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The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
April 21 2010 22:36 GMT
#241
1. Range decrease on Marauders
2. Setries HP increase
3. Storm damage increase.
4. Broodlords damage decrease.
5. Terran can no longer sell bunkers lol
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
April 21 2010 22:47 GMT
#242
1. Increase Immortal build time
2. Make concussive shells 50/50 cost
3. Colossi upgraded ranged decreased to 8
4. Force field energy cast increased.
5. Slight increase in ht storm radius.
SleepSheep
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada344 Posts
April 21 2010 23:00 GMT
#243
1. terran barrack dual build adon decreased time to build
2. carrier hit points increased
3. planatery fortress splash damage fixed
4. engineering bay or missle turret build time decreased
5. sentinal build time decreased like 5 or so seconds
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 21 2010 23:04 GMT
#244
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 22 2010 16:51 GMT
#245
17. Probes' mining ability now has to be researched.
18. Zerg drones' mutation ability now has to be researched.
19. Terran SCVs' HP decreased to 5.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
April 22 2010 16:55 GMT
#246
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 17:07:39
April 22 2010 17:06 GMT
#247
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
btxmonty
Profile Joined April 2010
Panama80 Posts
April 22 2010 17:07 GMT
#248
1. 5 SVC's can now be combined to make a MEGAMULE
2. Marine Stimpack renamed to Energy Drink to keep KeSpa out of blizzard's ASS.
It is only the dead who have seen the end of war - Plato
OHtRUe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States283 Posts
April 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#249
On April 22 2010 00:47 PGHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 07:06 summerloud wrote:
On April 21 2010 07:01 PGHammer wrote:
On April 21 2010 06:14 GsOne wrote:
People that want to buff Stalkers obviously never tried any harras with them. Stalkers come equipped with monstrous range (effectively "1 better than your units"), are very fast and not clumsy like Dragoons, shoot very fast and have rapidly regenerating shields. Terran has like no way to deal with even one stalker just firing one, two shots at his units and then running away to regenerate, at least not until Concussive Shells are researched.
Also, stalkers + warpgates stop like any harras anywhere on the map, something like 4+ banshees is required to deal damage, and Reapers cannot even run from them.

I'd like to see something like starting speed reduced, blink also upgrades it to current value, base range 5 + upgrade at core, maybe some dmg buff to balance it out in PvZ. Two nerfs seem bit too much obiously. On the other hand, Stalkers got buffed while Marauders and Roches got nerfed, and they didn't start at 8 + 6 without a reason.


That's exactly why I predicted the opposite for Stalkers (a nerf as opposed to a buff). Right now, it's easier (and earlier) to build Stalkers than Immortals (which is problematical, since Immortals don't have the capabilities of Stalkers, and are the replacement for Dragoons). In short, Immortals are, if anything *underpowered*, while Stalkers are overpowered. Unless you are going to buff Immortals (so there is not that wide gap power-wise between Immortals and Stalkers), then Stalkers need a nerfing.


that doesnt make any sense


Oh? Then explain all the Stalker-based rushes by Protoss players.

The Stalker rush has replaced the Dragoon rush for the Protoss player in SC2 (as opposed to BW). Considering that Stalkers are later in the Protoss tech tree than Immortals (which are the stated replacement for Dragoons), why has the Stalker pretty much made Immortals irrelevant? Unless you are going to simply get RID of the Immortal, then the Stalker deserves a nerfing (and buff the Immortal at the same time) to give Immortals relevancy.

Zerg: The Roach has almost done the same thing to the Hydralisk that the Stalker has done to the Immortal (made it largely irrelevant). In fact, I'm seeing Zergling/Roach rushes where in BW I used to see Zergling/Hydralisk or Zergling/Ultralisk rushes. Unless you are going to get rid of the Hydralisk, nerf the Roach. (That was probably why the Roach got nerfed; it was encroaching on Hydralisk turf.)

lol wut
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 22 2010 17:22 GMT
#250
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.

This is why I call you people retards. You clearly don't understand the game and think that if any race has any ability to get an advantage through good micro it must be shenanigans.

