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I just wanted to post a survey to see if people would actually boycott this game IF blizzard decides to go to release with the same format they have now for the social aspect of the game. I.E. no channels, you must have emails to add people unless you play them in a game. So here it is, please vote!
Poll: Would You Boycott SC2?I would still buy the game and continuously complain over the social aspect and lack of privacy. (390) 51% I would boycott SC2 if they launched with the current social aspect (190) 25% I would buy SC2 regardless of the social aspect (188) 24% 768 total votes Your vote: Would You Boycott SC2? (Vote): I would boycott SC2 if they launched with the current social aspect
(Vote): I would still buy the game and continuously complain over the social aspect and lack of privacy.
(Vote): I would buy SC2 regardless of the social aspect
EDIT: Umm so i am reading some of the posts people are writing and i just wanna make it clear this is not saying blizzard will release the game with this kind of social aspect. I am saying that IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF blizzard releases it like how it currently is what would you do. I am pretty sure I just read somewhere that blizzard has done this on purpose in order to force our hand into testing the real ID friends and the facebook feature, but will be using identifiers hopefully again in the second phase of testing. But lets face it most of us would probably ignore the facebook feature if we can just add with identifiers.
-LimeNade
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I voted for buying the game regardless.
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I would buy it, there's not enough solid competition in the RTS market for me to boycott :/ (I don't wanna play BW). I'm weak like that.
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You don't have to only add people's emails. You can add them by right clicking their icon and selecting 'add friend.' Works for friends of friends, also.
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Personally don't care about the "social aspect" I'm not even sure what that means.
Already bought my copy.
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I wouldn't buy it. Screw that!
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it just feels so wrong imo to promote a product from a company we have been so faithful to over the years and it really just feels like all they care about is money probably which facebook gave a lot of in order to have this done so. Either way i could be completely wrong and blizzard will listen to the outcry of its loyal fans, which would be awesome, so just keep on voting and hopefully something will happen heh
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LOL, no ones gonna boycott SC2. This is like those stupid kids who want dedicated servers or something for MW2 and they all claimed they were going to boycott and then bam on release day they all bought and played it.
Suck. It. Up. Its already clear that the community disapproves of aspects of SC2 right now, that was made clear in kennigits thread. Stop making stupid whine threads like this.
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How is this a decline of privacy? If anything it's an increase in privacy and a decrease in ease of use, no?
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im not asking for a whine thread, i just want to see a public opinion on how extreme people would actually go over this, i on the other hand would buy it regardless and just complain but im curious to see if people would actually give up SC2 just cause of this
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On May 23 2010 02:59 flx! wrote:
How is this a decline of privacy? If anything it's an increase in privacy and a decrease in ease of use, no?
well I mean basically now if u ever want to apply for at tournament you'll never be known as your name, everyone will have access to your email address and real name if the sign ups are made public, I.E. in gosucoaching you gotta list your name on the website to be signed up, now which will seem to be your email address which some troll who may have beef with you can now go ahead and spam your email non stop if they really want to lol
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I am still buying the game regardless of Bnet 2.0 not having channels as of right now. That being said I still find it completely necessary for Blizzard to implement channels for the actual game once it's released. Chatting, gaining friends through the game itself, and calling people out was so much fun in BW.
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On May 23 2010 02:58 m3rciless wrote:
LOL, no ones gonna boycott SC2. This is like those stupid kids who want dedicated servers or something for MW2 and they all claimed they were going to boycott and then bam on release day they all bought and played it.
Suck. It. Up. Its already clear that the community disapproves of aspects of SC2 right now, that was made clear in kennigits thread. Stop making stupid whine threads like this.
This is a terrible post.
The world doesn't come down to boycott and Suck. It. Up. It's perfectly reasonable for people to voice their opinions and try to get change to happen.
Also a bunch of people DID pass on MW2 because of lack of dedicated servers. Just because a bunch of whiny kids said they would then didn't doesn't mean that no one passed on the game. I, for example, skipped out on MW2 because of a lack of dedicated servers. I didn't sign any petition or anything like that. I just voted with my wallet and didn't pick up the game.
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Im perfectly fine with BW so I picked boycott ^^
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I find no reason to answer this poll because there is no way the scenario in question is going to happen. It is like asking would you boycott sc2 if they removed all races but zerg. Clearly there is functionality that has not been implemented yet because it is beta and there is no point in implementing it, then there is bugs and finally there is stuff that will be added now that they take down bnet 2.0 in a week to do work on the infrastructure.
