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Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 06:55:58
April 13 2010 06:41 GMT
#1
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/bq26x/hdstarcraft_video_most_effective_micro_ive_ever/

Some of the comments are funny, but it's still cool that HD made it to the front page. Way to go! It's nice to see this game is already attracting a casual viewer fanbase, it says a lot about this game's potential in e-sports

Also, sorry if this was posted. Didn't see it in search.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
April 13 2010 06:43 GMT
#2
not familiar with reddit.com but seems interesting link. def good to hear some of those comments, they're exactly what i hoped for!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 13 2010 06:45 GMT
#3
There have been quite a few SC2 links up on reddit lately.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
April 13 2010 06:46 GMT
#4
Thats HD's video
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 13 2010 06:47 GMT
#5
IdrA has left the game!
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 06:49:16
April 13 2010 06:47 GMT
#6
Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 13 2010 06:49 GMT
#7
"gg" and "IdrA has left the game! are practically magnetically polar for all I can see.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 13 2010 06:52 GMT
#8
On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky


i had a serious face until i read the author PP
agorist
Profile Joined July 2009
United States115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 06:54:54
April 13 2010 06:53 GMT
#9
One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes.


starcraft subreddit

TBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
April 13 2010 06:54 GMT
#10
That was some sick micro by the P. Nice to see blink can be powerful.
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
April 13 2010 06:55 GMT
#11
On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:
One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes.


starcraft subreddit

TBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.


i guess this wouldn't be teamliquid without any elitism in the first 10 posts. But yeah, seems to be mostly true, from looking at the reddit comments.
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 13 2010 07:05 GMT
#12
On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky

LOL Both of you are ballers anyway
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 13 2010 07:06 GMT
#13
On April 13 2010 15:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
Commentator sounds noob, it's definitely Husky

congrats on you and husky for getting a lot of subscribers to your youtube channel ^^
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 07:11:47
April 13 2010 07:11 GMT
#14
On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:
One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes.


starcraft subreddit

TBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.


Would be true if it wasnt for the fact that most of the r/starcraft community are a bunch of idiots.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
April 13 2010 07:18 GMT
#15
I find it hilarious how this HDstarcraft guy just discovered the BW scene in like less than a year (I'm assuming based on the content of his BW commentaries) before beta came out , makes a name that will appeal to new sc2 players, and now he has 44,000 subscribers.

Smart.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
April 13 2010 07:23 GMT
#16
On April 13 2010 16:18 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
I find it hilarious how this HDstarcraft guy just discovered the BW scene in like less than a year (I'm assuming based on the content of his BW commentaries) before beta came out , makes a name that will appeal to new sc2 players, and now he has 44,000 subscribers.

Smart.

Well, he also acknowledges that fans want HD content for entertainment, as opposed to low-res 'competitive parsing' settings. =)
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 13 2010 07:26 GMT
#17
finally someone does this..when they first showed blink like 2 years ago i think people thought about this but apparently everyone forgot cus i've like never seen anyone do this in beta

reeeeeeeeally strong vs roaches and synergizes very very well with protoss's new way of quickly regenerating shields
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NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
April 13 2010 07:29 GMT
#18
Fun game. Its always fun listening to HD and Husky duke it out though. Keep up the good work.
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
metaldragon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States251 Posts
April 13 2010 07:36 GMT
#19
That was just beautiful! Wow SC2 WILL have some impressive micro moments!

So simple but so impressive.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 07:38:02
April 13 2010 07:36 GMT
#20
On April 13 2010 16:26 Zelniq wrote:
finally someone does this..when they first showed blink like 2 years ago i think people thought about this but apparently everyone forgot cus i've like never seen anyone do this in beta

reeeeeeeeally strong vs roaches and synergizes very very well with protoss's new way of quickly regenerating shields


blizz even showed everyone how to do it, and still tosses complained the stalker was too weak. now stalkers are too strong(thought this way before the video), but i'll keep that opinion to myself.

edit: what i mean by "too strong," is that their utility was very high before, but now they're 'too' versatile.
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
April 13 2010 07:37 GMT
#21
Awesome to see blink used like that, fun fun!
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
April 13 2010 07:46 GMT
#22
On April 13 2010 15:53 agorist wrote:
One should use the starcraft subreddit. r/gaming is full of dysfunctional idiots who could hardly fucking touch their toes.


starcraft subreddit

TBH, it's mostly teamliquid links and various replays.