On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I do play the other races, but keep spewing bullshit because you don't know anything about me. I play random on an alt account, and the difference now with force field is that you actually have to pay attention to your army positioning.

OH NO QQ I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO MY ARMY INSTEAD OF 1A'ING?

God it's like you people want to play an interactive movie
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
April 22 2010 17:23 GMT
#251
On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


Well...orb was playing Zerg the other day in an attempt to prove to people how OP/easy it was. He did pretty much end up steam rolling everyone despite not really knowing what he was doing.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
eugen1225
Profile Joined February 2008
Yugoslavia134 Posts
April 22 2010 17:25 GMT
#252
1. Immortal Nerf
2. Colossus nerf
3. Forcefield nerf
4. Spawn Larva nerf
5. Tank Buff
Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
April 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#253
On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I recall him doing this on his stream. His ZvP was very dominant, I don't recall him getting a TvP match ever, and his other matchups were generally losses. Granted he was playing at like 2K ELO and the system kept giving him terran and zerg opponents so there wasn't a great sampling. I think a LZ(P) v Orb(T) showmatch would be awesome.

Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
April 22 2010 17:31 GMT
#254
On April 23 2010 02:22 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.

This is why I call you people retards. You clearly don't understand the game and think that if any race has any ability to get an advantage through good micro it must be shenanigans.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I do play the other races, but keep spewing bullshit because you don't know anything about me. I play random on an alt account, and the difference now with force field is that you actually have to pay attention to your army positioning.

OH NO QQ I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO MY ARMY INSTEAD OF 1A'ING?

God it's like you people want to play an interactive movie


I do watch your stream a lot, Orb. If we can't asses you appropriately, it's that you won't show to us who you really are. You are being very aggresive and I don't understand why. IT's entertaining, but sometimes I wonder if it's not also a problem for you.
Sometimes you're so upset you make your rant become true. You see it that way, you go into the game with that mindset and then you almost arrange it, maybe unconsciously, that the game concludes to prove your argument.

We may not be seeing who you really are, but we are seeing what you let us see about you. What we are telling you, is what we see.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
April 22 2010 17:34 GMT
#255
orb v. Morrow showmatch, go go go.

Show matches are all the rage, don't you know. Any and all disagreements are settled in Bo5's with everyone watching.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 22 2010 17:37 GMT
#256
On April 23 2010 02:31 Tdelamay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 02:22 -orb- wrote:
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.

This is why I call you people retards. You clearly don't understand the game and think that if any race has any ability to get an advantage through good micro it must be shenanigans.

On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I do play the other races, but keep spewing bullshit because you don't know anything about me. I play random on an alt account, and the difference now with force field is that you actually have to pay attention to your army positioning.

OH NO QQ I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO MY ARMY INSTEAD OF 1A'ING?

God it's like you people want to play an interactive movie


I do watch your stream a lot, Orb. If we can't asses you appropriately, it's that you won't show to us who you really are. You are being very aggresive and I don't understand why. IT's entertaining, but sometimes I wonder if it's not also a problem for you.
Sometimes you're so upset you make your rant become true. You see it that way, you go into the game with that mindset and then you almost arrange it, maybe unconsciously, that the game concludes to prove your argument.

We may not be seeing who you really are, but we are seeing what you let us see about you. What we are telling you, is what we see.


And yet I've mentioned many times on the stream that I play random on an alternate account and even played some zerg games the other day on stream. I baited the toss into using force fields and then fell back and I actually positioned my army well when I engaged so that it didn't matter.

News flash: you actually have to pay attention before engaging your army

As for my aggression it's because I'm allergic to stupidity and 90% of the people in this thread are fucking retarded (judging by them wanting a force field nerf)
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 17:43:01
April 22 2010 17:39 GMT
#257
On April 23 2010 02:22 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.

This is why I call you people retards. You clearly don't understand the game and think that if any race has any ability to get an advantage through good micro it must be shenanigans.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I do play the other races, but keep spewing bullshit because you don't know anything about me. I play random on an alt account, and the difference now with force field is that you actually have to pay attention to your army positioning.

OH NO QQ I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO MY ARMY INSTEAD OF 1A'ING?