Relax, sit back and have cup of coffee and have faith in the fact that no game developer is stupid enough to launch a huge community game with lacking social structure.
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personally i don't care, but i can see how it piss people off. I just hate how anti social the game is in its current form. You can't F add anyone unless you already have their email, and there no channels to meet anyone. How the hell are you supposed to ever meet anyone on bnet2?
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On May 23 2010 02:58 m3rciless wrote:
LOL, no ones gonna boycott SC2. This is like those stupid kids who want dedicated servers or something for MW2 and they all claimed they were going to boycott and then bam on release day they all bought and played it.
Suck. It. Up. Its already clear that the community disapproves of aspects of SC2 right now, that was made clear in kennigits thread. Stop making stupid whine threads like this.
![[image loading]](http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/31345-find_offensive_people_use_word_retarded_discribre_something_lame_stupid.jpg)
Whining about whine just adds to the situation, no?
Go. A. Way. : P
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I'm really considering not to buy SC2. I'm also really worried about the fact blizzard have my real name on my account. Considering how serious they are managing the « social » part of bnet, I think I shouldn't gave them these data.
Moreover, the lack of LAN, the fact that some basic mecanisms are broken (like micro of many units), the need to log in before being able to do anything, etc . . . This is pretty scarry.
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No one ever said you had to give them your real name.
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pretty sure theyll change it back to normal id adding
and just want people to start using facebook to test it out and see if it actually works
but if im wrong in that case:
but yeah its stupid imo, might as well add everyone as real ID and give them your info and cc details
edit; took out unnecessary quote
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On May 23 2010 03:11 DrSmoke wrote:
No one ever said you had to give them your real name.
Actually, I trusted them. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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The way the balance is going, and how horrible bnet 2.0 is, I am pretty sure I am boycotting.
This game wont become the next esport game.. hell, RTS as a genre is pretty much dead now after BW/War3. SC2 had the potential in early beta but now its clear Blizzard just wants casuals to play it, with all the buffs to terran (the casual newb race) and social features.
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Blizzard cares less and less about it's supporters... it's sad. For the past 10 years I've been playing almost exclusively Blizzard games (sc:bw, diablo 2, wc3) and now they don't really give a damn about what the fans ask... I'm seriously pissed of with the last updates, specially this facebook thingy. I won't buy Starcraft2 if it has this kind of ridiculousness in it! Do they care? No, because there are thousands who will, even if they hate this as much as I do.
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Guys i'm pretty sure they already announced channels upon release....
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On May 23 2010 03:18 TelecOm1 wrote:
Guys i'm pretty sure they already announced channels upon release....
I wasn't going to say it (no one ever listens) but I have read that also.
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On May 23 2010 03:18 TelecOm1 wrote:
Guys i'm pretty sure they already announced channels upon release....
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be so sure.
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Buying it, but i'm going to loudly whine and complain about everything i don't like of course :D
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On May 23 2010 03:14 Skyze wrote:
its clear Blizzard just wants casuals to play it, with all the buffs to terran (the casual newb race)
Seriously? Skipping the whole social thing, you are way too paranoid if you really think this. Stop pretending that everything Blizzard does is an attack against you, they're a game company that makes mistakes just like every other game company. I'm starting to think that people just want something to hate on; anything they don't like, it's the casuals' fault.
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On May 23 2010 03:11 DrSmoke wrote:
No one ever said you had to give them your real name.
You break the rules if you use a fake name. If your account gets hacked you are not getting it back without your real name. That they then publish it in game is a bit strange.
I can't vote since I don't think the game deserves money in its current state. I am in the group that is playing while it is free.
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I mind that, but not enough to NOT buy a friggin game of a decade, i mean... COME ON!
also this thread gave me a left4dead2 flashback... gamers-boycotters generate lots of lulz sure, but remember that this is blizzard, i don't think we need to go into such extremes as boycott, a shitload of whining should do the job.
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SC2 just hasn't got that social aspect which completes so many games.
At the state is currently in, i wouldn't buy it.
I'd only buy if i knew it had been improved quite a bit upon release.