I think it's more important to get links upvoted in /r/gaming/. Posting links and trying to create hype in /r/starcraft/ would be like preaching to the choir. /r/gaming has 135.000 registered readers but is also part of the reddit front page for non registered users which means a lot more than that will potentially see it. Redditors fit the demographic of e-sports fans well and a good video on the front page can make thousands of those people experience watching a commentated game of starcraft 2 for the first time.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 13 2010 07:47 GMT
#23
Lol, is this the game that made Idra switch to early hydras?
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
April 13 2010 08:04 GMT
#24
that game is actually pretty boring, it looks like any game idra loses is worth doing a commentary for those guys
zomgzergrush
Profile Joined August 2008
United States923 Posts
April 13 2010 08:23 GMT
#25
holllyyyy shyttt

imagine korean progamers doing that all day. The ones not paid to lose, that is.
Bronze skipping straight to Diamond in 40 games retail release. Bnet 2.0 ladder really takes it's sweet time to think about that league placement.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
April 13 2010 08:26 GMT
#26
Omg, no micro in SC2. SC2 so bad.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 13 2010 08:26 GMT
#27
That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.

yawn
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Black Octopi
Profile Joined March 2010
187 Posts
April 13 2010 08:50 GMT
#28
On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote:
That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.

yawn
How did he use blink 2 years ago?

And I don't understand all the hate. HD and Husky are streaming and also posting on youtube in HD or at least fairly reasonable quality. Yeah I understand and agree with how using low settings helps when playing but its makes no sense whatsoever when casting replays or games.

And yes I'm pretty sure everyone with half a brain knows its on low because technology is bad as-is anyway we don't need settings on Ultra getting in the way when streaming. There's no reason to lie to us.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
April 13 2010 08:51 GMT
#29
this video is fake

immortal is only counter to roaches~~
Happiness only real when shared.
twoc
Profile Joined March 2010
26 Posts
April 13 2010 09:00 GMT
#30
saw a nice replay of hasuobs doing some blink management like that last month
Lemure
Profile Joined March 2010
189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 09:08:18
April 13 2010 09:05 GMT
#31
On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote:
That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.

yawn
How did he use blink 2 years ago?


I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves, might have been during Blizzcon gameplay.
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 09:12:22
April 13 2010 09:07 GMT
#32
On April 13 2010 18:05 Lemure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:
On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote:
That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.

yawn
How did he use blink 2 years ago?


I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves.



I think he was talking about a player named Sonic who used that. IIRC hes a WC3 player but I could be mistaken. It was broadcasted by dustin browder and robert simpson.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
April 13 2010 09:14 GMT
#33
Ragequitblinkmicro
"Starcraft...It just echos brilliance and manliness." - Tasteless
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 13 2010 09:25 GMT
#34
Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 09:28:01
April 13 2010 09:27 GMT
#35
On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote:
Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing


He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard

Good play by bobby either way.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Acies
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia196 Posts
April 13 2010 11:19 GMT
#36
We should be using the power of teamliquid mass voting to ensure there is constant esport coverage on reddit's frontpage.
AvalancheGaming.org - SC2 Tournament and LAN in Bunbury, Western Australia
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
April 13 2010 11:22 GMT
#37
dammit now my fast blink strat is going to just look like copying good players. i do the same exact thing vs roaches and marines/marauders, blinking back the low hp stalkers is awesome and fun to micro. a bunch of red stalkers means super efficiency which is why blink is good.
early rushes are hard to stop if ur going fast stalker/council though
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
FarGleinaD
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany15 Posts
April 13 2010 11:37 GMT
#38
thanks for the link, this was some really good play by the toss.
YO~
SevenAteNine
Profile Joined February 2010
126 Posts
April 13 2010 11:42 GMT
#39
Lmfao, and players like Orb think zerg and terran are OP lol
omnomnomnom
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 13 2010 12:57 GMT
#40
On April 13 2010 18:27 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote:
Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing


He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard

Good play by bobby either way.



I think he left because the game was over and leaving the game when you can't possibly come back is something that most people do.

