EPTBeta Key Self-Nominators - Page 67
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Weedman
United States65 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
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Weedman
United States65 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:55 StorrZerg wrote: lol, she live or die after that? How the hell should I know, I haven't stopped playing BW and smoking blunts since. | ||
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:30 Zeri wrote: It's not selfless to give up your key to Day9. Yes, at first glance you are sacrificing your immediate needs in favor of someone else's. In long term, (if you have sufficiently proven that indeed day9 is more deserving) You have done an act which will benefit the community. And you benefit greatly from the community. Therefore not selfless. I think you and crate are taking my day9 example a little out of context here. By day9, I meant giving the key to someone who contributes to the community and because of that is overall more deserving of a beta key. I certainly did not imply it to mean "someone who will take the beta key and use it to provide more to me and the community." Giving key to someone who is more deserving, reason for opting out: selfless, rational. | ||
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:58 Weedman wrote: How the hell should I know, I haven't stopped playing BW and smoking blunts since. You stay classy lol | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
There's no need for these metaphysical interrogations -- there's a world of difference between the "selfishness" of someone who has contributed to the community and, considering it a fair exchange for his services, nominates himself in the hope of getting a beta key (emphasis on fair exchange); and the selfishness of a person who signs up with the sole intent of asking for a key and, when it is pointed out to him that he's going against the spirit of the contest, responds along the lines of "no no you don't understand, I REALLY need a key lol." | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:58 Weedman wrote: How the hell should I know, I haven't stopped playing BW and smoking blunts since. Then you should continue to keep playing BW?  | ||
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Cheree
Canada123 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:27 TheYango wrote: You have yet to show anyone who actually is still in with these motivations. Even if they ostensibly do, they'd have to get a key and prove it, as plenty of people could pretend they'd give it to someone more deserving just to get some sympathy. Why do I need to show the motivations? I'm not the one labeling people. The mere possibility is enough to undermine that this 'test' is full-proof at distinguishing people's motivations. Just one person being undeserving of the label is enough. It may be a 'trivial' decision for a lot of people, but I wouldn't even dare to say most people. I brought up the first example cause personally, if I were in the contest and also believed this contest to be real, I would have stayed in to undermine the contest because I don't believe it accomplishes what it's set out to do. On April 19 2010 07:27 TheYango wrote: Again, probably dropped out. Plus, if they've actually made major, notable, contributions to the site, people aren't going to let a single event mar their opinions. I'm pretty sure if people like Ver or MrHoon were on this list, people wouldn't be bashing them. The competition in this list isn't exactly fierce when you're looking at it from a worthiness perspective. If it was me in that list vs 100 people who'd just registered today to nominate themselves, I would be like 'Wtf, who are these guys? I'm not opting out. Why should I help them? I deserve it more than they do.' It's not a question of selfishness, the question is 'Are you so stupid to give these guys who didn't contribute a dime a shot over you?' Anyway, I disagree with the decisions being 100% trivial or even close to. And unless you or I or someone wants to go through every single post and figure out their true intention behind their decisions, neither of us will be able to convince the other of the 'triviality' of the decisions. | ||
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IndecisivePenguin
United States771 Posts
On April 19 2010 08:05 snowdrift86 wrote: Good god, this has turned into a rather inane debate about the possibility of true selflessness and other subjects that, while they may be interesting in their own right, aren't very relevant to this thread (you can thank the various white knights for this derailment). There's no need for these metaphysical interrogations -- there's a world of difference between the "selfishness" of someone who has contributed to the community and, considering it a fair exchange for his services, nominates himself in the hope of getting a beta key (emphasis on fair exchange); and the selfishness of a person who signs up with the sole intent of asking for a key and, when it is pointed out to him that he's going against the spirit of the contest, respond along the lines of "no no you don't understand, I REALLY need a key lol." It's almost as if the point of the thread has been completely lost. Almost  I'm pretty sure people will start remembering in the last two hours. | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