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I will be making a new blizzard account for my SC2 key and this time I won't use my real name and regular e-mail. I won't boycott and I probably won't even have the energy to continously complain.
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On May 23 2010 03:18 TelecOm1 wrote:
Guys i'm pretty sure they already announced channels upon release....
Yeah. Well I am not sure if they have said specifically at release but they have definitely said that they ARE making chat channels. However pointing stuff like that out on these forums usually does no good because people just simply filters minor details like that out when whining.
Also, your real name is ONLY shown when you add someone as real life friend. That is why you can have in-game buddies and real life buddies. If it is a problem to you that your real life friends know your real name then either you should perhaps get checked up for clinical paranoia or you should just add people as in game buddies instead.
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[I'm starting to think that people just want something to hate on;
Actually no (at least for me). But I'm waiting for this game for more than 10 years now, so I have a quite high level of expectation.
And I'm pretty sure many people here are not just complaining because they are paranoid, but for a similar reason.
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I'd make an account with fake information. Simple as that.
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Also, your real name is ONLY shown when you add someone as real life friend. That is why you can have in-game buddies and real life buddies. If it is a problem to you that your real life friends know your real name then either you should perhaps get checked up for clinical paranoia or you should just add people as in game buddies instead.
Maybe I could think that who's my real game friend isn't blizzard's business and I'm concerned about my privacy.
This isn't clinical paranoia.
However, ask for everybody to register on they're server to play any game is a paranoid behavior (even to play solo, or in « LAN »). And I really cannot trust a firm with such a paranoid behavior.
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I will just make a dedicated email box/facebook profile for sc2 if they keep it the way it is.
it is seriously dificult to keep contact with cool people you met in game tho hopefully they change it
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So far, 74 people have lied and claimed they wont buy the game if it stays they way it is, lets see how many it could get up to.
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On May 23 2010 06:01 deadalnix wrote:
And I'm pretty sure many people here are not just complaining because they are paranoid, mais for a similar reason.
I wasn't talking about the social aspects of the game, or about the game itself. Your quoting one phrase out of my post that wasn't even about the same thing doesn't help convince me that you're not overreacting.
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On May 23 2010 06:08 Catch]22 wrote:
So far, 74 people have lied and claimed they wont buy the game if it stays they way it is, lets see how many it could get up to.
nope sry, we didn't lie. i, for one, will just go back to eve-online and wait a year or two until SC2 and all two expansions cost <50€ in a bundle. that's how bad this is. -.-
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On May 23 2010 06:11 roemy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 06:08 Catch]22 wrote:
So far, 74 people have lied and claimed they wont buy the game if it stays they way it is, lets see how many it could get up to. nope sry, we didn't lie. i, for one, will just go back to eve-online and wait a year or two until SC2 and all two expansions cost <50€ in a bundle. that's how bad this is. -.-
Actually, you won't. Because it isn't that big of a deal.
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On May 23 2010 06:11 roemy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 06:08 Catch]22 wrote:
So far, 74 people have lied and claimed they wont buy the game if it stays they way it is, lets see how many it could get up to. nope sry, we didn't lie. i, for one, will just go back to eve-online and wait a year or two until SC2 and all two expansions cost <50€ in a bundle. that's how bad this is. -.-
A year or 2? LOL, dont expect the second expansion before 2014.
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There's only a matter of time until there's no privacy left. And when that happens, all the people that posted about how people who are really unhappy and don't care, and etc. will either continue to not care, or become extremely agitated. Some of the posts in this thread that claim people are lying about how they feel or if they would purchase this game in the current condition, should really take a strong close look at what your options are for social networking inside and out of this game, and re-examine their true opinion. Instead of just saying, 'it doesn't matter who cares,'
Luckily there are some measures people can take while giving out friend requests and facebook with the list in the current condition b.net 2.0 is providing as an environment, but there isn't as much as there should be.
Aside from the fact that Facebook really shouldn't be in the prime equation for networking inside of a game from the start.
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I am tired of seeing this community acting like spoiled stepchildren. What a manipulative, bratty notion - "boycotting blizz". Retarded. This thread needs to be closed and the mods need to put a ban on incessant bitching.
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Not that excited for release, and I can't get any irl friends to play sc2 with me so I don't want to ladder with nameless strangers on bnet 2.0
voted not buying.. I'll decide after it comes out if I want to buy it but I'm not going to preorder it or anything
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Alot of socialising going on at the streamers chat; so thats where I get my fill. I will buy (have already) the game either way, but im sure they will have chatlobbys implemented at releast. Anything else would be fail of epic proportions.
