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[Q] Mules on gold mineral patches

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Bigpon86
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States238 Posts
March 02 2010 23:37 GMT
#1
Do mules mine more on golden mineral patches?? If so, do you think a viable strat would be to save up energy on a couple of orbital commands and then expand at a gold minerals and then call down like 5-6 mules instantly when it finishes?
This is my quote.
Ruthless
Profile Joined August 2008
United States492 Posts
March 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#2
I thought mules only gathered faster because they could gather while another worker was gathering. Maybe I am wrong on this?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-02 23:47:48
March 02 2010 23:47 GMT
#3
most golden mineral expands are very vulnerable, so it would be a huge risk to take to save mana for that..

and also I don't even know if they mine more haha never tried it
Bigpon86
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States238 Posts
March 02 2010 23:50 GMT
#4
On March 03 2010 08:47 Fayth wrote:
most golden mineral expands are very vulnerable, so it would be a huge risk to take to save mana for that..

and also I don't even know if they mine more haha never tried it



well, even just taking it as a first expo and saving to 200/200 on your main. If you gain the bonus minerals from gold patches it would more than pay for itself after even just the 1st round of mules I would think.
This is my quote.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
March 02 2010 23:52 GMT
#5
Yeah you need to be able to fly a CC over there and then defend it for at least 100 game seconds. You would also need a ton of gas to make that much mineral useful in such a short amount of time.
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 02 2010 23:56 GMT
#6
No offense buddy, I really don't think it's viable at all, you're free to try it when you get to play (if you don't already)
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 02 2010 23:59 GMT
#7
I've seen a lot of games where a player holds on to a high yield expansion for a long time. I don't think the OP is talking about it being the 1st expansion so I don't see why this wouldn't work.
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Bigpon86
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States238 Posts
March 02 2010 23:59 GMT
#8
On March 03 2010 08:56 Fayth wrote:
No offense buddy, I really don't think it's viable at all, you're free to try it when you get to play (if you don't already)

I wasn't trying to sound defensive. I haven't even played the game. I'm just thinking out loud here. If you say it doesn't work I suppose I can take your word for it. However, I am still curious if the mule shares the gold minerals bonus the the scv gets.
This is my quote.
Gaspa79
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina5 Posts
March 03 2010 01:30 GMT
#9
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
March 03 2010 01:32 GMT
#10
On March 03 2010 10:30 Gaspa79 wrote:
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.

mule dont stack with mule tho
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 01:34:12
March 03 2010 01:33 GMT
#11
On March 03 2010 10:30 Gaspa79 wrote:
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.


The unknown factor is whether Mules mine 30 per trip from both normal and hi-yield minerals or if they mine more than 30 at a hi-yield.

I think mules should be able to get gas, but that would be broken :>

On March 03 2010 10:32 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 10:30 Gaspa79 wrote:
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.

mule dont stack with mule tho


But 2 or 3 Mules can work 1 patch without getting in each other's way, just like SCVs.
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
March 03 2010 01:36 GMT
#12
Mules definitely get more from high-yield patches than normal ones, CharlieMurphy did testing on this and found the high yield give around 370 full trip while the normals give in the high 200's.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 01:37:23
March 03 2010 01:37 GMT
#13
mules do 30 on blue, 42 on yellow, works out to 270 on blue over 9 trips and 378 on yellow.

credit where credit is due, charliemurphy figured that one out

edit beaten by sith >.>
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 01:39:10
March 03 2010 01:38 GMT
#14
On March 03 2010 08:41 _rdm_ wrote:
I thought mules only gathered faster because they could gather while another worker was gathering. Maybe I am wrong on this?

they bring in 30 minerals per trip IIRC (on regular minerals). Don't know what they do on gold

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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
March 03 2010 01:44 GMT
#15
On March 03 2010 10:32 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2010 10:30 Gaspa79 wrote:
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.

mule dont stack with mule tho


they don't stack, but they can mine the same mineral, as long as they can find a way to fit around it.
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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
March 03 2010 01:49 GMT
#16
I think this is viable in a less drastic fashion. Like if you are planning to take a gold expansion anyways, then maybe you skip a MULE round at your other bases.

Letting your energy build up to a high level probably isn't good in any circumstance - (1) you're essentially several mules down for a long period of time, leaving you open to attack, (2) if you are able to withstand this time period, you'd be better off using the mules and building more orbital commands in the first place.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 03 2010 01:51 GMT
#17
mules mine 6x faster than an scv
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 03 2010 02:00 GMT
#18
slightly on topic, had a crazy game the other day where at the start of the game a terran lifted off and landed on a high yield and proceeded to make 6rax and pump marines, surprised the hell out of me when at the 7min mark he comes to my expan with literally 35+ marines
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 02:53:17
March 03 2010 02:26 GMT
#19



thread owned?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 03 2010 02:31 GMT
#20
also
On March 03 2010 10:30 Gaspa79 wrote:
Mules mine way faster than normal scvs, and APART from that, they can also mine while other scv or whatever is mining.

On March 03 2010 10:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
mules mine 6x faster than an scv


you guys are both wrong, MULEs actually take longer per trip mining than an SCV but they gain so much more per trip, so it seems faster. Or maybe you're just wording it bad.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 03 2010 02:45 GMT
#21
MULEs carry 6 times more resources than a SCV for minerals.
MULEs have a mining time 2.05x greater than SCVs.

Same movement speed and acceleration.
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 03 2010 09:57 GMT
#22
On March 03 2010 10:37 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
mules do 30 on blue, 42 on yellow, works out to 270 on blue over 9 trips and 378 on yellow.

credit where credit is due, charliemurphy figured that one out

edit beaten by sith >.>


It's pretty funny how you both remember CharlieMurphy figuring it out, when he was in fact asking for these in his thread.
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member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
March 03 2010 20:36 GMT
#23
I think they bring 48 from yellow minerals.
I also think they gather minerals at the same speed as SCV's.
madsweepslol
Profile Joined February 2010
161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-03 20:57:27
March 03 2010 20:56 GMT
#24
On March 03 2010 11:26 CharlieMurphy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEjepIpC7rU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fXtSr0y8aQ

thread owned?

interesting

you have good taste in music (if those are your vids)
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