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Starcraft Terms to Make You Sound Smart

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The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:37:00
May 22 2010 23:51 GMT
#1
Admins please forgive this otherwise very mannered poster--you can check my history to see I'm usually not so crass.

R.T.S. TERMS TO MAKE YOU SOUND SMART WITHOUT ACTUALLY KNOWING THE GAME:

Metagame: Once a term for the dynamic that arose outside of the game itself based on the tendencies of players to adapt to trends and common counters, this term is now a meaningless, pseudo-intellectual way to say "game."

FE: The common acronym for Fast Expand or Fast Expansion. Just because you say you "throw down an FE" does not make you Flash (EffOrt?).

Timing Push:
A timing push is a concept based around a window in the metagame (see that?) wherein your opponent has few units or the wrong type of units. For example, when your opponent expands he invests money in his economy, creating a point in time when he has fewer units and is vulnerable to a timing push. Also, when one player makes a tech switch this also creates a window of opportunity until his or her opponent can switch accordingly. So when you sit contentedly making units from one base of resources and move out arbitrarily to stomp your silver level opponent because you like the size of your army and you finally figured out how to build a Raven this is not a timing push. SCOUT TO DISCOVER TIMING WINDOWS.

Dual: Not a big deal, but there are some of us out there who would rather you just say "two."

Viable: Viability is not binary. Take that statement to heart and carry it with you all the way to gold league. Yes, it's true that some strategies or tactics are more difficult to implement or easier to counter for your opponent, but sometimes those are the most rewarding. It behooves the Beta tester to find creative new ways around obstacles in the metagame (BOOM! Two for two!) rather than declaring seemingly difficult things unviable. Try this: Pick a unit and find a use for it instead of picking a use and finding a unit for it. This segues nicely into:

Imbalanced: Imba, OP, overpowered, broken, whatever you want to call it. Yes, it is a Beta and there may be some balance issues. But who will emerge the stronger, more versatile player: The player who declares imbalance at the roadblocks in his/her play and is at the mercy of Blizzard's buffs and nerfs like a begging puppy, or the player who is determined to win regardless of balance issues and is that much stronger when the buffs come? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, very few players are good enough at Starcraft II for racial balance to even matter. If you have 3,000 minerals in the bank, expand at ten minutes, and think that "micro" is A-moving banelings (hint: they often do better right-click moved through the enemy), then there are much greater things to worry about than the range of a voidray you lost to that one time you almost got to top ten in gold.

Micro/Macro: These two myriad terms are perhaps responsible for more ambiguity than any others over the years of Starcraft glory. Saying that you have good micro and bad macro (hint: that's what all new players say) means next to nothing. Saying that you have trouble knowing when to expand, trouble controlling large army groups, or trouble saturating new bases with workers is... what's the word... USEFUL. The quality of the advice you receive is directly proportional (think x=y) to the quality of your request for it.

BY REQUEST


Cheese: A few weeks back there was actually a great post concerning the definitions of the overused terms "cheese" and "all-in" by a well known user whose name escapes me right now, so credit is due to him for these definitions. Cheese is a strategy whose success is very dependent on remaining unknown to the enemy. This means that something like a Dark Templar rush is often considered cheese because a player aware of this plan can prepare detection ahead of time, while something like Hellion harass is less cheesy because you can be fully aware of the impending Hellions and still take damage without taking measured precautions (like blocking your ramp, making a spine crawler, or running drones). NOT ALL CHEESE IS ALL-IN.

All-in: All-in is a word commonly used to describe a strategy you have been beaten by. For example: "That noob went all-in 2-Gate FE!!!!!!!111!!!zomg!!protossisOPnerfmoar!!!" All-in is the perfect scapegoat! You can never have a bad game again with the handy all-in accusation! In normal person land, all-in describes a strategy that aims to end the game at one specific point and often lacks a STABLE followup. The perfect example is the 6-Pool, a build whose low drone count is crippling to the production of anything more than handfuls of zerglings. Yes, there may be a followup, but between players of equal skill levels and equal numbers of arms a failed all-in is a failed game. Keep in mind that by definition an all-in can occur in the late-game.


Realistically, good players can recognize a self-improvement thread over a look-I-learn-these-word-now-I-can-sound-like-SC2-playur attention-grabbers. So before you make that thread, stop and think: How can I purposefully avoid the buzzwords, be taken seriously, and get responses from people who are not my own level with similar problems? Good luck and have fun out there guys.