I feel sorry for idra, he can't leave a game without people saying he "ragequit" or something
roemy
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany432 Posts
April 13 2010 13:06 GMT
#41
... until people start to burrow their roaches /o\
rock is fine.. paper could need a buff, but scissors have to be nerfed
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 13:11:48
April 13 2010 13:11 GMT
#42
Can't wait to see games with micro and macro like this. Looks like SC2 has some great potential entertainment factors.
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
April 13 2010 13:16 GMT
#43
People are so negative in this thread...
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
April 13 2010 13:17 GMT
#44
The Micro was effective - yes, but it's not that hard to outmicro IdrA's Army-composition with blink.

Most Z go for very fast Lair for Hydras anyways to counter Immortal-pushes, so I wouldn't recommend going 1-base Stalkers with Blink. Although they're okay to defend against Mutas when you are on two bases and they're decent on certain Maps, like Kulas ravine..
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 13:23:06
April 13 2010 13:18 GMT
#45
was hoping to see some actual micro, P wasn't even focus firing
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
April 13 2010 13:20 GMT
#46
On April 13 2010 21:57 faction123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 18:27 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 13 2010 18:25 Marradron wrote:
Idra just overdroned without knowing what his opponent was doing


He had the drone in for quite a while, unfortunately didn't see the fast citadel. But I think he left because that tactic really caught him offguard

Good play by bobby either way.



I think he left because the game was over and leaving the game when you can't possibly come back is something that most people do.

I feel sorry for idra, he can't leave a game without people saying he "ragequit" or something


Well yeah, but gm players would throw up a "gg" at least, and Idra is known for not doing much of that haha.

Anyways, I wonder why everyone is so negative in this thread. It was a good display of Stalker control, blinking units that virtually were about to die if left for a fraction of a second. It's not even like this was being overhyped or anything.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 13:24:01
April 13 2010 13:23 GMT
#47
On April 13 2010 18:07 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 18:05 Lemure wrote:
On April 13 2010 17:50 Black Octopi wrote:
On April 13 2010 17:26 Zoler wrote:
That was nothing special at all, it's what Yellow did 2 years ago.

yawn
How did he use blink 2 years ago?


I believe he means the stalker micro technique was shown quite a while back by Blizzard themselves.



I think he was talking about a player named Sonic who used that. IIRC hes a WC3 player but I could be mistaken. It was broadcasted by dustin browder and robert simpson.

It was SonKie vs Yellow showmatch at one of the previous Blizzcons where Yellow showed this exact micro technique.
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
April 13 2010 13:25 GMT
#48
Well it was fun to watch, but it felt more like W3 micro that SC micro, but maybe its just me. Other than that I think it was just bad panic management from Idra with throwing units away.
And the thing is, it was fun now, but will it be fun after a few years or will it be more like boring standard routine micro to maximize the use of stalkers? Both for players and fans.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 13 2010 13:25 GMT
#49
On April 13 2010 17:51 Mora wrote:
this video is fake

immortal is only counter to roaches~~

hahahah
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 13 2010 13:27 GMT
#50
Husky...

You should feel honored by some of those posts. You are apparently a very talented caster and you're sparking interest in people who have never even heard of the game:

For some reason I can't stop watching Husky and HD's casts, I even downloaded and setup the single player SCII just to give it a try, you know, that looks like fun I could do that. Oh wait I suck horribly and watching these videos is more fun than playing.


I just recently got SC1 and WC3 after watching maybe 5 hours of H to the Usky Husky and HD's commentary I really want to get into starcraft it looks like so much fun.

Moving around the map and keeping track of everything for a nub is fucking hard.

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
April 13 2010 14:17 GMT
#51
IdrA or not IdrA the p was incredible! I never make stalkers (in any mu) but..damn..that looks sooo sexy..
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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 14:19:56
April 13 2010 14:18 GMT
#52
On April 13 2010 22:18 PokePill wrote:
was hoping to see some actual micro, P wasn't even focus firing


Which replay have you seen man? the p was in fact focusing fire -.-

EDIT: i agree husky! it is a pleasure to hear you!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
haaduken
Profile Joined March 2010
United States41 Posts
April 13 2010 14:25 GMT
#53
Most interesting part is that this was pre-patch. I bet this is even more useful against roach/ling comp. Well done Bobby.
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
April 13 2010 14:28 GMT
#54
So:
Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)

Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro

Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 13 2010 14:37 GMT
#55
On April 13 2010 23:28 gogogadgetflow wrote:
So:
Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)

Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro

Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT.

