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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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ccou
United States681 Posts
On April 18 2010 09:48 Kare wrote: I really hope the patch will come soon. For me, starcraft 2 is actually quite horrible.. as said in previous posts, mass up units and a move and maybe throw in some forcefields or emps/storms and thats it. Pretty sure SC2 protoss has more micro than SCBW protoss outside of the replacement of the reaver with the colossus. It's zerg, terran, and high ground advantage that has degenerated. | ||
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lolreaper
301 Posts
On April 19 2010 00:52 ccou wrote: Pretty sure SC2 protoss has more micro than SCBW protoss outside of the replacement of the reaver with the colossus. . lol? | ||
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ccou
United States681 Posts
Do you disagree? zealots are pretty much still zealots... unless you're good enough to manually manage charge which means it's more micro. Stalkers are more micro than dragoons if blink is utilized. SCBW didn't even have sentry micro at all. Smart cast isn't that big of a deal when it comes to storms and you have feedback now. Immortals, another unit not present in SCBW, do such huge bonus damage to armored, you'll lose sooo much dps if you don't micro them. Phase prism has more to do than regular shuttle. Phoenices/gravitron is equal or more micro than corsair/web. | ||
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haitike
Spain2722 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:04 ccou wrote: zealots are pretty much still zealots... unless you're good enough to manually manage charge which means it's more micro. Zealot have autosurrond, so they fight without micro. In SC1 you do micro with zealots and zerlings individually in awesome melee battles. In SC2 not. AutoSurround kills the melee battle. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Also, push breaking (spreading zealots between tanks, shuttle bombing, shuttle storming etc) is more or less gone. That's not to say that I think P is easy or anything now, using all your chrono energy late game, and constantly warping in units seems like it would take A LOT of management, and there's a lot of room for mobility abuse with warp prisms etc. On April 18 2010 09:13 KinosJourney2 wrote: That was not my point, i didn't even do good but the fact that i have to redo my Placement matches is what is frustrating. No need to be so blunt  Yeah, I hate taking placement games -.- | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:07 haitike wrote: Zealot have autosurrond, so they fight without micro. In SC1 you do micro with zealots and zerlings individually in awesome melee battles. In SC2 not. There is still micro for you to do. It's just different. Arguably, it's less important. The unit AI is still extremely primitive, it's just not as ridiculously incompetent at basic things as in the original. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:11 Funchucks wrote: There is still micro for you to do. It's just different. Arguably, it's less important. The unit AI is still extremely primitive, it's just not as ridiculously incompetent at basic things as in the original. Funnily enough, the AI for repairing or going around obstacles is worse in SC2 than in SC1. What I mean by this is, if you order a unit to repair in SC1 and it's blocked, if you click repair a few times it will try to find a way around whatever unit is blocking it... whereas in SC2 the stupid SCV will just stand there until you manage guide it around the friendly scv in its way. Same when you try to enter bunkers, quite frustrating. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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ccou
United States681 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:09 FrozenArbiter wrote: Pretty sure phoenix/gravitron isn't half as much micro as corsair/web - smart casting makes any kind of spellcasting a lot easier. Also, push breaking (spreading zealots between tanks, shuttle bombing, shuttle storming etc) is more or less gone. That's not to say that I think P is easy or anything now, using all your chrono energy late game, and constantly warping in units seems like it would take A LOT of management, and there's a lot of room for mobility abuse with warp prisms etc. yeah, I guess that's probably true about the smart casting, I'll rescind that... on second thought it is easier. I'm not sure about the lack of spreading micro since you still need to spread against emp, but decrease in PvT battle micro is more due to the degeneration of terran than changes in protoss. Mech with tanks being a uncompetitive unit instead of bio, the removal of spider mines, and essentially the removal of high ground just decreases map area control in PvT. EDIT: actually sorry for taking the thread on a tangent. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:09 FrozenArbiter wrote: Yeah, I hate taking placement games -.- As someone who got dropped from two placement matches, I happily welcome the reset. -__- | ||
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haitike
Spain2722 Posts
I Hope Blizzard fix the "you have been dropped" bug. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:34 Mannerheim wrote: As someone who got dropped from two placement matches, I happily welcome the reset. -__- Yeah but you see, this is what I fear will happen everytime I take placement games :D | ||
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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:36 haitike wrote: Me too. I was dropped from two game in last placement. I Hope Blizzard fix the "you have been dropped" bug. is there a bug that causes you to drop? i only encountered this when i had a regular disconnect... | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:38 FrozenArbiter wrote: Yeah but you see, this is what I fear will happen everytime I take placement games :D Doesn't really matter. I disconnected two placement games last reset and ended up in silver. Took me a day to get back up to plat. | ||
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Mannerheim
766 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:38 green.at wrote: is there a bug that causes you to drop? i only encountered this when i had a regular disconnect... I think there is: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23710461640&sid=5010 http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24038449372&sid=5000 http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=24261279708&sid=5000 Whenever I get dropped, no other apps (IM, net radio, IRC) disconnect, so I doubt it's the connection. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
i got reset for the 3rd time now. kept my pic, friendlist gone and profile shows some weird curizo or whatever guy in copper. the last were atleast kinda full resets. but this is just crazy. esp since it seems like it happened to half of my friendslist in the last 2-3 days. cant wait for the patch. /edit 30 minutes later after 4th relog and 3 different profiles i have my stats/friends back. lucky me. 22 teams with guys that got reset too are fukked tho. | ||
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Jaxx
Slovakia758 Posts
Edit: Now cannot login at all, cannot connect to character (null).(null) | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On April 19 2010 01:44 Eury wrote: Doesn't really matter. I disconnected two placement games last reset and ended up in silver. Took me a day to get back up to plat. Look on the bright side, you get to enter Platinum with a padded record. =P | ||
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RPGabe
United States192 Posts
I played 50 games that weekend to get back to platinum just to avoid the shame. | ||
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