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not familiar with reddit.com but seems interesting link. def good to hear some of those comments, they're exactly what i hoped for!
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There have been quite a few SC2 links up on reddit lately.
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Thats HD's video
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Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky
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"gg" and "IdrA has left the game! are practically magnetically polar for all I can see.
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On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky  i had a serious face until i read the author PP
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One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes.
starcraft subreddit
TBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.
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That was some sick micro by the P. Nice to see blink can be powerful.
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On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes. starcraft subredditTBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.
i guess this wouldn't be teamliquid without any elitism in the first 10 posts. But yeah, seems to be mostly true, from looking at the reddit comments.
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On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky  LOL Both of you are ballers anyway
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On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky  congrats on you and husky for getting a lot of subscribers to your youtube channel ^^
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On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes. starcraft subredditTBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.
Would be true if it wasnt for the fact that most of the r/starcraft community are a bunch of idiots.
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I find it hilarious how this HDstarcraft guy just discovered the BW scene in like less than a year (I'm assuming based on the content of his BW commentaries) before beta came out , makes a name that will appeal to new sc2 players, and now he has 44,000 subscribers.
Smart.
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On April 13 2010 16:18 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: I find it hilarious how this HDstarcraft guy just discovered the BW scene in like less than a year (I'm assuming based on the content of his BW commentaries) before beta came out , makes a name that will appeal to new sc2 players, and now he has 44,000 subscribers.
Smart. Well, he also acknowledges that fans want HD content for entertainment, as opposed to low-res 'competitive parsing' settings. =)
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finally someone does this..when they first showed blink like 2 years ago i think people thought about this but apparently everyone forgot cus i've like never seen anyone do this in beta
reeeeeeeeally strong vs roaches and synergizes very very well with protoss's new way of quickly regenerating shields
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Fun game. Its always fun listening to HD and Husky duke it out though. Keep up the good work.
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That was just beautiful! Wow SC2 WILL have some impressive micro moments!
So simple but so impressive.
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On April 13 2010 16:26 Zelniq wrote: finally someone does this..when they first showed blink like 2 years ago i think people thought about this but apparently everyone forgot cus i've like never seen anyone do this in beta
reeeeeeeeally strong vs roaches and synergizes very very well with protoss's new way of quickly regenerating shields
blizz even showed everyone how to do it, and still tosses complained the stalker was too weak. now stalkers are too strong(thought this way before the video), but i'll keep that opinion to myself.
edit: what i mean by "too strong," is that their utility was very high before, but now they're 'too' versatile.
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Awesome to see blink used like that, fun fun!
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On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes. starcraft subredditTBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays. I think it's more important to get links upvoted in /r/gaming/. Posting links and trying to create hype in /r/starcraft/ would be like preaching to the choir. /r/gaming has 135.000 registered readers but is also part of the reddit front page for non registered users which means a lot more than that will potentially see it. Redditors fit the demographic of e-sports fans well and a good video on the front page can make thousands of those people experience watching a commentated game of starcraft 2 for the first time.
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Lol, is this the game that made Idra switch to early hydras?
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that game is actually pretty boring, it looks like any game idra loses is worth doing a commentary for those guys
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holllyyyy shyttt
imagine korean progamers doing that all day. The ones not paid to lose, that is.
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Omg, no micro in SC2. SC2 so bad.
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That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.
yawn
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On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote: That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.
yawn How did he use blink 2 years ago?
And I don't understand all the hate. HD and Husky are streaming and also posting on youtube in HD or at least fairly reasonable quality. Yeah I understand and agree with how using low settings helps when playing but its makes no sense whatsoever when casting replays or games.
And yes I'm pretty sure everyone with half a brain knows its on low because technology is bad as-is anyway we don't need settings on Ultra getting in the way when streaming. There's no reason to lie to us.
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this video is fake
immortal is only counter to roaches~~
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saw a nice replay of hasuobs doing some blink management like that last month
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On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote: That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.
yawn How did he use blink 2 years ago? I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves, might have been during Blizzcon gameplay.
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On April 13 2010 18:05 Lemure wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote: That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.
yawn How did he use blink 2 years ago? I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves.
I think he was talking about a player named Sonic who used that. IIRC hes a WC3 player but I could be mistaken. It was broadcasted by dustin browder and robert simpson.