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I'd buy it, add my "close" friends and just play the ladder... It wouldn't bother me a bit in the way I'm going to play the game, but I can understand people complaining atm :/
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As soon as Activision bought Blizzard I knew this was going to happen. Activision is known for milking every dime out of the consumer that they can and compromising game quality to do so. Take a look at MW2 ($15 map packs, no dedicated servers for PC, etc).
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It's the same thing with no lan. Most people will threaten to not buy because of it, but they will wind up purchasing the game at launch regardless.
Then they will threaten to not buy the expansions and the cycle will continue.
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On May 23 2010 07:02 iEchoic wrote:
As soon as Activision bought Blizzard I knew this was going to happen. Activision is known for milking every dime out of the consumer that they can and compromising game quality to do so. Take a look at MW2 ($15 map packs, no dedicated servers for PC, etc).
also weekly steam lowering the price of that game seen it go for 10e if bought on steam during some special weekend. rly hope SC2 wont end up like that all hyped up and just thrown away money 2months after release
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i hate people, so the social aspect doesn't matter at all to me
single-player for the win
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since activison accquired blizzard , they have been acting like idiots . Trying to milk the games in every possible way.
If you play world of warcraft you can see some awesome casual changes for the next expansion and selling things like mount in-game,wont be long before they start to sell gear and now the remote AH for 2-3$ a month.
I wont be surprised if blizzard removes the identifier and just add the email/facebook feature so this way people would make use of it hence they earn more and more but ignoring the most important aspect of the game.
I will buy the game regardless of this but i am still against this
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I don't like the whole social integration deal, but again, I want to enjoy sc2 and will probably never use the feature so I'm buying the game. I do consider they are focusing on less important things or at least, things that I expected to see way before facebook are still missing.
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Whatever the case, 27% people considering boycotting and another 45% complaining is A LOT. Even if nobody ends up boycotting (as I do believe only about 1/10 of those who voted it will, at max), this is the kind of thing that makes the company gradatively lose its points amongst fans.
If channels have been announced I'm good with it, though.
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On May 23 2010 07:02 iEchoic wrote:
As soon as Activision bought Blizzard I knew this was going to happen. Activision is known for milking every dime out of the consumer that they can and compromising game quality to do so. Take a look at MW2 ($15 map packs, no dedicated servers for PC, etc).
Indeed.
Kotick responded not by addressing any of the games by name, but by talking about Activision’s publishing philosophy. The games Activision Blizzard didn't pick up, he said, "don't have the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential and have the potential to become $100 million franchises. … I think, generally, our strategy has been to focus… on the products that have those attributes and characteristics, the products that we know [that] if we release them today, we'll be working on them 10 years from now."
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Nobody answered me yet, the fuck can somebody do with your name that's so perverse? We know most of the well known players' names anyway, did we put a spell on them or something?
Greg Fields
Nick Plott
Sean Plott
Dan Stemkoski
There you have it, we know their names OHNOEZ!!!! What's wrong with people knowing yours? What they can do anyway? Spread bad publicity on their internet blogs? -_-'
This Privacy complaint is ridiculous it's like knowing your name allows people to see your cc number...
Now sure, the system's sucking at the moment and we need lots of fixes but seriously, I don't get the whole "Privacy" thing.
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On May 23 2010 11:12 Auronz wrote:
Nobody answered me yet, the fuck can somebody do with your name that's so perverse? We know most of the well known players' names anyway, did we put a spell on them or something?
Greg Fields
Nick Plott
Sean Plott
Dan Stemkoski
There you have it, we know their names OHNOEZ!!!! What's wrong with people knowing yours? What they can do anyway? Spread bad publicity on their internet blogs? -_-'
This Privacy complaint is ridiculous it's like knowing your name allows people to see your cc number...
Now sure, the system's sucking at the moment and we need lots of fixes but seriously, I don't get the whole "Privacy" thing.
Not everyone who plays sc1 is a college or high school kid. A lot of professionals play too and don't want to reveal information. And yes even when I was in college I wouldn't want every single person on my friends list to know my real name... because they also in passing know about your job where you live usually etc. Spiteful people can do very bad things when they know your info.
