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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 27 2010 01:33 GMT
#61
people are kind of faggots arent you
your time is not that important. shit happens and it doesnt cost you anything to wait a minute or two.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 27 2010 01:34 GMT
#62
On March 27 2010 10:33 IdrA wrote:
people are kind of faggots arent you
your time is not that important. shit happens and it doesnt cost you anything to wait a minute or two.


pretty much
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2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
March 27 2010 01:35 GMT
#63
As stated before, without any explanations its usually an auto-unpause for me, if there's a reason, I'll usually wait 2-5min before unpausing, depending on the circumstance.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 01:42:12
March 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#64
On March 27 2010 10:33 IdrA wrote:
people are kind of faggots arent you
your time is not that important. shit happens and it doesnt cost you anything to wait a minute or two.


Just like it doesnt cost you anything to leave a ladder game when you can't actually play, instead of pausing.
fams
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada731 Posts
March 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#65
Personally, this is my ruling:

- Say something before you pause to give fair warning it is happening. I remember in some Wc3 leagues you would get penalty points or lose the map if you paused without warning.

- Give a reasonable time, no higher than 5 minutes.

- If the person asks for a pause, give no higher than 5 minutes.

It is battle.net though, and people will do as they please. But that is what I would do.
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Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 27 2010 01:41 GMT
#66
Whether you accept an excuse for pausing or not is your own business, but saying you'll let someone pause for a while and then unpausing is always bad form.
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 27 2010 01:46 GMT
#67
In fact, I think pause contracts would be a good feature: when one player pauses, the other one can surrender the ability to unpause until a timer runs out.
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AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 27 2010 02:02 GMT
#68
On March 27 2010 10:33 IdrA wrote:
people are kind of faggots arent you
your time is not that important. shit happens and it doesnt cost you anything to wait a minute or two.


sorry that just makes no sense for me. so my time is not important but his conversation on the phone is? dont forget time is one of the things you cant buy or get back, every second is a lost second. it may sounds stupid but its so damn true.
if i am able to call people back i can think other people who join games can do the same. there are not really many reasons to pause a game. open a door is like 10 secs and as i wrote before, if he writes "sec" and opens the door in a minute im waiting without a problem. can you explain me some of this situation "that happen" and need more than 1min to get fixed?

seriously you are progamer and training with progamers you use 12? hours a day to train and some people even train in their freetime and now you are telling me that time is not important? some people have only 30min to 60min time to play games and they want to use this time and dont want to wait 10mins for people who join games and pause 3mins after start.

i really dont get it. yes sometimes i pause games for 20 secs in laddergames and then i write "sec plz" and it was only one time where i knew it would take longer than a minute to fix the problem and that was during my time in the army and guess what i did. i wrote "sry" and left.
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Socke
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany451 Posts
March 27 2010 02:06 GMT
#69
so you really dont think its a waste of time stomping an enemy who isnt defending himself?
mb you should give your beta key away (if u got one), and go play offline vs comp? :[

Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 27 2010 02:11 GMT
#70
On March 27 2010 11:02 MeProU_Kor wrote:
i really dont get it. yes sometimes i pause games for 20 secs in laddergames and then i write "sec plz" and it was only one time where i knew it would take longer than a minute to fix the problem and that was during my time in the army and guess what i did. i wrote "sry" and left.

This is totally off topic, but it just struck me as funny that the player base never applies their highly-developed APM to typing whole words.
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
March 27 2010 02:13 GMT
#71
You are all bitches. Why, you might ask? Because the ONLY reason you set yourself these "guidelines", is to have an excuse to unpause. "Sorry bro, you spent your 31 seconds, I'll unpause". It's pretty damn arbitrary. Do you have to be somewhere?! is a 1 minute pause going to kill you? Enjoy some music in the meanwhile, you've got spotify don't you? God damn you people.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 02:14:36
March 27 2010 02:13 GMT
#72
On March 27 2010 11:06 Socke wrote:
so you really dont think its a waste of time stomping an enemy who isnt defending himself?
mb you should give your beta key away (if u got one), and go play offline vs comp? :[

actually we want to play the game so much that we dont accept pause.
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super_toast
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States269 Posts
March 27 2010 02:16 GMT
#73
On March 27 2010 10:33 IdrA wrote:
people are kind of faggots arent you
your time is not that important. shit happens and it doesnt cost you anything to wait a minute or two.

