Interviews: Louder, Chill, PsyonicReaver - Page 3

On February 25 2010 13:07 BlackYoshi wrote:
I think it's pretty silly to talk about how "the game is already in trouble" when its in the first waves of a beta and still months away from release (and probably years from a true, final balance)

On February 25 2010 13:08 dronebabo wrote:
only by talking about the beta will change ever be made rofl

On February 25 2010 11:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There is so little difference possible between two players when they're attacking each other that the games just play out as build order vs build order..

On February 25 2010 13:41 Jimmeh wrote:


I don't get arguments like this. Sure they auto-surround now, that's fine. Do units auto retreat when they're about to die? Do dropships automatically pick up units that are about to be hit then redrop them? Etc. There's still so much micro possible it's not just 1a2a3a.

(I'm not in the beta, just commenting on what I've seen. Warcraft 3 had autosurround too but I'm sure you wouldn't argue that isn't just BO vs BO since micro plays a huge role in that game)

On February 25 2010 13:33 mishimaBeef wrote:
I have to agree with BlackYoshi.

Guys don't forget that the people at Blizzard have feelings too. How would you feel if you tried so hard to please the fans and it's just never good enough. Kind of demotivating if you ask me.

I'm not saying we shouldn't voice our concerns. But I feel we should not claim to see years down the road about how the game will be a failure. Give it a chance, cut Blizzard some slack, lets keep it positive and constructive. It's a fine line. Let's find our balance.

On February 25 2010 11:21 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I agree with Louder on all accounts about the Beta. If they keep the micro the way it is right now the game isn't going to be as good as it can be. It's crucial to the success of e-sports that they fix this so that we can go back to being in awe over moves/micro done by top players. There is so little difference possible between two players when they're attacking each other that the games just play out as build order vs build order. Once you're ahead it's really hard to give away your advantage because even if your units get caught off guard they will still do the right thing in battle. Zergling surround and worker micro is something that was so important to the early game of BW that decided games based on how you performed it. That element is completely gone now. If you have enough Zerglings you'll just kill your opponent almost regardless of what he does.


At the same time I have some doubts Blizzard will do anything about it because they have very consciously made the choice that they wanted noobs to be competent at it so that 99.9% of the non-pro population buys the game.

On February 25 2010 15:18 Ruken wrote:



Yeah and still you have big gaming sites like GiantBomb saying, in their most recent podcast, that Blizzard is basically giving a big 'fuck you' too all other RTS game makers that are trying to be innovative by allegedly making a carbon copy of StarCraft 1.

http://www.giantbomb.com/podcast/
Starts at about 18:45 and they talk about it quite a bit. Really good to listen to if you want to know a bit about what the non-TL community thinks of SC2.

On February 25 2010 13:33 mishimaBeef wrote:
I have to agree with BlackYoshi.

Guys don't forget that the people at Blizzard have feelings too. How would you feel if you tried so hard to please the fans and it's just never good enough. Kind of demotivating if you ask me.

I'm not saying we shouldn't voice our concerns. But I feel we should not claim to see years down the road about how the game will be a failure. Give it a chance, cut Blizzard some slack, lets keep it positive and constructive. It's a fine line. Let's find our balance.

On February 25 2010 15:45 keepITup wrote:


western game critics are going to hate starcraft 2 because they've been playing CnC, Halo Wars, and other shit that is considered "amazing" because of all the special effects and flashy features.

gaming journalism follows trends, it's really quite pathetic.

On February 25 2010 16:30 ShaperofDreams wrote:
It's like a really hot girl who sucks in bed and has no personality.