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I'd like to say that people who say they'd boycott most likely wouldn't in practice. =)
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On May 23 2010 03:02 Limenade wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 02:59 flx! wrote:
How is this a decline of privacy? If anything it's an increase in privacy and a decrease in ease of use, no? well I mean basically now if u ever want to apply for at tournament you'll never be known as your name, everyone will have access to your email address and real name if the sign ups are made public, I.E. in gosucoaching you gotta list your name on the website to be signed up, now which will seem to be your email address which some troll who may have beef with you can now go ahead and spam your email non stop if they really want to lol
If spammers really wanted your email they'd probably have via other methods rather than a starcraft 2 tourny.
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i'll buy the game regardless.
it's still too awesome O_O
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I don't see what this fuss is about, you don't have to log into facebook.
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On May 23 2010 11:12 Auronz wrote:
Nobody answered me yet, the fuck can somebody do with your name that's so perverse? We know most of the well known players' names anyway, did we put a spell on them or something?
Greg Fields
Nick Plott
Sean Plott
Dan Stemkoski
There you have it, we know their names OHNOEZ!!!! What's wrong with people knowing yours? What they can do anyway? Spread bad publicity on their internet blogs? -_-'
This Privacy complaint is ridiculous it's like knowing your name allows people to see your cc number...
Now sure, the system's sucking at the moment and we need lots of fixes but seriously, I don't get the whole "Privacy" thing.
You are ignorant and don't deserve the privilege of privacy. What is your name and where do you live?
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I'd buy the game even if things don't improve,'cause it adds more reason to play the campaign without worrying about B.NET
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On May 23 2010 03:11 DrSmoke wrote:
No one ever said you had to give them your real name.
Yeah... gl with that. If you are using a fake name or address and there is a problem with your account (eg hacked or your assigned email address is no longer accessible) you have to fax blizzard your licence. If you are using fake details bad luck.
I personally will just make a second Facebook account which I use only for battle.net if I need to.
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On May 23 2010 03:02 cloudJR wrote:
I am still buying the game regardless of Bnet 2.0 not having channels as of right now. That being said I still find it completely necessary for Blizzard to implement channels for the actual game once it's released. Chatting, gaining friends through the game itself, and calling people out was so much fun in BW.
Actually all my friends boycotted MW2 CPU and opted for the Xbox Live version.
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On May 23 2010 11:32 zJayy962 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 03:02 cloudJR wrote:
I am still buying the game regardless of Bnet 2.0 not having channels as of right now. That being said I still find it completely necessary for Blizzard to implement channels for the actual game once it's released. Chatting, gaining friends through the game itself, and calling people out was so much fun in BW. Actually all my friends boycotted MW2 CPU and opted for the Xbox Live version.
The more expensive version? Great boycott, dumbass.
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It's a beta. Blizzard will fix it. Relax.
Everyone seems to get into this "the sky is falling" whenever Blizzard changes things, including things we ask them to do.
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On May 23 2010 11:35 HalfAmazing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 11:32 zJayy962 wrote:On May 23 2010 03:02 cloudJR wrote:
I am still buying the game regardless of Bnet 2.0 not having channels as of right now. That being said I still find it completely necessary for Blizzard to implement channels for the actual game once it's released. Chatting, gaining friends through the game itself, and calling people out was so much fun in BW. Actually all my friends boycotted MW2 CPU and opted for the Xbox Live version. The more expensive version? Great boycott, dumbass.
was it more than $60 on xbox360?
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On May 23 2010 11:37 Fraud wrote:
It's a beta. Blizzard will fix it. Relax.
Everyone seems to get into this "the sky is falling" whenever Blizzard changes things, including things we ask them to do.
They have two months to fix every wrong aspect of the game. I'm surprised there are some people who aren't the slightest bit worried about how many things they don't like about sc2 at this point in time.
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I REALLY want to support Blizzard in most of their business adventures, but i SIMPLY cannot allow this blatant act of privacy breach to be "ok". They have to know its not okay to be able to just add people I know from high school that play this game because of facebook integration. While I don't even CARE about that too much, it's just weird that I have to give so many people I just met (while they are VERY nice and cool people) too much information about me.