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ClanOverdosed
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
On April 19 2010 08:00 getSome[703] wrote: I think you and crate are taking my day9 example a little out of context here. By day9, I meant giving the key to someone who contributes to the community and because of that is overall more deserving of a beta key. I certainly did not imply it to mean "someone who will take the beta key and use it to provide more to me and the community." Giving key to someone who is more deserving, reason for opting out: selfless, rational. Not selfless. If you have proved that they are more deserving, there is a reason that they are more deserving. That reason is undoubtedly positive (they have worked hard, they give back, they are just plain good), and this action of rewarding them or giving them something will benefit some aspect of the community (to take it further, will benefit some aspect of the world). You do receive benefits from a benefited community (world). Now. A truly selfless action would be to give a key to someone who will do something negative with it (lets go to extremes and say they will murder someone). Now if you still sacrificed your own needs for this person. Yes this would be selfless (and irrational!) If it is not blatantly obvious, yes I do think selfishness is a good thing, but it must be thought out. | ||
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Cheree
Canada123 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:53 blipster8 wrote: Lest you forget: the list does not include every self-nominator; there was at least some effort not to include those who really have made significant contributions to TL. The effort wasn't enough. | ||
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Satallgeese
United States239 Posts
I'm curious to see where this is going to end up, lol. Oh, and take note how the posts become more and more intricate and people flaunt more and more ridiculous diction to show how much more they deserve a key. | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On April 19 2010 07:58 Weedman wrote: How the hell should I know, I haven't stopped playing BW and smoking blunts since. LOL quote of the century! In other news... + Show Spoiler + If your not kidding, please find out and get back to your life! edit: idea! New system, last person to say "not it" must have their name crossed! I shall start, Not it! (btw, I'm only half joking, I just really want for the numbers to diminish to 52 at least. | ||
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muta_micro
United States183 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On April 19 2010 08:22 muta_micro wrote: I think I deserve a beta-key because I'm new to TL and haven't contributed anything to the site yet, so it would be extremely funny to give one to me. Also I promise to log on more often regardless of whether I receive a key or not. Your not on the list... | ||
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Weedman
United States65 Posts
On April 19 2010 08:22 muta_micro wrote: I think I deserve a beta-key because I'm new to TL and haven't contributed anything to the site yet, so it would be extremely funny to give one to me. Also I promise to log on more often regardless of whether I receive a key or not. To bad you aren't on the list. | ||
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cloudJR
United States266 Posts
Here is where I explain why I really feel like I should continue to opt-in with a chance to get a key. First and foremost I have never made an effort to compete for one beta key. I looked at it like well it will come out eventually, and I'm not going to kiss someone's ass to get one. Then I came across this site and absolutely fell in love with it. No joke I hardly ever turn my TV on because I'm always watching a stream and participating in every chat (I'm a big Orb fan lol). When I noticed this giveaway the first thing that came to mind was, "Wow if I had a key, I could actually contribute to this site." I mean lets be honest, who wants to listen to someone talk about build orders when they aren't even able to play the game? Yes I am new but I feel like everyone looks at "noobs" to this site as scavengers just looking for a hand-out. I explained to a higher up in a PM, not because I'm new doesn't mean I have nothing to offer. All of you were new to this site at some point. I have no doubt in my mind that whether I receive a key or not I want to become a strong and consistent member of TL. So take that however you want, and sorry this message is so damn long lol. I just feel like I should explain why I'm still participating. | ||
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StinkyBoots
Canada76 Posts
LOL You typed that huge long post in the "nominate someone to win a beta key" thread, and it's all for nothing. Teamliquid will never ever give away a betakey to someone with less than a thousand posts, especially someone who comes out of the blue and just nominates themselves. Big waste of time dude.....just like every single other person who nominated themselves.....they wont be getting anything at all due to the complete douchbaggery of actually nominating yourself...especially with your first fucking post on the website ROFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFL Thanks Buddy Thumbs Up  | ||
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