God it's like you people want to play an interactive movie

you say i dont understand the game? im not even gonna comment that l<o<l i wish i could play vs u and own u hard to shut ur stupid protoss noob mouth. hell lets go sc1 iccup and settle this like real men xd

when z threw down dark swarm toss and terran had to escape, this was what they would do. swarm wasnt that effective tho in zvp as in zvt

but with force field its great vs everything, melee, ranged, zerg toss and terran. and the worst part is that u cant escape. defiler was t3 unit that u had to consume lings and make upgrades to make while ff is just a shitty 50 energy spell a sentry on t2 can make. thats why it should cost 75 energy, at least :p
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OHtRUe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States283 Posts
April 22 2010 17:40 GMT
#258
orb's worst MU is by far PvT and it's no wonder that he would be good at zerg because he has good mechanics.
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 17:45:53
April 22 2010 17:44 GMT
#259
On April 23 2010 02:22 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.

This is why I call you people retards. You clearly don't understand the game and think that if any race has any ability to get an advantage through good micro it must be shenanigans.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 02:06 Tdelamay wrote:
On April 23 2010 01:55 MorroW wrote:
On April 22 2010 08:04 -orb- wrote:
I can't wait to see them nerf force field due to all you tards crying about it and then see the protoss winrate drop 5% globally

It's like you people have never played protoss. Yes, as terran and as zerg (mostly as zerg because as terran l2emp) you have to actually care about your unit positioning against protoss now, but from the protoss perspective without it you just straight up lose.

On April 22 2010 07:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
1. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
2. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
3. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
4. Whatever people have been whining about nerfed.
5. Some random change that's really kind of pointless but will eventually lead to people whining.

Seriously. That's been the general trend I've been seeing for the past several patches.


pretty much

don't forget to change every nerf to overnerf

I wouldn't be surprised if they made force field require an upgrade, cost 100 energy, be channeled, and have HP.

u dont have to call us retards just because we have different opinions about game balance. i think ur just a bad player because ur always complaining at how bad toss is even vs t when p was imba.
u think its a good gameplay-wise that toss normally throws down 10 force fields in the start of a battle?


That's why I think it would be a good idea for Orb to try the other two races more often. IT would give him a more balanced opinion. He needs to know what feels wrong about protoss from the other races' perspective.

That said, I think Concussive sheel and Spawn infested terran needs to be changed with something else.

I would make Concussive shell reduce armor instead of slowing, and I would have Parasite spawn broodlings at the unit's death.


I do play the other races, but keep spewing bullshit because you don't know anything about me. I play random on an alt account, and the difference now with force field is that you actually have to pay attention to your army positioning.

OH NO QQ I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION TO MY ARMY INSTEAD OF 1A'ING?

God it's like you people want to play an interactive movie



Are you really comparing casting in BW to casting in SC2 because thats ludicrous. Surely you must realize the difference in effort it takes to use dark swarm in BW against a terran army vs.. the difficulty it takes for protoss to spam forcefield and storm nowadays. Thats beside the fact that zerg units are slow as hell anyways when attacking (into enemy territory you know... without creep).

I think forcefield would be ok if hydra were faster and i could actually feint my control groups back and forth but they are slow as hell and its too easy to spam.

anyways nice OP here are my guesses.

1. Nerfing forcefield
2. Lurker is back (lol i wish)
3. Change in prioritization of broodlings
4. Immortal + dmg nerf
5. Tanks will cost less vespene
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Black Octopi
Profile Joined March 2010
187 Posts
April 22 2010 17:48 GMT
#260
On April 23 2010 02:22 -orb- wrote:
So toss throws down a bunch of spells at the start of a fight... so? Think of ZvT lategame back in brood war. Tons of dark swarms were thrown down at every fight. Albeit less in number, but in area that's a shitton more area the terran literally CANNOT fight in.
You can micro out of it. You can also just run out of it. Just as you can run or out-micro HSM, PDD or kill Infestors if they mind control. What are you going to do about forcefields? You are literally at the mercy of the other player and no amount of micro is going to help you. Its even more ridiculous considering one can rush 4 sentries send them to the other guys base and prevent him from getting out until he's teched all the way up.
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