P.S. Metagame metagame metagame.
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
Gamer0ne
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria51 Posts
May 22 2010 23:54 GMT
#2
Add more terms imo.Those are pretty obvious and well-known.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
May 22 2010 23:55 GMT
#3
great post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
May 22 2010 23:56 GMT
#4
Watch out for chills banhammer using the word metagame that much lol.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 22 2010 23:57 GMT
#5
Do you mean... the old Gold or the New Gold (being the old Silver?)
Just curious.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
May 22 2010 23:57 GMT
#6
Feel free to recommend more terms and I'll edit them in.
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
Razamataz
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada135 Posts
May 22 2010 23:58 GMT
#7
I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this, but I loathe the term "metagame". As far as i am concerned it is not even a real word.
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
May 22 2010 23:59 GMT
#8
proxy stuff and cheesing could be added maybe
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Lawls
Profile Joined May 2010
United States20 Posts
May 22 2010 23:59 GMT
#9
Thanks for enlightening me on what the metagame was.
Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:04:58
May 23 2010 00:00 GMT
#10
Please add "Refuted" a term used to attack build orders that were once considered viable but have a fatal flaw that makes them either too risky or worthless in competitive play.

Cheese: A term used to describe a build that is extremely risky to the point that if you fail at your attack you will almost certainly lose the game and might as well gg immediately because you will be behind in either tech or economy. There is a very fine line between cheesing and a good early rush, so please take care when you call a good strategy cheesing. If they still have a decent chance of winning even if the rush completely fails it is not cheese.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
May 23 2010 00:00 GMT
#11
This seems like a good a place to ask as any. What does kiting mean? It's something I never came across in bw or really anywhere else and I just started hearing about it all the time suddenly.
rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
May 23 2010 00:01 GMT
#12
Is there an acronym glossary? That wouldnt be too bad of an idea, I know that the liquidpedia has quite a few, but has anyone consolidated it all together?
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:02:05
May 23 2010 00:01 GMT
#13
A FE build into a dual Rax push is totally a viable way to deal with the IMBA of Immortals, because you get better Macro AND a timing attack in before the first one can get out. It's a great way to throw of their Metagame...

Am I doing this right?
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:02:29
May 23 2010 00:02 GMT
#14
people who try to skip the first syllable of new units in effort to try to make the new "goon", "lot" or "rine" (I hate all of them by the way).

When I see some people say rauders, I facepalm to tears.
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
baeracaed
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States604 Posts
May 23 2010 00:03 GMT
#15
Funny threead. ^-^

BTW meta-analysis is not something new to SC.
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hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
May 23 2010 00:03 GMT
#16
On May 23 2010 09:00 Bibbit wrote:
This seems like a good a place to ask as any. What does kiting mean? It's something I never came across in bw or really anywhere else and I just started hearing about it all the time suddenly.


I'll use the marauder as an example. Basically you attack with the marauder run away attack, repeat. Just a way to damage melee units as range without getting hit too much.
"It's not acceptable"
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
May 23 2010 00:06 GMT
#17
I definitely do NOT think that using Imbalanced/Imba/OP makes you sound smart.. for me personally it has the opposite effect.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
May 23 2010 00:07 GMT
#18
On May 23 2010 09:01 rbkl wrote:
Is there an acronym glossary? That wouldnt be too bad of an idea, I know that the liquidpedia has quite a few, but has anyone consolidated it all together?


Here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=61389
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 00:08:05
May 23 2010 00:07 GMT
#19
On May 23 2010 09:02 Shade692003 wrote:
people who try to skip the first syllable of new units in effort to try to make the new "goon", "lot" or "rine" (I hate all of them by the way).

When I see some people say rauders, I facepalm to tears.


There was a speck of dust on my screen and I thought you said "geon"... I was wracking my brain, couldn't think of any units. Then I scrolled down a line.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 23 2010 00:20 GMT
#20
On May 23 2010 09:01 cursor wrote:
A FE build into a dual Rax push is totally a viable way to deal with the IMBA of Immortals, because you get better Macro AND a timing attack in before the first one can get out. It's a great way to throw of their Metagame...

Am I doing this right?

You forgot to hate on dts. Other than that it looks good.
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