated.. (no spam or randoms) might sound sort of elitist.. but i'm sure if they implemented that there could also be "general" groups that have moderation but at the same time allow randoms to join.. I think that is exactly how it will work.. I actualy dont understand all the rage around here.. | ||
DiTH
Greece116 Posts
June 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#1868
On June 01 2010 20:28 Daxten wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 17:22 Paramore wrote: I sincerely hope that they implement the ability to be a part of multiple groups (not clans) so that u could join say... a tournament group that sort of works like a clan.. with moderators instead of clan leaders.. so that u could coordinate effectively... etc.. if they implemented that i wouldn't care about whether chat channels existed or not... cause then u could have any type of group you wanted (like chat channel) but who could join the group could be moderated.. (no spam or randoms) might sound sort of elitist.. but i'm sure if they implemented that there could also be "general" groups that have moderation but at the same time allow randoms to join.. I think that is exactly how it will work.. I actualy dont understand all the rage around here.. The rage is because of this being implemented "at a later date" so actually even if it works this way for atleast the first 3 months of battle.net this wont exist in any form according to their statements.A later date may be 3 months or 6 months or at the 1st expansion.And until then you are forced to make an account on another site to have a "community like" feature that is offering actually far less than every other form of battle.net offered in the past. | ||
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
June 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#1869
But that is not the reason. The reason is money. We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 | ||
KameZerg
Sweden1747 Posts
June 01 2010 12:49 GMT
#1870
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
June 01 2010 12:56 GMT
#1871
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RaGe
Belgium9944 Posts
June 01 2010 13:03 GMT
#1872
On June 01 2010 21:42 Archerofaiur wrote: People argueing about hardcore vs casual gamers are missing the point. Almost everyone wants chat channels OR at the very least sees nothing wrong with them. WOW the most casual Blizzard game on the planet has chat channels. The BNET forums are raging about no chat rooms. It is not that Blizzard is catering to the casual gamer. I suspect that many are falling back to that old arguement because its been used so much on this site before :p But that is not the reason. The reason is money. Show nested quote + We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 lol, any lawsuit based on that would be won by Blizzard easily. ISPs, Server hosters, and forum hosters are all not responsible for the non endorsed content of their service. Otherwise some random dude could post something on TL and we would be responsible for it. Same goes for Battle.net. It would be an easy win. | ||
zealing
Canada806 Posts
June 01 2010 13:06 GMT
#1873
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
June 01 2010 13:17 GMT
#1874
On June 01 2010 22:03 RaGe wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 21:42 Archerofaiur wrote: People argueing about hardcore vs casual gamers are missing the point. Almost everyone wants chat channels OR at the very least sees nothing wrong with them. WOW the most casual Blizzard game on the planet has chat channels. The BNET forums are raging about no chat rooms. It is not that Blizzard is catering to the casual gamer. I suspect that many are falling back to that old arguement because its been used so much on this site before :p But that is not the reason. The reason is money. We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 lol, any lawsuit based on that would be won by Blizzard easily. ISPs, Server hosters, and forum hosters are all not responsible for the non endorsed content of their service. Otherwise some random dude could post something on TL and we would be responsible for it. Same goes for Battle.net. It would be an easy win. Lets look at the facts Fact 1: Activision views chat features as a significant investment risk factor. Fact 2: Starcraft 2 will not feature chat channels. Fact 3: At some point in the future chat rooms devoted to specific subjects may be implemented. | ||
Takkara
United States2503 Posts
June 01 2010 14:01 GMT
#1875
On June 01 2010 22:17 Archerofaiur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 22:03 RaGe wrote: On June 01 2010 21:42 Archerofaiur wrote: People argueing about hardcore vs casual gamers are missing the point. Almost everyone wants chat channels OR at the very least sees nothing wrong with them. WOW the most casual Blizzard game on the planet has chat channels. The BNET forums are raging about no chat rooms. It is not that Blizzard is catering to the casual gamer. I suspect that many are falling back to that old arguement because its been used so much on this site before :p But that is not the reason. The reason is money. We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 lol, any lawsuit based on that would be won by Blizzard easily. ISPs, Server hosters, and forum hosters are all not responsible for the non endorsed content of their service. Otherwise some random dude could post something on TL and we would be responsible for it. Same goes for Battle.net. It would be an easy win. Lets look at the facts Fact 1: Activision views chat features as a significant investment risk factor. Fact 2: Starcraft 2 will not feature chat channels. Fact 3: At some point in the future chat rooms devoted to specific subjects may be implemented. Which is half of what I was saying 2-3 pages ago that people were flipping out about. A lot of people here that work in mid-to-large companies know far too well about Risk Management. For better or worse it's the mantra that a lot of firms use in their development. All things being equal, it would take a lot of resources to mitigate the potential risks of public chat channels. All things are not equal in this case, and it's really important for there to be chat channels, but it's a non-trivial add in this case. | ||