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AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 02:37:12
March 27 2010 02:17 GMT
#74
On March 27 2010 11:06 Socke wrote:
so you really dont think its a waste of time stomping an enemy who isnt defending himself?
mb you should give your beta key away (if u got one), and go play offline vs comp? :[



you dont get it.
one example:
just dont join a game if you know your mother will call you for meal and you are like 14 years old.
other example:
dont go on that stupid mobile(phone) during a game.
yes for sure its a waste of time (since u invest some time), but it would be more waste to wait if you 1) dont know how long it will take 2) it would take more than 2min 3)if he said a time and that timecount is over and the game just started or is going for 5mins.
damn i waited 20min for a korean on iccup in a TvT that was going for like 50mins because the game was epic and that guy was mannered the whole game and directly told me "T_T can wait 20min?". i dont care stats or points but im not willed to waste my time for every idiot that isnt able to organize his life.

edit
yes i forgot the best is sometimes you wait for these kids and guess what they do, they just unpause without typing anyshit. thats like saying "wow you stupid geek have to wait for me minutes and i know you are so stupid and sitting in front of the PC just waiting for me that i unpause and even if you dont sit the whole time in front of the PC im just gonna use it to my advantage."

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TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
March 27 2010 02:19 GMT
#75
I play SC to have fun. Crushing AFK players ain't fun.

I typically wait a reasonable amount of time then resume.

To greedy asshats rofloling easy wins. Realize you float up-or-down to your ladder rank according to skill level. If you're trash, you're still gonna sink to the bottom.
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TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
March 27 2010 02:24 GMT
#76
On March 27 2010 11:17 MeProU_Kor wrote:
dont go on that stupid mobile(phone) during a game..


Some have jobs or own small businesses requiring they be on call 24/7. If I'm very close to completing an important deal and the client calls me Friday 9pm I cannot just ignore them.
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
March 27 2010 02:24 GMT
#77
Who cares really in a beta where it is worth only 1 game. This isn't like you lose your league if you quit. Do the right thing and leave the game if you have to leave. Hell, one game I just finished splitting my SCVs when I heard I had to go so I gg'ed and left. It's no big deal really.
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cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
March 27 2010 02:25 GMT
#78
On March 27 2010 11:17 MeProU_Kor wrote:
you dont get it.
one example:
just dont join a game if you know your mother will call you for meal and you are like 14 years old.
other example:
dont go on that stupid mobile(phone) during a game.
yes for sure its a waste of time (since u invest some time), but it would be more waste to wait if you 1) dont know how long it will take 2) it would take more than 2min 3)if he said a time and that timecount is over and the game just started or is going for 5mins.
damn i waited 20min for a korean on iccup in a TvT that was going for like 50mins because the game was epic and that guy was mannered the whole game and directly told me "T_T can wait 20min?". i dont care stats or points but im not willed to waste my time for every idiot that isnt able to organize his life.

Are you talking to someone? You aren't making it clear who you refer to.

Also the fallacy in your post is that you say that as if those are the only 2 examples possible. There are many things that can happen, problems can occur in somebody's life that do not include a phone. I wouldn't be surprised if many people here would agree that wasting time to pause the game and chat on the phone would be very disruptive and would warrant a quick unpause.

There are times where you should allow a short pause for purpose of being courteous, and times where you can ignore it and be justified in doing so.
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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-27 02:33:10
March 27 2010 02:32 GMT
#79
On March 27 2010 11:24 TossFloss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 11:17 MeProU_Kor wrote:
dont go on that stupid mobile(phone) during a game..


Some have jobs or own small businesses requiring they be on call 24/7. If I'm very close to completing an important deal and the client calls me Friday 9pm I cannot just ignore them.

pretend you are taking a shit in that moment or taking a shower so you cant reach the phone.

if you have matters that are more important to you than sc then please go through with it and just leave the game when one of those matters arises or dont complain and accept your own priorities.
once you start a game it should be agreed by both players that at that moment your priority is the game. if it isnt then whats there for you to complain about?
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
March 27 2010 02:32 GMT
#80
On March 27 2010 09:14 enzym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2010 08:51 Socke wrote:
to whoever unpauses or cant wait 30s..
dont you think thats a waste of time?
i play sc2 to have games against ppl, and if i unpause 10 minutes into a 20 minute game i actually end up wasting 10 minutes by ruining my game.
not waiting for absurdly long pauses i can understand.

you just defeated your own argument yourself. if you are playing sc2 to have games against people then have games against fucking people instead of going afk.
i dont grant anyone pause ever, except for event matches like cws/tourneys or against people i know.

the instant you click the search match button you devote yourself to finishing that ladder game, just as your opponent does. people trust that their opponent is there to play the game, not to go afk.

i find it hilarious that there are actually people in this thread that think it is bm to unpause a game, when theyre the ones attempting to steal other peoples time.


Trying seeing where that attitude takes you in life. Or maybe you'll have the pleasure of dealing with someone taking that attitude with you. And it won't be pleasant.

People commit themselves to many things, but not everything always goes to plan. I would like to see you never try to take a day off work (for which you have signed into legally binding commitments) when you need to attend to family commitments. Or maybe you will try, and your boss will take your attitude and fire you.

As Idra said, stop being an ass about it. Being an ass doesn't help anyone.
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