Where's your manliness now?
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
April 13 2010 14:47 GMT
#56
I never GG unless its a game where I had imense pleasure playing even tho I lost,

when I lose for stupid reasons I ragequit =o
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
April 13 2010 14:53 GMT
#57
guees idra says nothing when he just gets outplayed
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
April 13 2010 14:58 GMT
#58
this is the first thing, aside from mothership rush, that i will try when i get my freaking computer to run that beta
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towerranger
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 15:03:44
April 13 2010 15:03 GMT
#59
this game was played on the eu server, you have like 1000ms from korea.
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
April 13 2010 15:08 GMT
#60
Really good use of blink, his micro really made the difference would have lost his stalker without it.
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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
April 13 2010 15:17 GMT
#61
yea i saw this rep a couple days ago, kinda wanted to make me play toss lol
Kylig
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden41 Posts
April 13 2010 15:28 GMT
#62
This really shows how OP protoss really are.

I mean come on we are so used of fighting a-clickers that when a Protoss actually doing some kind of micro.

MIND YOU HE WAS NOT FOCUS FIREING JUST BLINKING THE LOW HP which tbh I could do that.

Ofc great play, idra needs to scout better thats what SC2 is all about. Scouting and countering because no high ground atvantage you cannot defend if you read your opponent wrong.
ofc I am no pro and idra beat me 10/10 but then I havent played as many games as Idra did his first day of beta yet and I had it for almost a month.
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QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
April 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#63
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 13 2010 16:23 GMT
#64
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.
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Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
April 13 2010 16:34 GMT
#65
That was very good!
It's just a matter of time before people start controlling their units the way they're supposed to.
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Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
April 13 2010 16:36 GMT
#66
On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.


That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?
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Trapist
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada46 Posts
April 13 2010 16:41 GMT
#67
That is more of what this game needs
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
April 13 2010 16:41 GMT
#68
I love blink. That's all I ever do as protoss. Mass speedlings is really hard to stop though.
Kylig
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden41 Posts
April 13 2010 16:42 GMT
#69
On April 14 2010 01:36 Squallcloud wrote:
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On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.


That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?


Simply because its not needed. The zealot-sentry build requires practicly zero skill and same thing with immortal push.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 13 2010 16:55 GMT
#70
On April 14 2010 01:36 Squallcloud wrote:
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On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.


That may be so but why don't we see this more often then?


Because what he did was not as "easy" as Zoler is suggesting. Look at the stalkers HP and see how well he picked the weakest ones ONE AT A TIME.
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Alexc26
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom222 Posts
April 13 2010 17:03 GMT
#71
That was awesome micro by Drunkbobby, he defiantly deserved that win.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 13 2010 17:07 GMT
#72
That micro is not difficult to do when it's the only thing being done. Because he was all-in, that's all he could do is micro Stalkers and sometimes go W shift+S click click click. You could make a Flash game out of what he was doing and everyone could play it for an hour and come back saying "this is too easy."

I'm glad that the micro looks impressive and cool to the casual viewer. That is a huge plus for SC2. It's absolutely not a bad thing that micro looks more impressive than it actually is. The Stalker micro is a perfect counter-example to the people saying "battles in SC2 are too boring and it's not possible to tell what's going on."
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
April 13 2010 17:23 GMT
#73
On April 13 2010 23:37 lolaloc wrote:
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On April 13 2010 23:28 gogogadgetflow wrote:
So:
Protoss have super awesome and strong and engaging blink micro. (it sparkles)

Zerg have super awesome and strong and (less) engaging burrow micro

Terran have... reaper/maurader/helion kiting? LAME. maybe stim+run counts for something. maybe NOT.

Where's your manliness now?


