EPTMaybe I don't agree with any of those choices at all?
platinum isn't that good? - Page 3
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micronesia
United States24770 Posts
Maybe I don't agree with any of those choices at all? | ||
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ColorsOfRainbow
Germany354 Posts
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olof
Sweden254 Posts
I'd also like to remind you that Blizzard generally isn't that good at the whole competetive ladder thing. They managed to pretty much destroy it in Wc3 with their 1.14 patch. After ten games you could face progamers, but the top10 of the ladder was the players that played the most games. (read up on ELL or whatever they called it if you're interested) | ||
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Mr.E
United States434 Posts
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Rekiv
Great Britain27 Posts
Option 2 could be just having the platinum leagues consist of only 20 players instead of 50 or 100 (can't remember what the max per league is) | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
Like Plat is top 10% Gold is the next 20% Silver is the next 30% Copper and Bronze are the remaining? | ||
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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:31 ColorsOfRainbow wrote: just LESS players in platin this will never work because of how the placement matches are structured. the solution is either to add another rank or change the structure of how you are placed via placement matches. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:34 Rotodyne wrote: Should the leagues just be based on percentage? Like Plat is top 10% Gold is the next 20% Silver is the next 30% Copper and Bronze are the remaining? Plat should be top 5% at most. | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
I agree | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
Blizzard must implement this now. | ||
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
Plat should be top 5% at most. Depends on the general SC population. A top 0.5% in WoW for example, simply means you're not retarded. But I do agree the skill variation from bottom plat to top plat is probably bigger than copper to gold. | ||
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DuneBug
United States668 Posts
When I did my placement matches later even if I went 5-0 i'd end up in silver or gold. Some of it might depend on the opponents... Obviously if you placement match against 5 copper/bronze/silver players your score's not going to be very good. But i'd also agree that you shouldn't be placed into platinum, but I also don't think it'd make much difference. Platinum skill seems to equal: I don't die to stupid cheeses, I know what units counter what and proper build orders. That's all you can really ask for from a corporate managed ladder. An invite only ladder might be cool, but who would manage it? Seems like it'd just be automated that if you got to the top echelon of platinum you were moved into the 'pro' ladder. | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
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olof
Sweden254 Posts
I'm not sure if this is official. Someone might be able to help me find it on battle.net. Discussions are held if the Pro league is only invitational and what it will mean. I'm still very suspicious. | ||
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daywiss
United States83 Posts
of course we dont know if thats the way it works now, but i think my friend is in like platinum division 77, which means theres at least 7700 players in platinum out of what, 15000+ active players? thats like half of the players in platinum, if each division has 100 players. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
Data: "Launched in 1998 for PC, the original Starcraft has sold over 11 million copies worldwide, Sams said." (http://www.edge-online.com/news/blizzard-confirms-one-frontline-release-09) Let's assume it sells have that much, so 5.5 million copies worldwide, which would be underselling it, I'd think. Let's say a fifth of those people play enough games to even place in 1v1. That's about 1 million people. The top 5-10% of that is about 50,000-100,000 players in Platinum. That's why it seems like there's so much refuse in Platinum, because there will be. If for no other reason than the people at the bottom will artificially raise people at the top. Copper/bronze being a catch-all for the bottom 50% will be really really uncompetitive. But, yeah, because of just the sheer number of people that'll take up spots in the bottom leagues (even if they go inactive or never play), people will artificially be pushed upwards. Edit: On April 30 2010 02:44 daywiss wrote: if there was a fixed number of platinum divisions that were proportional to total active players, that would make sense. as the population of players increases a new platinum division could be added. of course we dont know if thats the way it works now, but i think my friend is in like platinum division 77, which means theres at least 7700 players in platinum out of what, 15000+ active players? thats like half of the players in platinum, if each division has 100 players. There were 15,000 players listed as active on Battle.net last night when I logged on. I'm not sure if that's just US servers or global. But that's just for last night. Battle.net is pretty saturated with accounts at the moment. And a lot of them are people that play 5 placement matches and then play custom games or just give up. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Honestly I feel like this is something that will be addressed with more players entering. As long as Blizzard has a relatively sane standard for dropping people from leagues and there is a healthy amount of players. That said, not placing directly into Plat is an alright idea even if it just makes Gold the current Plat, if it suits peoples' ideas of having Plat as the highest rank. That said, what is it that the OP is really asking for? Even though the thread started talking about a gap of levels within Plat, people quickly changed that to about the amount of players that should be in Plat. How does that really solve anything? Like the no placement into Plat idea, you are just having other leagues serve as what Plat is currently (apparently), a league with a great gap of skills because you can place in. I can't help but feel that people just want Plat to be more exclusive as to have greater bragging rights to be in Plat. | ||
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Feefee
Canada556 Posts
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
On April 30 2010 02:46 SichuanPanda wrote: I think that a two fold approach should happen. 1 there should be a league above platinum for pro level players, 2 you should never be allowed to place higher than Gold rank. This way the highly skilled players will quickly rank out of gold into Plat or the pro league, and the above average players can populate gold league. I agree with this. In the 5 placement matches I've faced 5 total noobs before and easily got placed in Plat, or facing 1 or 2 very impressive players and got placed in gold. It seems that anyone could very easily be placed in Plat if they got lucky and faced 5 noobs in all 5 matches. | ||
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