I just also hate what they are trying to do. I saw in a thread someone said that they are giving us things to test and that the full version will come with what we've been asking. I'd like to believe that but Blizzard said that chat channels and LAN will not be into play come retail, so its hard to believe. Yeah I want to test things for Blizz, yes I would love to be apart of their communities and all their games, but this is just a lot of NOTHING they are giving us, telling us its something. Plus, when it comes to Blizzard in my experience beta testing for them, once they make up their mind....They are pretty set on it, or something like it at least.
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I will probably buy the game regardless, for single player if nothing else.
Personally, as long as I can play SC2 without touching facebook I am happy (even if I can not access all chat functions).
IMHO if I use some free system like FB than of course I accept I do not own the data ie the data can be sold to marketing etc. But if I pay for a game, then it is my data. Generally speaking data protection laws are probably guaranteeing this partly in Sweden already, but anyway that is my point of view.
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If you are adding people of your own free will to your email as "real friends" instead of merely character friends, you are choosing to allow them to see your facebook page - so again, how is this a breach of privacy? Anyway, go read blizzards official statement on this. It dispels all the worries in this thread.
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I will make an obvious fake identity for this ... the problem applies to all the social networks and it is only the first step towards the eventual Matrix, where everything about us is stored on the internet.
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On May 23 2010 03:11 DrSmoke wrote:
No one ever said you had to give them your real name.
This. There is no lack of privacy whatsoever. It is what you make it to be. If you want to use your primary email address with your real name, go for it. You can just as easily make a spoof email with a fake name.
Blizzard is just seeing how different things are working in the beta. We really don't know what kind of system they are going to use for the retail release. I am glad they are doing this, because it gives them a clear idea for what works and what does not.
However, I do hope Blizzard has the clarity to gauge the public's reaction & make appropriate responses.
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I'm not buying this if everyone who knows someone I know can see my email address. Not only do I not want everyone having it, it seems incredibly dumb for them to just let anyone see half of your login info.
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On May 23 2010 11:12 Auronz wrote:
Nobody answered me yet, the fuck can somebody do with your name that's so perverse? We know most of the well known players' names anyway, did we put a spell on them or something?
Greg Fields
Nick Plott
Sean Plott
Dan Stemkoski
There you have it, we know their names OHNOEZ!!!! What's wrong with people knowing yours? What they can do anyway? Spread bad publicity on their internet blogs? -_-'
This Privacy complaint is ridiculous it's like knowing your name allows people to see your cc number...
Now sure, the system's sucking at the moment and we need lots of fixes but seriously, I don't get the whole "Privacy" thing.
I think you're missing the point. It's not that knowing people's names is a security risk, it's that a lot of people out there use games to take a break from their real lives and actually don't want their gaming IDs and real lives to overlap.
I'm personally fine with people knowing my name, but if I was a high profile lawyer or the president of the united states or something I wouldn't particularly want people to know that I played Starcraft for 3 hours a day, and I wouldn't want people in game to know who I was outside of the game.
If I make a phone call or write a letter to someone or talk to strangers in a bar I can choose not to reveal my real name, I believe the same right to anonymity should be present in a video game as well.
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How is people knowing your name a privacy issue? There are probably hundreds of people out there that share your name. I have a pretty unique name (for living in Sweden anyway) and I couldn't care less if a person knows my real name. It doesn't affect me in any way.
What are they going to do with your name? Look you up to try and find out where you live so they can come and beat you up because you raped them or BM'ed them in a game? Come on.
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It really isn't that big a deal.
So what if friends on your Facebook can add you on SC2?
It's like not people can directly access your facebook profile via SC2, unless they already knew who you are in the first place.
I'm not a fan of Facebook's privacy policy, but seriously guys, you're making a big fuss over nothing.
And so what if someone knows your name? Your name is not something like your SSN, or your PIN.
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Except there are enough fairly unique names that you can google someone and find out way more about their life than some random person on the Internet should.
Secondly, your email address is also your login name. There goes half your account security.
The whole reason it's called real-ID friends is because you're supposed to actually know them in real life, where they already know your name. You have almost no choice in the matter right now.
Semi-related, I'd love to be able to disable my name being plastered all over B.net 2.0. It's bad enough having to give out your name and email to your Internet friends, but anyone can get your name and email during a stream. A check box to hide all personal information (and change login name to asterisks), would be fantastic.