I think we all know kiting is strong as hell and certainly doesnt make the terran unmanly. But because they dont glitter and go *poof* like the androgynous "cool kid" protoss or pop up and down like a plush toy diglett like the no-identity zerg, the Terrans are currently too brutish and straightforward for e-sports. I'm sure they will find a way to maintain the manliness while putting on a show - we'll just have to wait and see
whaTITdoz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States92 Posts
April 13 2010 17:31 GMT
#74
Ahh good ole blink micro. The stalker has definetly become more useful... I am still in between on the nerf or just leave alone. Maybe a little balance on the damage or amount of shields.
TheHof
Profile Joined March 2010
United States92 Posts
April 13 2010 17:46 GMT
#75
If you're no reddit, subscribe to /r/starcraft, there's lots of good stuff there. reddit.com/r/starcraft
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 13 2010 18:11 GMT
#76
ragequit
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 13 2010 19:43 GMT
#77
On April 14 2010 02:46 TheHof wrote:
If you're no reddit, subscribe to /r/starcraft, there's lots of good stuff there. reddit.com/r/starcraft

Reading those comments made me never want to become a part of reddit.
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Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 13 2010 20:11 GMT
#78
Stalker Micro w/ Blink = Spectators will be wowed.

How effective it is, I don't know; certainly better than non-Blink. How cool it is? For me, it's a 10 out of 10 :D
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 13 2010 20:49 GMT
#79
The best part about this is you know Idra probably sat there bitching about cheese, when he clearly got outplayed/microed BADLY.

Idra will never be the top SC2 player, though he will be very good, because smart players will know that they can throw him off with cheese and play with his head a bit, just like Nony did in TSL.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 13 2010 20:51 GMT
#80
On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.

Sure, you can do it. Can you do it while maintaining unit production at that warp-in pylon, while building in base, and while making sure to come back and blink out the damaged stalkers like this player did.
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
April 13 2010 23:09 GMT
#81
On April 14 2010 05:49 PanzerDragoon wrote:
The best part about this is you know Idra probably sat there bitching about cheese, when he clearly got outplayed/microed BADLY.

Idra will never be the top SC2 player, though he will be very good, because smart players will know that they can throw him off with cheese and play with his head a bit, just like Nony did in TSL.


Why assume anything at all? How do you (or anybody) know that he didn't go "wow, that was weird never saw that before guess i know what NOT to do from now on"?

Is it really necessary to post a new topic every time that somebody beats Idra and he doesn't GG. Who cares? Grow up.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 13 2010 23:11 GMT
#82
On April 14 2010 05:51 PanzerDragoon wrote:
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On April 14 2010 01:23 Zoler wrote:
On April 14 2010 01:22 QueueQueue wrote:
Incredible blink control. Oddly enough, I still don't see blink used all that often, even when my Protoss opponents have stalkers in the mix. It's just so strong, and in my opinion, can pay for itself very quickly.

On top of being useful in battle situations as highlighted in the video vs Idra, it can also be used effectively in harass situations as well.

Really strong ability.


Anyone could do that, that was nothing special at all. Just saying.

Sure, you can do it. Can you do it while maintaining unit production at that warp-in pylon, while building in base, and while making sure to come back and blink out the damaged stalkers like this player did.



Yes, because he wasn't building in base. He was just warping in and blinking out low HP stalkers. All he had to do was scroll his screen to the nearby pylon, hit w S S S and spam click, then move to the stalkers, click one on low hp, and hit B and click behind the pack. Even the worst WC3 players have been doing that for years. It looks impressive, and it's cool of him to come up with the idea, but it's not difficult to pull off thanks to health bars.
TelesisGQ
Profile Joined March 2009
United States83 Posts
April 13 2010 23:34 GMT
#83
Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 13 2010 23:45 GMT
#84
seen the rep right after the zotac cup finished, really nice play by bobby. naz tried it today against me on kulas, turns out mass speedlings into speed roaches own it.
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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 13 2010 23:58 GMT
#85
On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote:
Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.


90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old?
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 14 2010 00:03 GMT
#86
lol@the argument on cheese on the first page .
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 14 2010 00:53 GMT
#87
On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:
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On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote:
Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.


90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old?

on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg.
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MeruFM
Profile Joined February 2010
United States167 Posts
April 14 2010 01:46 GMT
#88
On April 14 2010 09:03 Newguy wrote:
lol@the argument on cheese on the first page .

lol @ arguments of everything else on the other pages.
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 14 2010 02:38 GMT
#89
On April 14 2010 09:53 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:
On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote:
Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.


