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solistus
United States172 Posts
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
Anyone knows how will be possible to get there ? | ||
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
On May 02 2010 04:47 Rabbet wrote: I agree, I did my placement matches and went 2-3. I didn't realize the hotkeys would be so different and it took a few games to figure things out. I haven't played many games but I am going against platinum players right now that are really bad. One protoss tryed to sneak a probe into my base after my scv was already building my depot, then when I killed in his warping pylon he went outside my base to set up a cannon "contain". Only problem was my base had 2 entrances and my scouting scv built a factory in his base. His strategy is a grade 2 strat and there is no chance of success with this in broodwar or sc2. He was ranked ~40 in a platinum division. Hahaha I think we have played the same guy before. I've played probably 5 guys that are in the plat division that just have a gimmick to win. I literally played a guy that tried to 6 pool me and when it failed he immediately quit. | ||
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scott desu
United States34 Posts
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
On May 02 2010 06:09 scott desu wrote: I have this sneaking suspicion that when the game is released and all the people that never got into beta get it, they will flood copper and bronze league and then gold and platinum will feel more like their supposed to. That's exactly what I'm thinking | ||
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insectoceanx
United States331 Posts
What blizzard needs to work on is the favored system(my opponent is always favored) And I think when you are at a low level of points a win or loss streak should move you more quickly between leagues. Say once you've played 15-20 games your position will be more concrete. | ||
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icki.icki
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Kinmaul
United States104 Posts
5-0 placement = plat 4-1 placement = gold 3-2 placement = silver etc... The problem is 4 out of your 5 placement matches are usually against people that have zero clue what they are doing. As long as you have a basic understanding of the game or a canned BO you are going to win 5/5 most of the time. The system then places you in plat when you really don't belong there. If you go 5/5 in placement matches then the best you should get is silver and then you have to work your way up through silver/gold to plat. This would stop the platinum divisions from being bloated with all of these 5-0 inactive teams. | ||
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Sentient
United States437 Posts
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uniquee
Latvia16 Posts
I just got beta 1 week ago (Friday, when soon they had the reset), but I did play some offline SC II. Before reset I went 4-1 and got into Gold. After reset I only got into bronze. Today I went Platinum; lulz noobies. Just to explain why I'm laughing: I played minimal SC I (and that was a while ago too + I mostly did 20 min no rush if ya kno what i meann). Now I figured to make SC II my new game and in a week I was able to become platinum with minimal experience. Now mind you, I have extensive background in games (not RTS though), but there is no reason I should be platinum within a week and I will have NO problem maintaining it. Overall counting all the games this week + any game in any division, I've played about 70+ games (including non-ranked). Took about 50 to grind into platinum from bronze. As you can see its my first post and I am just now leeching into the SC communities ( hi! ). And I am good at games, but shizzle, it shouldn't be this easy. In addition, people shouldn't be crying too much about placement matches, but rather worry about how saturated Platinum will get. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
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Wintermute
United States427 Posts
The only thing that DOES matter is your hidden rating, which is of course funny to think about (the only thing that really tells you how good you are is the one that's hidden). Whether or not they allow only 5% of the population into platinum or 20%, there's still going to be wide gap in skill. Just be satisfied that when the game is live, there will be a much larger pool of players to pull from, so you won't spend as much time playing platinum baddies like me. Sure, we'll still exist and we'll still be in platinum, but we'll just be playing other less excellent players like ourselves. The only thing that they absolutely need to fix is to make placement take 10-20 matches. Winning 4-5 games in a row isn't that difficult, especially when the ladder first gets reset and every one is considered to be a silver player by default. | ||
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JreL209
United States78 Posts
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Wintermute
United States427 Posts
On May 03 2010 13:29 JreL209 wrote: Does it matter what you place in? Won't most people be playing in online ladders anyways like Iccup? .... Not unless Blizzard allows non Bnet servers, which they don't seem particularly inclined to do. | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
On May 02 2010 06:09 scott desu wrote: I have this sneaking suspicion that when the game is released and all the people that never got into beta get it, they will flood copper and bronze league and then gold and platinum will feel more like their supposed to. you mean they will flood copper and bronze then all the noobs who are currently in copper and bronze will flood platinum. | ||
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bodysnatcher21
Australia147 Posts
There will be an influx of terribad players filling up the copper and bronze leagues, and everyone who has played beta will essentially be "bumped up" in rank to make room for the newbies. My friend is terrible at SC2. Hes never played BW and he has 20 APM, and hes only played SC2 for 2 weeks. Hes in platinum. Personally I think the proleague is not enough to solve this problem. I'd like to see a system more like ICCUP, where the higher ranks have less overall players. That way, getting to Platinum or Gold would actually mean something. | ||
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
The pool(which is still extremely small) is skewed quite a bit due to all the WoW newbs who have never played a RTS game before. | ||
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bjwithbraces
United States549 Posts
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Amuze
Australia12 Posts
I played my placement matches, won 5/5 and got placed in plat. This is basically because i have watched so much sc2 online before i got my key that i knew what to do and what to build. Anyway, in one day i managed to go from plat to rank 2 copper league. I have only been playing for about 4 days and have 35 wins 38 loss, AND i am playing people in silver league. Maybe i do belong in copper league but blizzard just can't make their mind up. I constantly vs people in silver league. Unfair? | ||
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VarsityUser
United States84 Posts
On May 03 2010 14:41 Amuze wrote: Here is my little story. I played my placement matches, won 5/5 and got placed in plat. This is basically because i have watched so much sc2 online before i got my key that i knew what to do and what to build. Anyway, in one day i managed to go from plat to rank 2 copper league. I have only been playing for about 4 days and have 35 wins 38 loss, AND i am playing people in silver league. Maybe i do belong in copper league but blizzard just can't make their mind up. I constantly vs people in silver league. Unfair? Sounds like ur the zerg who 4 pooled me into being placed in gold league... I'm 1.5k rating which would put me top 10 platinum in division except i stick at #1 gold for eternity | ||
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