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On May 23 2010 11:31 DeCoup wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2010 03:11 DrSmoke wrote:
No one ever said you had to give them your real name. Yeah... gl with that. If you are using a fake name or address and there is a problem with your account (eg hacked or your assigned email address is no longer accessible) you have to fax blizzard your licence. If you are using fake details bad luck. I personally will just make a second Facebook account which I use only for battle.net if I need to.
I didn't know you needed a license to play StarCraft...
I'll just make another account, using whatever name and e-mail address I find suitable, and then complain about it constantly. I really like complaining, after all.
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On May 23 2010 03:06 TLOBrian wrote:
Whining about whine just adds to the situation, no?
Go. A. Way. : P
Whining about whining about whine just... oh, nevermind. ;P
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I use facebook and I play sc2, an integration between the two of them won't hurt me in any way.
Though I prefer the identifiers too, I don't see me adding internet friends to my facebook friend list because I want to add them to my sc2 friend list.
No, I don't think I would boycott the game, it depends on what my real-life friends do.
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I'm staying away from it. Blizzard is in it for the money, not for the love of games or gamers. They should change their name to EA-2 and pump out a new Starcraft every year. BW works just fine for me.
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On May 23 2010 17:13 Craton wrote:
Except there are enough fairly unique names that you can google someone and find out way more about their life than some random person on the Internet should.
Secondly, your email address is also your login name. There goes half your account security.
This and this. Not playing any games until this changes. Which yeah, could mean a long time.
Sure I can set up a Blizzard account with a fake name (I'm sure they'll love that) which would mitigate a lot of my complaints, but it does nothing for point 2.
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Sure I can set up a Blizzard account with a fake name (I'm sure they'll love that) which would mitigate a lot of my complaints, but it does nothing for point 2.
Using a fake name is against the TOS. It is literally against the rules for you to access the Battle.Net servers through SC2 without using your real name. If you do so, you may legally be kicked/banned/have your account revoked without any legal means of defense.
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I don't mind the facebook thing, what I mind is being forced to use it by the removal of identifiers.
I'll buy the game and cry 
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boycotting doesn't mean we're not gonna play it :D
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On May 23 2010 02:58 m3rciless wrote:
LOL, no ones gonna boycott SC2. This is like those stupid kids who want dedicated servers or something for MW2 and they all claimed they were going to boycott and then bam on release day they all bought and played it.
Suck. It. Up. Its already clear that the community disapproves of aspects of SC2 right now, that was made clear in kennigits thread. Stop making stupid whine threads like this.
I was one of those people wanting dedicated, and guess what, I have learned my lesson. I will never ever buy another CoD game, and it will literally take a miracle for them to gain MY trust with another of their game ever again.
So if SC2 fails at start, and I dont see progress, I will NOT buy their 2 next expansions, simply because I have lost all faith in Blizzard. A company with such a great rumour can be destroyed, and gaining our trust again will be very hard.
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If they forced me to get facebook, I'd boycott. But I think I'll still buy SC2 with the current friend system. Primarily because I expect them to fix it. I'm confident they're not going to leave things the way they are. Blizzard's the creator of WoW... they MUST appreciate how important easy communication between gamers is for online gaming.
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On May 23 2010 19:12 Prometheus2011 wrote:Show nested quote +
Sure I can set up a Blizzard account with a fake name (I'm sure they'll love that) which would mitigate a lot of my complaints, but it does nothing for point 2.
Using a fake name is against the TOS. It is literally against the rules for you to access the Battle.Net servers through SC2 without using your real name. If you do so, you may legally be kicked/banned/have your account revoked without any legal means of defense.
MamiyaOtaru wrote:
(I'm sure they'll love that)
hi there maybe you noticed some of my sarcastic understatement
Which leaves me with "Not playing any games until this changes."
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I'd buy it, then I'd go play on a private server. I'd buy it because I respect the work that went into making the actual game. I'd play on private servers because the people who made battle.net 2.0 don't know what the fuck they are doing.
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Well technically i already bought the game...
But honestly being on battle.net 2.0 is like being in a wasteland for me. Cold, dreary, and lonely.
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Pfft Starcraft 2 is a crapton o' fun. The difficulty behind adding friends is rather minor, even in general. And I'm certainly not going to miss out on the awsomeness of the game just to send Blizzard a message they have already received 80,000 times.