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Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing
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On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote: Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing
He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard 
Good play by bobby either way.
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We should be using the power of teamliquid mass voting to ensure there is constant esport coverage on reddit's frontpage.
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dammit now my fast blink strat is going to just look like copying good players. i do the same exact thing vs roaches and marines/marauders, blinking back the low hp stalkers is awesome and fun to micro. a bunch of red stalkers means super efficiency which is why blink is good. early rushes are hard to stop if ur going fast stalker/council though
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thanks for the link, this was some really good play by the toss.
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Lmfao, and players like Orb think zerg and terran are OP lol
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On April 13 2010 18:27 HDstarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote: Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard  Good play by bobby either way.
I think he left because the game was over and leaving the game when you can't possibly come back is something that most people do.
I feel sorry for idra, he can't leave a game without people saying he "ragequit" or something
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... until people start to burrow their roaches /o\
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Can't wait to see games with micro and macro like this. Looks like SC2 has some great potential entertainment factors.
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People are so negative in this thread...
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The Micro was effective - yes, but it's not that hard to outmicro IdrA's Army-composition with blink.
Most Z go for very fast Lair for Hydras anyways to counter Immortal-pushes, so I wouldn't recommend going 1-base Stalkers with Blink. Although they're okay to defend against Mutas when you are on two bases and they're decent on certain Maps, like Kulas ravine..
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was hoping to see some actual micro, P wasn't even focus firing
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On April 13 2010 21:57 faction123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 18:27 HDstarcraft wrote:On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote: Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard  Good play by bobby either way. I think he left because the game was over and leaving the game when you can't possibly come back is something that most people do. I feel sorry for idra, he can't leave a game without people saying he "ragequit" or something
Well yeah, but gm players would throw up a "gg" at least, and Idra is known for not doing much of that haha.
Anyways, I wonder why everyone is so negative in this thread. It was a good display of Stalker control, blinking units that virtually were about to die if left for a fraction of a second. It's not even like this was being overhyped or anything.
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On April 13 2010 18:07 HDstarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 18:05 Lemure wrote:On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote: That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.
yawn How did he use blink 2 years ago? I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves. I think he was talking about a player named Sonic who used that. IIRC hes a WC3 player but I could be mistaken. It was broadcasted by dustin browder and robert simpson. It was SonKie vs Yellow showmatch at one of the previous Blizzcons where Yellow showed this exact micro technique.
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Well it was fun to watch, but it felt more like W3 micro that SC micro, but maybe its just me. Other than that I think it was just bad panic management from Idra with throwing units away. And the thing is, it was fun now, but will it be fun after a few years or will it be more like boring standard routine micro to maximize the use of stalkers? Both for players and fans.
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On April 13 2010 17:51 Mora wrote: this video is fake
immortal is only counter to roaches~~ hahahah
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Husky...
You should feel honored by some of those posts. You are apparently a very talented caster and you're sparking interest in people who have never even heard of the game:
For some reason I can't stop watching Husky and HD's casts, I even downloaded and setup the single player SCII just to give it a try, you know, that looks like fun I could do that. Oh wait I suck horribly and watching these videos is more fun than playing.
I just recently got SC1 and WC3 after watching maybe 5 hours of H to the Usky Husky and HD's commentary I really want to get into starcraft it looks like so much fun.
Moving around the map and keeping track of everything for a nub is fucking hard.
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IdrA or not IdrA the p was incredible! I never make stalkers (in any mu) but..damn..that looks sooo sexy..
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On April 13 2010 22:18 PokePill wrote: was hoping to see some actual micro, P wasn't even focus firing
Which replay have you seen man? the p was in fact focusing fire -.-
EDIT: i agree husky! it is a pleasure to hear you!
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Most interesting part is that this was pre-patch. I bet this is even more useful against roach/ling comp. Well done Bobby.
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So: Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)
Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro
Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT.
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On April 13 2010 23:28 gogogadgetflow wrote: So: Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)
Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro
Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT. Where's your manliness now?
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I never GG unless its a game where I had imense pleasure playing even tho I lost,
when I lose for stupid reasons I ragequit =o
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guees idra says nothing when he just gets outplayed
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this is the first thing, aside from mothership rush, that i will try when i get my freaking computer to run that beta
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this game was played on the eu server, you have like 1000ms from korea.
