EPT+Not blob vs blob anymore
+More Windows for Timing Attacks added
+Lurkers back ingame
+Iam Happy.
iam not zerg.
Patch Notes Contest - Page 8
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iNty.sCream
Germany195 Posts
+Not blob vs blob anymore +More Windows for Timing Attacks added +Lurkers back ingame +Iam Happy. iam not zerg. | ||
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Black Octopi
187 Posts
2. Immortal damage now flat 8x4(+1). 3. Siege Tank gas cost down to 75 from 125. 4. Reaper gas cost down to 25 from 50. Merc Compound building (100/100) re-introduced as requirement for Reapers. Spider Mines upgrade added to Merc Compound (each Reaper gains 2 Spider Mines, which reside initially on their shoulder pads). Spider Mines may be placed on buildings and will detonate after 10 second time dealing 150damage (unless destroyed). Nitro Packs moved to Merc Compound. 5. Thor armor raised to 2 from 1. Anti-Air attack is now flak and animation evolves cannons on Thor's back. Thor 250mm cannon ability removed. New Berserker ability added to Thor. Ability is passive and allows the thor to fire at 2 targets simultaneously (must be either only ground or air). When targeting ground targets 2 of the Thors 6 cannons are chosen at random and fired at the target. The Thor is only able to target multiple targets if they are both in front of the Thor. ps. I figured I might as well have some fun with 4 and 5, since I'm not sure what are good balance suggestions; ie. minimum impact changes. | ||
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thekibk
United States116 Posts
Mule is replaced with an extra scv. Chrono boost only works on forge upgrades. All forge upgrades time increased by 50%. Broodlord no longer shoots broodlings, and name change to Swarm Guardian. | ||
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MeditationError
Australia60 Posts
On the other hand, the one person to suggest a nerf to sentries max mana is a genius. 1. Ultralisk collision size reduced 2. Archon collision size reduced 3. Pheonix damage changed from 2*5 (+ 5) to 2*7 (+3) 4. Reaper damage reduced from 2*4(+4) to 2*4(+3), Reaper hps increased from 50 to 60 5. Baneling "volatile burst" ability changed: damage reduced to 10(+15), heals allied zerg in splash area for 10 damage. | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
2. immortal build time +15s, -10 bonus dmg versus armor 3. reactor build time back to 40s (or marine build time decrease) 4. ultralisk buff. +1 base armor seems sensible 5. scan energy cost reduced to 25 | ||
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arcology
United States92 Posts
2. Ultralisk move speed increased 3. Immortal damage reduced from 20(+30) to 20(+25) 4. Photon cannon build time increased 5. Banshee attack damage reduced | ||
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
horrible idea imho then toss doesnt have any single ground unit that doesnt require upgrades to perform well | ||
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lolreaper
301 Posts
On April 21 2010 07:38 summerloud wrote: horrible idea imho then toss doesnt have any single ground unit that doesnt require upgrades to perform well like terran ? | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
On April 21 2010 06:30 -orb- wrote: The number of people suggesting force field be up to 75 energy is depressing. I'd like to see you people hold off an all-in speedling rush without being able to warp in sentries to force field.. You'd basically be 100% forced to wall in every single game and then forced to go straight to immortals in the possibility that they go roaches (since if you don't have the immortals your wall will get shot down and you'll lose your pylons/gateways). It will make every single PvZ the exact same strategy for the protoss. making it 75 energy would smooth the entire game while keeping 50 would only be good for this argument sorry but the change is much more important than ur window of timing to defend a speedling rush its better if they change it to 75 and compensates it by buffing toss or nerfing zerg so tosses can defend vs speedling alling. i dont know how exactly u would do that but i dont know pvz in general but the argument of keeping it on 50 is ridiculous here besides terran already gotta wallin to stop zerg rushes too, and we cant even wallin with supply depots anymore because baneling owns it. but i agree its ridiculous that u have to wallin every game just to be safe vs zerg On April 21 2010 07:38 summerloud wrote: then toss doesnt have any single ground unit that doesnt require upgrades to perform well thats pretty much bs seeing how toss almost never upgrade anything in the early game or early-midgame while terran and zerg r upgrading all throughout the game i hope they dont add upgrade for the hardened shields tho | ||
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
2. Forcefield energy cost increased from 75 to 100 3. Forcefield energy cost increased from 100 to 150 4. Korea. 5. Forcefield energy cost increased from 150 to 201 edit: Actually I think it's pretty unlikely we'll see anything that would qualify as a nerf to FF, it's strong, but it's not that great. | ||
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Reno(TE)
United Kingdom434 Posts