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On May 23 2010 16:32 SolHeiM wrote:
How is people knowing your name a privacy issue? There are probably hundreds of people out there that share your name. I have a pretty unique name (for living in Sweden anyway) and I couldn't care less if a person knows my real name. It doesn't affect me in any way.
What are they going to do with your name? Look you up to try and find out where you live so they can come and beat you up because you raped them or BM'ed them in a game? Come on.
It's funny to see how people reverse the logic in this kind of situation. People concerned by theyre privacy have to justify themselves. Actually, giving a real name isn't related at all with playing to a game like starcraft 2. Giving information to blizzard about who's your real friends or not isn't related at all with playing a game like SC2.
I know how things work in sweden, with unique ID. I know how it make many things way simpler. I also know that is you implement the same system in France, it would just be a nighmare. Because the culture of these 2 country is different and people will not react the same way. And france is a democratic country.
People may have so many reason to not give theyre name and not wanted to tel who are their real friends are to a compagny simply to play a videogame. Actually, you are reversing the question.
The problem isn't « What's wrong with giving my name » but « what's wrong with not giving my name ? ».
We have a tournament we organize between french people on another forum. We had to cancel the season 4 because so many player didn't want to give tey're real names. This is already an issue.
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If you're worried about your privacy, don't use facebook and set up an email account just for playing battle.net games. Most privacy conscious people don't use facebook anyways because it's obvious that facebook cares more about advertisers than it's customers. Also, creating an extra email account to give out to people for adding you as a friend is like a 2 minute fix. I would suggest having a couple of different email accounts for your private use and public use across the internet anyways.
If you really really want this kind of thing to stop, STOP USING FACEBOOK. Tell your friends and family to stop using facebook. It's a horribly unprivate place and so long as people keep using it, other companies will keep integrating it.
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I'd buy it, then I'd go play on a private server. I'd buy it because I respect the work that went into making the actual game. I'd play on private servers because the people who made battle.net 2.0 don't know what the fuck they are doing.
prety much wins the thread imo, hope iccup will get a SC2 client.
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On May 23 2010 21:42 4Servy wrote:Show nested quote +I'd buy it, then I'd go play on a private server. I'd buy it because I respect the work that went into making the actual game. I'd play on private servers because the people who made battle.net 2.0 don't know what the fuck they are doing. prety much wins the thread imo, hope iccup will get a SC2 client.
There is no chance that Blizzard will allow a public 3rd party server within the next 5 years. Don't get your hopes up.
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There's no difference between your two buy options, you're still buying it regardless even if you complain about it.
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And even if you would, who cares? Names can be taken off the street, and in a massive database you shouldn't ever think anyone would care. Your just a number, enjoy the game.
Even if they removed the multiplayer, I'd still buy it for the singleplayer and it's awesome CGI.
I should quote more.. I posted this when that french guy post was the last one.
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lol I thought it said the decline of piracy first.... i was like.. eh.. wut? never. :D
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On May 23 2010 20:26 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'd buy it, then I'd go play on a private server. I'd buy it because I respect the work that went into making the actual game. I'd play on private servers because the people who made battle.net 2.0 don't know what the fuck they are doing.
Yeah, that would be nice, but it won't happen.
It's clear that blizzard wants to reign supreme with bnet 2, that's why there is no Lan mode to prevent things like Garena, and If there will be an actual online private server, blizzard will probably shut it down immediately.
It's sad, really. The game has so much potential and it gets ruined because of the infrastructure.
Like 60€ a game isn't enough, they feel the need to keep control over what we can do.
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On May 23 2010 22:25 XGDragon wrote:
And even if you would, who cares? Names can be taken off the street, and in a massive database you shouldn't ever think anyone would care. Your just a number, enjoy the game.
You know what french people notice the more when they come to netherland ? (yes ok, legal drugs, but let put this out of this reflexion :D). The fact that you have nothing on your window to hide the inside of houses.
If you tell french people to do this, it would be a huge scandal. TV or newspaper will probably make some news about even if it's just an isolated case. And remeber that france is a democratic country (Obviously the problem will become way bigger in contry like tunisia where bloggers sometime disapears).
I'm really amazed that people just don't get how the situation can be different and how many reasons you can have to not share your real name on a video game. And very few actually considers that giving a name to play a video game is just useless.
So even if it matter for 1 person out of 10 milions, this should logically be avoided.
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