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Really good use of blink, his micro really made the difference would have lost his stalker without it.
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yea i saw this rep a couple days ago, kinda wanted to make me play toss lol
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This really shows how OP protoss really are.
I mean come on we are so used of fighting a-clickers that when a Protoss actually doing some kind of micro.
MIND YOU HE WAS NOT FOCUS FIREING JUST BLINKING THE LOW HP which tbh I could do that.
Ofc great play, idra needs to scout better thats what SC2 is all about. Scouting and countering because no high ground atvantage you cannot defend if you read your opponent wrong. ofc I am no pro and idra beat me 10/10 but then I havent played as many games as Idra did his first day of beta yet and I had it for almost a month.
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Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability.
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On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability.
Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.
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That was very good! It's just a matter of time before people start controlling their units the way they're supposed to.
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On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability. Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.
That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?
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That is more of what this game needs
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I love blink. That's all I ever do as protoss. Mass speedlings is really hard to stop though.
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On April 14 2010 01:36 Squallcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability. Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying. That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?
Simply because its not needed. The zealot-sentry build requires practicly zero skill and same thing with immortal push.
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On April 14 2010 01:36 Squallcloud wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability. Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying. That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?
Because what he did was not as "easy" as Zoler is suggesting. Look at the stalkers HP and see how well he picked the weakest ones ONE AT A TIME.
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That was awesome micro by Drunkbobby, he defiantly deserved that win.
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That micro is not difficult to do when it's the only thing being done. Because he was all-in, that's all he could do is micro Stalkers and sometimes go W shift+S click click click. You could make a Flash game out of what he was doing and everyone could play it for an hour and come back saying "this is too easy."
I'm glad that the micro looks impressive and cool to the casual viewer. That is a huge plus for SC2. It's absolutely not a bad thing that micro looks more impressive than it actually is. The Stalker micro is a perfect counter-example to the people saying "battles in SC2 are too boring and it's not possible to tell what's going on."
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On April 13 2010 23:37 lolaloc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2010 23:28 gogogadgetflow wrote: So: Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)
Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro
Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT. Where's your manliness now?
I think we all know kiting is strong as hell and certainly doesnt make the terran unmanly. But because they dont glitter and go *poof* like the androgynous "cool kid" protoss or pop up and down like a plush toy diglett like the no-identity zerg, the Terrans are currently too brutish and straightforward for e-sports. I'm sure they will find a way to maintain the manliness while putting on a show - we'll just have to wait and see
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Ahh good ole blink micro. The stalker has definetly become more useful... I am still in between on the nerf or just leave alone. Maybe a little balance on the damage or amount of shields.
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If you're no reddit, subscribe to /r/starcraft, there's lots of good stuff there. reddit.com/r/starcraft
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On April 14 2010 02:46 TheHof wrote: If you're no reddit, subscribe to /r/starcraft, there's lots of good stuff there. reddit.com/r/starcraft Reading those comments made me never want to become a part of reddit.
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Stalker Micro w/ Blink = Spectators will be wowed.
How effective it is, I don't know; certainly better than non-Blink. How cool it is? For me, it's a 10 out of 10 :D
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The best part about this is you know Idra probably sat there bitching about cheese, when he clearly got outplayed/microed BADLY.
Idra will never be the top SC2 player, though he will be very good, because smart players will know that they can throw him off with cheese and play with his head a bit, just like Nony did in TSL.
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On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability. Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying. Sure, you can do it. Can you do it while maintaining unit production at that warp-in pylon, while building in base, and while making sure to come back and blink out the damaged stalkers like this player did.
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On April 14 2010 05:49 PanzerDragoon wrote: The best part about this is you know Idra probably sat there bitching about cheese, when he clearly got outplayed/microed BADLY.
Idra will never be the top SC2 player, though he will be very good, because smart players will know that they can throw him off with cheese and play with his head a bit, just like Nony did in TSL.
Why assume anything at all? How do you (or anybody) know that he didn't go "wow, that was weird never saw that before guess i know what NOT to do from now on"?
Is it really necessary to post a new topic every time that somebody beats Idra and he doesn't GG. Who cares? Grow up.
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On April 14 2010 05:51 PanzerDragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote: Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.
On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.