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
June 01 2010 14:08 GMT
#1876
On June 01 2010 23:01 Takkara wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 22:17 Archerofaiur wrote: On June 01 2010 22:03 RaGe wrote: On June 01 2010 21:42 Archerofaiur wrote: People argueing about hardcore vs casual gamers are missing the point. Almost everyone wants chat channels OR at the very least sees nothing wrong with them. WOW the most casual Blizzard game on the planet has chat channels. The BNET forums are raging about no chat rooms. It is not that Blizzard is catering to the casual gamer. I suspect that many are falling back to that old arguement because its been used so much on this site before :p But that is not the reason. The reason is money. We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 lol, any lawsuit based on that would be won by Blizzard easily. ISPs, Server hosters, and forum hosters are all not responsible for the non endorsed content of their service. Otherwise some random dude could post something on TL and we would be responsible for it. Same goes for Battle.net. It would be an easy win. Lets look at the facts Fact 1: Activision views chat features as a significant investment risk factor. Fact 2: Starcraft 2 will not feature chat channels. Fact 3: At some point in the future chat rooms devoted to specific subjects may be implemented. Which is half of what I was saying 2-3 pages ago that people were flipping out about. A lot of people here that work in mid-to-large companies know far too well about Risk Management. For better or worse it's the mantra that a lot of firms use in their development. All things being equal, it would take a lot of resources to mitigate the potential risks of public chat channels. All things are not equal in this case, and it's really important for there to be chat channels, but it's a non-trivial add in this case. Can't you just see some investor taking off his glasses and saying "Now Bob Ive been taking a look at our investment risk analysis and do you know what I think could drastically improve investor confidence...." | ||
Angryhorse
Sweden387 Posts
June 01 2010 14:19 GMT
#1877
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Canada4732 Posts
June 01 2010 14:44 GMT
#1878
On June 01 2010 23:01 Takkara wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2010 22:17 Archerofaiur wrote: On June 01 2010 22:03 RaGe wrote: On June 01 2010 21:42 Archerofaiur wrote: People argueing about hardcore vs casual gamers are missing the point. Almost everyone wants chat channels OR at the very least sees nothing wrong with them. WOW the most casual Blizzard game on the planet has chat channels. The BNET forums are raging about no chat rooms. It is not that Blizzard is catering to the casual gamer. I suspect that many are falling back to that old arguement because its been used so much on this site before :p But that is not the reason. The reason is money. We are subject to risks associated with the collaborative online features in our games, such as World of Warcraft 's online chat feature, which allows consumers to post narrative comment, in real time, that is visible to other players. Despite our efforts to restrict inappropriate consumer content, from time to time objectionable and offensive consumer content may be posted to a World of Warcraft gaming site or the sites of other games or game services, such as Battle.net, with online chat features or game forums which allow consumers to post comments. We may be subject to lawsuits, governmental regulation or restrictions, and consumer backlash (including decreased sales and harmed reputation), as a result of consumers posting offensive content, any of which could harm our operating results. http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-10-1649 lol, any lawsuit based on that would be won by Blizzard easily. ISPs, Server hosters, and forum hosters are all not responsible for the non endorsed content of their service. Otherwise some random dude could post something on TL and we would be responsible for it. Same goes for Battle.net. It would be an easy win. Lets look at the facts Fact 1: Activision views chat features as a significant investment risk factor. Fact 2: Starcraft 2 will not feature chat channels. Fact 3: At some point in the future chat rooms devoted to specific subjects may be implemented. Which is half of what I was saying 2-3 pages ago that people were flipping out about. A lot of people here that work in mid-to-large companies know far too well about Risk Management. For better or worse it's the mantra that a lot of firms use in their development. All things being equal, it would take a lot of resources to mitigate the potential risks of public chat channels. All things are not equal in this case, and it's really important for there to be chat channels, but it's a non-trivial add in this case. It wouldn't take "a lot of resources to mitigate the potential risks of public chat channels". It would take a single splash screen that says "ERSB RATING MAY NOT APPLY TO ONLINE PLAY" and bam, you're done. | ||
DTWolfwood
38 Posts
June 01 2010 14:45 GMT
#1879
Guess you don't know what your missing till you lose it ![]() | ||
Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
June 01 2010 15:48 GMT
#1880
iNcontroL: I think that where the ladder fails, and I use that word in its literal sense, meaning I think it will be a complete failure if it remains the same, is with channels. I think the current system that we see with Battle.net is extremely lonely. It's very hard to socialize. It makes the game feels very void of anything. You know the only thing that keeps me going through it is that I've sit on Ventrilo with my team and we joke around and talk all day. But if i didn't have that, I don't know if I would be able to enjoy multiple hours on Battle.net 2 where it seems like you're alone. And you play these games against people that you know, don't necessarily care for you and every once in a while you hit a friend, but even that's very rare. http://sclegacy.com/interviews/12-esports/714-scl-interviews-incontrol When famous pro gamers feel lonely on Battlenet you know you have a problem ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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