90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old?

on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg.



Most people on US server don't, and this definitely wasn't a tourney. People need to just leave idra alone and stop assuming he has an aneurysm whenever he loses a game.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 14 2010 04:17 GMT
#90
On April 14 2010 11:38 faction123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 09:53 diehilde wrote:
On April 14 2010 08:58 faction123 wrote:
On April 14 2010 08:34 TelesisGQ wrote:
Why is Idra such an ass and doesn't gg before he quits? Acting like a whiny 8 year old is not cool, I don't care if he was pro in Korea.


90% of players don't gg when they leave games, how do you discern that he's a whiny 8 year old?

on eu server most ppl actually gg before they leave, even on ladder. in tourneys its really 90% or more who gg.



Most people on US server don't, and this definitely wasn't a tourney. People need to just leave idra alone and stop assuming he has an aneurysm whenever he loses a game.

im just saying, i dont care if idra ggs or doesnt. btw this was from zotac cup quarter finals, so yes, it was a tourney. Again, just saying.
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G4MR
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States371 Posts
April 14 2010 06:52 GMT
#91
Drunk Bobby is a fucking monster!
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ddk
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom38 Posts
April 14 2010 14:16 GMT
#92
I don't get why people whine about not saying gg in unofficial matches. grow up? It doesn't mean anything and when you are grinding games it would be tiresome to keep lying to the opponent when in actuality you don't believe it was a good game.

Only in a tournament do you owe your opponent the respect to say good game. That is because the tournament games are the accumulations of all of your practice. So stop using it as an excuse to bash Idra. I'm not defending him but the zealous hatred towards anything he does which is perceived BM is so childish.
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RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
April 14 2010 14:21 GMT
#93
Wouldnt really call this impressive micro, the only thing that would be impressive if is idra would actually be abble to beat this army, but stalkers much faster than roaches/zerglings and bigger range, don't have to be next bisu to click a few stalkers to the back, idra's army is handicapped vs this so simply not that impressive ;e

its like microing maradeurs with slow upgrade vs zealots/stalker or so, or to speak in wc3 terms dryads vs grunts or sorceress vs grunts etc, even though this was a bit harder, not really all that hard :D
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 16:54:45
April 14 2010 16:53 GMT
#94
192 000 views wow

I guess this makes statements about lings being too easy to use untrue. IdrA rushed and lost too many but at the same time only attacked the closest Stalkers instead of going for the most weakened.
I like how those Stalkers regain shields too
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MSrabbiT
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1 Post
May 22 2010 16:30 GMT
#95
Personally, I consider calling "gg" a responsibility because it contributes and maintains the best gaming community in the world. If you have come to love the manners of this community (whether it's unofficial, competitive, or just plain leisure, show your respect and call gg.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
May 22 2010 16:33 GMT
#96
On April 14 2010 23:21 RotterdaM wrote:
Wouldnt really call this impressive micro, the only thing that would be impressive if is idra would actually be abble to beat this army, but stalkers much faster than roaches/zerglings and bigger range, don't have to be next bisu to click a few stalkers to the back, idra's army is handicapped vs this so simply not that impressive ;e

its like microing maradeurs with slow upgrade vs zealots/stalker or so, or to speak in wc3 terms dryads vs grunts or sorceress vs grunts etc, even though this was a bit harder, not really all that hard :D


lol obviusly its harder as u need to keep alt on to see ur hp's (if u dont have "show always " hp") and u have to actually press b click not just click a click a.
Vexx
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 17:08:01
May 22 2010 17:07 GMT
#97
On May 23 2010 01:30 MSrabbiT wrote:
Personally, I consider calling "gg" a responsibility because it contributes and maintains the best gaming community in the world. If you have come to love the manners of this community (whether it's unofficial, competitive, or just plain leisure, show your respect and call gg.


Excellent first post. This is the best gaming community in the world. I love manners to. I also love necroing threads.

I think this is the end of our friendship MSrabbiT. I don't ever gl hf, I only gg if it was a gg and I hate forum necromancers.
I am not nice.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
May 22 2010 17:11 GMT
#98
On April 13 2010 20:42 SevenAteNine wrote:
Lmfao, and players like Orb think zerg and terran are OP lol

Because stalker blink micro is unbeatable strategy.
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