Really strong ability. Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying. Sure, you can do it. Can you do it while maintaining unit production at that warp-in pylon, while building in base, and while making sure to come back and blink out the damaged stalkers like this player did.
Yes, because he wasn't building in base. He was just warping in and blinking out low HP stalkers. All he had to do was scroll his screen to the nearby pylon, hit w S S S and spam click, then move to the stalkers, click one on low hp, and hit B and click behind the pack. Even the worst WC3 players have been doing that for years. It looks impressive, and it's cool of him to come up with the idea, but it's not difficult to pull off thanks to health bars.
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Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.
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seen the rep right after the zotac cup finished, really nice play by bobby. naz tried it today against me on kulas, turns out mass speedlings into speed roaches own it.
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On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote: Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.
90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old?
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lol@the argument on cheese on the first page .
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On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote: Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea. 90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old? on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg.
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On April 14 2010 09:03 Newguy wrote:lol@the argument on cheese on the first page  . lol @ arguments of everything else on the other pages.
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On April 14 2010 09:53 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote: Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea. 90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old? on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg.
Most people on US server don't, and this definitely wasn't a tourney. People need to just leave idra alone and stop assuming he has an aneurysm whenever he loses a game.
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On April 14 2010 11:38 faction123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 09:53 diehilde wrote:On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote: Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea. 90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old? on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg. Most people on US server don't, and this definitely wasn't a tourney. People need to just leave idra alone and stop assuming he has an aneurysm whenever he loses a game. im just saying, i dont care if idra ggs or doesnt. btw this was from zotac cup quarter finals, so yes, it was a tourney. Again, just saying.
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Drunk Bobby is a fucking monster!
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I don't get why people whine about not saying gg in unofficial matches. grow up? It doesn't mean anything and when you are grinding games it would be tiresome to keep lying to the opponent when in actuality you don't believe it was a good game.
Only in a tournament do you owe your opponent the respect to say good game. That is because the tournament games are the accumulations of all of your practice. So stop using it as an excuse to bash Idra. I'm not defending him but the zealous hatred towards anything he does which is perceived BM is so childish.
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Wouldnt really call this impressive micro, the only thing that would be impressive if is idra would actually be abble to beat this army, but stalkers much faster than roaches/zerglings and bigger range, don't have to be next bisu to click a few stalkers to the back, idra's army is handicapped vs this so simply not that impressive ;e
its like microing maradeurs with slow upgrade vs zealots/stalker or so, or to speak in wc3 terms dryads vs grunts or sorceress vs grunts etc, even though this was a bit harder, not really all that hard :D
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192 000 views wow
I guess this makes statements about lings being too easy to use untrue. IdrA rushed and lost too many but at the same time only attacked the closest Stalkers instead of going for the most weakened. I like how those Stalkers regain shields too
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Personally, I consider calling "gg" a responsibility because it contributes and maintains the best gaming community in the world. If you have come to love the manners of this community (whether it's unofficial, competitive, or just plain leisure, show your respect and call gg.
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On April 14 2010 23:21 RotterdaM wrote: Wouldnt really call this impressive micro, the only thing that would be impressive if is idra would actually be abble to beat this army, but stalkers much faster than roaches/zerglings and bigger range, don't have to be next bisu to click a few stalkers to the back, idra's army is handicapped vs this so simply not that impressive ;e
its like microing maradeurs with slow upgrade vs zealots/stalker or so, or to speak in wc3 terms dryads vs grunts or sorceress vs grunts etc, even though this was a bit harder, not really all that hard :D
lol obviusly its harder as u need to keep alt on to see ur hp's (if u dont have "show always " hp") and u have to actually press b click not just click a click a.
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On May 23 2010 01:30 MSrabbiT wrote: Personally, I consider calling "gg" a responsibility because it contributes and maintains the best gaming community in the world. If you have come to love the manners of this community (whether it's unofficial, competitive, or just plain leisure, show your respect and call gg.
Excellent first post. This is the best gaming community in the world. I love manners to. I also love necroing threads.
I think this is the end of our friendship MSrabbiT. I don't ever gl hf, I only gg if it was a gg and I hate forum necromancers.
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On April 13 2010 20:42 SevenAteNine wrote: Lmfao, and players like Orb think zerg and terran are OP lol Because stalker blink micro is unbeatable strategy.
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