starting mana of sentry 75 max mana 300 mana regeneration x1.5 That should fix everything | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On April 21 2010 06:30 -orb- wrote: The number of people suggesting force field be up to 75 energy is depressing. I'd like to see you people hold off an all-in speedling rush without being able to warp in sentries to force field.. You'd basically be 100% forced to wall in every single game and then forced to go straight to immortals in the possibility that they go roaches (since if you don't have the immortals your wall will get shot down and you'll lose your pylons/gateways). It will make every single PvZ the exact same strategy for the protoss. Make an upgrade to start with +25 energy available at the cybercore, make it relatively cheap and short time (100/75/50 maybe?) Thus you can do your current build, if you see all-in lings, you wall ramp with zealots long enough to get a sentry out for 25 seconds, then you get this upg in time to hold off all-n roaches, easy... | ||
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ColorsOfRainbow
Germany354 Posts
2. Broodlord health decreased 3. increase reaper buildtime or price u say 5 but this will be the only ones sry! xDDD | ||
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
On April 21 2010 07:40 MorroW wrote: making it 75 energy would smooth the entire game while keeping 50 would only be good for this argument sorry but the change is much more important than ur window of timing to defend a speedling rush its better if they change it to 75 and compensates it by buffing toss or nerfing zerg so tosses can defend vs speedling alling. i dont know how exactly u would do that but i dont know pvz in general but the argument of keeping it on 50 is ridiculous here besides terran already gotta wallin to stop zerg rushes too, and we cant even wallin with supply depots anymore because baneling owns it. but i agree its ridiculous that u have to wallin every game just to be safe vs zerg thats pretty much bs seeing how toss almost never upgrade anything in the early game or early-midgame while terran and zerg r upgrading all throughout the game I could not agree with you more. | ||
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Ideas
United States8179 Posts
 )Personally I prefer adding in new ways for the races to deal with it (such as giving zerg a proper SNIPE unit like how mutas were able to snipe templar back in BW) instead of just nerfing it, since forcefield micro is really the most fun thing in SC2 right now (and really hte only thing making it balanced for protoss) | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
2. Marauder shell upgrade cost reduces to 75/75, 15 second faster research time. 3. Stim upgrade cost changed to 125/125, 10 second faster research time. 4. Immortal Cost increased by 25 gas. 5. Force field changed to channeling. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On April 21 2010 07:42 Reno(TE) wrote: force field cost to 750 starting mana of sentry 750 max mana 3000 mana regeneration x15 That should fix everything fixed your numbers for you! in seriousness though, sentry is simply too powerful if you actually know how to use forcefield, either forcefield needs a nerf, or sentry needs to have it's attack nerfed into oblivion. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On April 21 2010 07:46 Ideas wrote: nerfing forcefield is stupid as shit for it would really fuck up the balance of early game P. I think the other races just need better ways to deal with mass forcefields (assuming they are indeed imba which I'm not so sure). Easiest way would be to lower gas cost on ghost a bit so EMPing is easier for Terran (also helps vs mass storm), and maybe changing fungal growth to make any affected caster unable to cast a spell while caught in it (which might actually make it TOO good lol and would need to be nerfed in other ways....welll either way you get my point )Personally I prefer adding in new ways for the races to deal with it (such as giving zerg a proper SNIPE unit like how mutas were able to snipe templar back in BW) instead of just nerfing it, since forcefield micro is really the most fun thing in SC2 right now (and really hte only thing making it balanced for protoss) Actually, if forcefield is just reduced in range significantly protoss will have to actually play the positioning fight, instead of just balling up and creating their own battlefield with force fields. This would not nerf it's ability to wall in a protoss against early cheese, but it would prevent the stupidness that happens with it once you get 6+ sentries + colossus | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
2) Reactor build time decreased to 30 seconds from 50. 3) Marauder build time decreased to 25 seconds from 30. 4) Force Field requires 75 energy instead of 50. 5) Spawn Larva cooldown time increased to 50 seconds from 40. | ||
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Wargizmo
1237 Posts
2) Force field energy up to 75 3) Broodlord rate of fire reduced by 15% 4) Siege tank cost reduced to 100 gas 5) Stalkers can no longer blink past destructible rocks. BTW this is a cool contest, it would be awesome if a Beta Key was given to anyone who could get all 5 changes exactly. Maybe TL could put up one of their 500 keys. | ||
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